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Old 02-28-2016, 01:19 PM
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Viable as in having the mainstream support of news channels and publicity?

No.

But he stands for more of my beliefs and my way of thinking. Just read about what the man did as governor of New Mexico.

Hundreds of thousands of American men and women didn't give their lives to secure my freedom vote for me to pick between the lesser of two evils. It would dishonor them if I DIDN'T vote for what I believe in, regardless of what kind of publicity the candidate receives.

Well said! I totally agree and Gary Johnson might be getting my vote also.
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Viable as in having the mainstream support of news channels and publicity?

No.

But he stands for more of my beliefs and my way of thinking. Just read about what the man did as governor of New Mexico.

Hundreds of thousands of American men and women didn't give their lives to secure my freedom vote for me to pick between the lesser of two evils. It would dishonor them if I DIDN'T vote for what I believe in, regardless of what kind of publicity the candidate receives.
Viable as in does he have a snowballs chance in hell, no disrespect meant, but no different than writing in Alfred E. Neuman

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Old 03-11-2016, 04:43 AM
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Viable as in does he have a snowballs chance in hell, no disrespect meant, but no different than writing in Alfred E. Neuman
Who cares? You gonna vote for someone you don't agree with just because they are "viable"?
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:07 AM
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Who cares? You gonna vote for someone you don't agree with just because they are "viable"?
I hate to say it but yes... If we don't unite behind the republican candidate we will end up with Hillary. A vote for a third party candidate is at best a no-vote and at worst a vote for Hillary or Bernie. And sitting home and not voting is just as bad.
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It's defense mode at this point, America will never be the same if we see Hillary or Bernie in office.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:07 AM
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It's defense mode at this point, America will never be the same if we see Hillary or Bernie in office.
Totally agree!!!!!!
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It's defense mode at this point, America will never be the same if we see Hillary or Bernie in office.
I hate to say it but our next President will be either Bernie or Clinton.
What I see happening is Trump will get the Republican nomination. They will have a strong Independent candidate run in the election and the republican votes will be split between Trump and the independent giving the Democratic party candidate the majority vote. There are just to many people who will not vote for Trump.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:34 AM
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IF a Dem gets in don't be fooled, a Leftist Supreme court judge will be put in, and we all know whats next

THEY WILL COME FOR OUR GUNS!!

So yes it is a vote to keep a DEM OUT
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:57 AM
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Trump and Cruz are gonna split the ticket. The establishment will then choose Mitt Romney to run. Republicans get real mad and boycott the party. Hillary gets elected. Dems rule for a long time. We turn into socialists
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Old 03-11-2016, 10:25 AM
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I am a Trump supporter, and have been from the beginning.

BUT... At the end of the day, we really need to get everyone together and put our issues aside and back the republican nominee.

This is the point we need to get across to everyone and soon, or else we will have a criminal in the white house.
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I am a Trump supporter, and have been from the beginning.

BUT... At the end of the day, we really need to get everyone together and put our issues aside and back the republican nominee.

This is the point we need to get across to everyone and soon, or else we will have a criminal in the white house.
How is she still able to run and not in jail yet?

this country is so far up its own *** it is unreal. we are more worried what Kanye and the Kardashians are doing. our young people have no clue.

i must admit that i do not know alot but i am learning. i am trying to get engaged and learn so i can do and vote for what is best for me, my family, and my country. but the more i try and read and watch the news the more i cant stop my head from spinning.

but to sit and watch these presidential debates and listen to candidates argue about the size of each others hands is just ridiculous.

why cant we vote for Capt. Higgins for President?
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:03 AM
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Trump and Cruz are gonna split the ticket. The establishment will then choose Mitt Romney to run. Republicans get real mad and boycott the party. Hillary gets elected. Dems rule for a long time. We turn into socialists

This is what Im afraid of, splitting the vote. HELLary has already floated the idea of following Australia's "Voluntary" gun confiscation.
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:16 AM
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This is what Im afraid of, splitting the vote. HELLary has already floated the idea of following Australia's "Voluntary" gun confiscation.
If Trump has more votes/electorates than anyone other Republican candidate but does not come out a clear winner and the party chooses someone else, that will be the beginning of the end of the Republican Party. Some think Trump is a wolf in sheep's clothing and is out to do this anyway, but I dont know
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When you OUTLAW guns, only the OUTLAWS will have guns


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Fairfax, Va.— Hillary Clinton said at a New Hampshire Town Hall today that gun confiscation is something “worth looking at.” Discussing the firearms confiscation program in Australia, Clinton admitted she would consider implementing such a system in America.
A voter asked, “Recently, Australia managed to get away, or take away tens of thousands, millions, of handguns. In one year, they were all gone. Can we do that? If we can’t, why can’t we?”
Mrs. Clinton responded by describing Australia’s program, and then said, “I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level, if that could be arranged.”

Clinton stated her belief that the Supreme Court wrongly held that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to self-defense. In her own words: “…the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment. And I am going to make that case every chance I get.”




A Libtard supreme justice benched by her would do it

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When you OUTLAW guns, only the OUTLAWS will have guns


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Fairfax, Va.— Hillary Clinton said at a New Hampshire Town Hall today that gun confiscation is something “worth looking at.” Discussing the firearms confiscation program in Australia, Clinton admitted she would consider implementing such a system in America.
A voter asked, “Recently, Australia managed to get away, or take away tens of thousands, millions, of handguns. In one year, they were all gone. Can we do that? If we can’t, why can’t we?”
Mrs. Clinton responded by describing Australia’s program, and then said, “I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level, if that could be arranged.”

Clinton stated her belief that the Supreme Court wrongly held that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to self-defense. In her own words: “…the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment. And I am going to make that case every chance I get.”




A Libtard supreme justice benched by her would do it

She's disgusting.
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:16 PM
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I hate to say it but yes... If we don't unite behind the republican candidate we will end up with Hillary. A vote for a third party candidate is at best a no-vote and at worst a vote for Hillary or Bernie. And sitting home and not voting is just as bad.
"At best a no-vote"

See, that's where the problem is. Everyone claims to be tired of the way things are ran, but STILL vote for the same thing every election. No one wants to step out and back their claims up with their votes. At least I'll be voting for the change that I know needs to happen, not just voting along party lines for who is "viable". The Libertarian party would be viable if people realized how much it gets government out of the way and saves money while doing so.

Until more people grow the balls to not vote red or blue, This same conversation will happen every election at the local, state, and federal levels.
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"At best a no-vote"

See, that's where the problem is. Everyone claims to be tired of the way things are ran, but STILL vote for the same thing every election. No one wants to step out and back their claims up with their votes. At least I'll be voting for the change that I know needs to happen, not just voting along party lines for who is "viable". The Libertarian party would be viable if people realized how much it gets government out of the way and saves money while doing so.

Until more people grow the balls to not vote red or blue, This same conversation will happen every election at the local, state, and federal levels.

Show me a third party candidate that actually has a chance to win and I'll vote for them. Today it's more important for me to cast a vote that helps keep a democrat out of the White House. I don't like voting that way but it's the reality for now.

If there was ever a non establishment type that had a real chance to be President, its Trump. I don't agree with everything he say's but he is far from being apart of the establishment.
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Old 03-11-2016, 01:15 PM
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If Trump has more votes/electorates than anyone other Republican candidate but does not come out a clear winner and the party chooses someone else, that will be the beginning of the end of the Republican Party. Some think Trump is a wolf in sheep's clothing and is out to do this anyway, but I dont know
from to way I look at Trump and how this entire fiasco is going down... The republican party is doing everything it can not to nominate him as the Republican nominee, and what should be happening is that they should let math do its part and who ever wins, the republican party MUST stand behind that person.

Trump is looking at this way (my opinion).
If the republican party wants to be shady and look for ways to screw him over, then he has no issues running as a 3rd party. This is the card he is playing to get what he rightfully is winning right now. You and I know this is not a good idea to run as a 3rd party, and to be honest... Trump knows this as well. Everyone must remember that he is a business man and has been in these situations many time before where he has had to make it very clear to other parties involved that he is the only choice if they want to be successful.
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Old 03-11-2016, 02:06 PM
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Show me a third party candidate that actually has a chance to win and I'll vote for them. Today it's more important for me to cast a vote that helps keep a democrat out of the White House. I don't like voting that way but it's the reality for now.

If there was ever a non establishment type that had a real chance to be President, its Trump. I don't agree with everything he say's but he is far from being apart of the establishment.
Devil's advocate here - We also get real tired of people that will vote Dem no matter what, but some of us all do exactly the same thing by voting a Republican just to keep the Dem out.

If you don't like voting for the lesser of two evils, vote libertarian. If more people did, you would really see change, and not change that is talked about. The majority of Republicans are no longer true Conservatives. They like to think they are but look at the voting records and the increases in government spending they are partly responsible for. They say one thing and do another.

"The right wing and the left wing are all part of the same bird"
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from to way I look at Trump and how this entire fiasco is going down... The republican party is doing everything it can not to nominate him as the Republican nominee, and what should be happening is that they should let math do its part and who ever wins, the republican party MUST stand behind that person.

Trump is looking at this way (my opinion).
If the republican party wants to be shady and look for ways to screw him over, then he has no issues running as a 3rd party. This is the card he is playing to get what he rightfully is winning right now. You and I know this is not a good idea to run as a 3rd party, and to be honest... Trump knows this as well. Everyone must remember that he is a business man and has been in these situations many time before where he has had to make it very clear to other parties involved that he is the only choice if they want to be successful.
Yep, Trump vowed not to run third party, but IF he wins the most votes and doesnt get the nominee he should definitely run 3rd party just to spite the party. If that happens, a ton of Republicans will get angry with the Republican Party for not nominating him and its a downward spiral from there
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