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Old 02-06-2013, 01:52 PM
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I don't know how much merit this has but a friend posted it on FB and I thought it sounded pretty good so I'm sharing...

Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont's own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.
Maslack recently proposed a bill to register "non-gun-owners" and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun.
... Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as 'a clear mandate to do so'. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals.
Vermont's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent.." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."
Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says.
Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state .... it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit.
This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.
" America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." This makes sense!
There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns. Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way. Sounds reasonable to me! Non-gun owners require more police to protect them and this fee should go to paying for their defense!
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:02 PM
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Sounds like a chain email but even if it isn't, its just a proposal. Gotta pass several steps before it becomes law. The Feinstein bill everyone keeps posting is the same way. There are crazy nut jobs in the house and senate that come up with crazy bills but they don't make it out the house usually.

just read it - this is a state representative, and this would just be for Vermont, no worries.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:18 PM
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Sounds like a chain email but even if it isn't, its just a proposal. Gotta pass several steps before it becomes law. The Feinstein bill everyone keeps posting is the same way. There are crazy nut jobs in the house and senate that come up with crazy bills but they don't make it out the house usually.

just read it - this is a state representative, and this would just be for Vermont, no worries.
I'm not worried about it... I'm thinking someone in our state legislature needs to introduce a bill just like this... Sounds GREAT to me!
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:35 PM
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I'm not worried about it... I'm thinking someone in our state legislature needs to introduce a bill just like this... Sounds GREAT to me!
me too, I didn't read the whole thing
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:32 PM
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This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.
" America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." This makes sense!
There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns. Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way. Sounds reasonable to me! Non-gun owners require more police to protect them and this fee should go to paying for their defense!

This sentence sums up how about 1/2 the country feels since the election. We are sitting on a powder keg in this country.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:38 PM
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I would vote for this if it came up
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You have my vote
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:06 PM
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me too, I didn't read the whole thing
Well we don't really know what is in it we need to pass it to find out (Pelosi method)
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:23 PM
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Well we don't really know what is in it we need to pass it to find out (Pelosi method)
That is funny and sad at the same time

We are finding out what was in it alright
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