What Would You Do?

[duckman1911]

To start my 15 year old boy is a level headed, sharp yound man. That being said.
He is taking a spanish class (required course) and his teacher wants the class to say the Pledge of Alliegence in spanish. He told the teacher he wouldnt do it. I agree with him 100%. I told him he was more than welcome to make a zero on that assignment. He's a free thinker and we encourage that within reason. Im proud of him for standing his ground and refusing to say the Pledge in a foreign language. I understand the merits of the class but the Pledge is sacred ground IMO.

[Bdub]

Wouldn't he only need to say the pledge of allegiance in America?

[wishin i was fishin]

The language in the US is English. You and he made the right choice.

[kibb]

I don't know about making an English speaking natural born citizen sing it in Spanish, but an legalized immigrant singing it in their native tongue may not be a problem. If they don't speak any language other than their native language I would be glad they are paying homage to the country. Don't forget our ancestors were all immigrants in the beginning.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Bdub

Wouldn't he only need to say the pledge of allegiance in America?

Exactly my thoughts. Unfortunatly we will soon be a predominate spanish country if the flood gates arent closed. Between the mexicans and the muslims sheet is gettin real in a hurry.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by kibb

I don't know about making an English speaking natural born citizen sing it in Spanish, but an legalized immigrant singing it in their native tongue may not be a problem. If they don't speak any language other than their native language I would be glad they are paying homage to the country. Don't forget our ancestors were all immigrants in the beginning.

Point taken and I realize that. Asking an English speaking American to recite the pledge in a foreign language is too much though. IMO

[kibb]

Yeah it is. I know that wasn't the question, but was just adding that because even though illegals need to be sent back citizenized ones do get some hate. I figured sooner or later the thread may turn that way.

[Vermillionaire]

Did you know the USA has no official language? It's awesome that he's standing up for something, but I don't see it as unpatriotic.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by kibb

Yeah it is. I know that wasn't the question, but was just adding that because even though illegals need to be sent back citizenized ones do get some hate. I figured sooner or later the thread may turn that way.

Wasnt trying to dog you so I hope it didnt come across that way. I have a good friend that was an Hungarian Olypian and now is an American citizen and even a Sherrifs deputy for our parish. People doing it right have all of my support.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Vermillionaire

Did you know the USA has no official language? It's awesome that he's standing up for something, but I don't see it as unpatriotic.

The last sentence is a joke right? It is very sad that we do not have english as our official language. We have a bunch of pu??y politicians to thank for that.

[Vermillionaire]

It wasn't. In French class we were required to say the pledge in French. Also, had to learn prayers in French.

[kibb]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Wasnt trying to dog you so I hope it didnt come across that way. I have a good friend that was an Hungarian Olypian and now is an American citizen and even a Sherrifs deputy for our parish. People doing it right have all of my support.

No offense taken.

[drinkmoremilk]

I think that being required to learn to pledge of allegiance in another language may lead young people to think about the actual words being said. May not be a bad idea. Saying the pledge an additional time in a day(in english in the morning and in spanish later in class) doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. I don't see what is unpatriotic about the exercise. I do wish less spanish and more french was taught in south louisiana though with the rich history that we have.

[Vermillionaire]

Originally Posted by drinkmoremilk

I think that being required to learn to pledge of allegiance in another language may lead young people to think about the actual words being said. May not be a bad idea. Saying the pledge an additional time in a day(in english in the morning and in spanish later in class) doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. I don't see what is unpatriotic about the exercise. I do wish less spanish and more french was taught in south louisiana though with the rich history that we have.

Agreed. My grandparents spoke French and my friends grandparents spoke German, but neither of us can. I think it's a shame

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by drinkmoremilk

I think that being required to learn to pledge of allegiance in another language may lead young people to think about the actual words being said. May not be a bad idea. Saying the pledge an additional time in a day(in english in the morning and in spanish later in class) doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. I don't see what is unpatriotic about the exercise. I do wish less spanish and more french was taught in south louisiana though with the rich history that we have.

I would much rather he be learing french. Still not sure how I would feel about the pledge in french. I love and admire the heritage of our state so dont get me wrong. If we had (I think we should) a state pledge I think it should be spoken in cajun french. John

[duckman1911]

Valid points by everyone. If you arent willing to change your views based on new info you are wasting your life.

[saodma]

Well as a vet that has been in combat i see no issue with them saying it. I also support your and his right to refuse to say it in spanish. This is a personal choice and there is no right or wrong answer.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by saodma

Well as a vet that has been in combat i see no issue with them saying it. I also support your and his right to refuse to say it in spanish. This is a personal choice and there is no right or wrong answer.

Thank you for your service. No matter what our opinion we owe it to people like you. Thank you sir and God Bless you and your family. John

[pricecb]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

The last sentence is a joke right? It is very sad that we do not have english as our official language. We have a bunch of pu??y politicians to thank for that.

The reason no official language is to keep the country as free as possible. 200+ years ago we had English, French, German, Dutch, Spanish (who at one time owned our little area known as Louisiana today) and many other settlements across the country.

I think the problem here is we associate this with our illegal immigration problems in this country. Language or an official language isn't the issue and personally I wouldn't support an official language. The last thing we need are more laws. We just need to enforce the ones on the books now and build a wall in the southern part of the country.

But our polititicians have no kahunas and are scared to be called cruel or bigets.

If your son is doing it for what he believes to be an attempt in the school to make a political statement then I say let him do it but I would check his grade in the class first. If he has bad grade then you might want to deal with it a different way.

[Msucowpoke51]

I agree that there is no right or wrong answer IMO ... I think it's good for your son to take a stand on his beliefs as long as he's doing it for the right reasons, some kids would do it just for the attention and to look like a rebel (I don't at all think this is the case here) and that's not right, but it seems like he's doing it for the right reasons so good for him!!