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Alweld for bay and nearshore Gulf of Mexico Use
They have aluminum bay boats in 21 and 23 ft lengths (80 inch bottom width, 102" beam) that look pretty good. I'm also considering how much bay/near shore use one might get from a really big vee style alweld jon boat (Like 70 inch bottom width, 23 ft). Skinny water ain't really my thing. My children are growing and are quite skilled at putting the weight where it needs to be to ride well. My children are also hoping to start catching some different species of fish beyond the normal LA inshore mix, which means we need to start hitting Pensacola (bay and near shore) and the Big Bend area of Florida, as well as sneaking out to the rigs in LA waters. So would one of the alweld boats seem to work, or are there other aluminum boats we should be considering? I'm not a fan of pricey package deals, preferring to get a hull, and then outfit with motors and accessories myself. Almost no one puts dual outboards on boats in this class, but I have a strong preference for dual outboard 4 strokes, probable Nissan, Tohatsu, or Yamaha. |
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My uncle has a 21' express that he fishes the barrier islands with every so often on a flat calm day (few and far between), I would NOT go any further than that in it though.
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39 gallon gas tank isnt very big for running very far offshore, especially if you are planning on running two motors. Talk to one of the custom builders like Hanko's or Gaudet's
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Southern Fabrication in MC or Charles Leonard in Belle River. I've always owned Alum boats but fishing Salt Water/Big Open Water a Fiber Glass boat is soooo much nicer as far as noise and ride comfort. Just my opinion.
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Alweld makes some great boats I abused one for many years. Like most factory built aluminum boats they are not made for open water waves. Not sure if the transom will handle twin outboards...
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Good thing about Alweld is you can tell them exactly what you plan on doing and they will do what they can to help it fit the bill such as reinforce the transom. The boats are strong, I run a 16ft alweld and put it through some rough rides. Hankos or Gaudet will probably work better offshore and are also much more heavily built. Check into them, they make some badass aluminum boats perfect for what you are trying to accomplish.
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I would definitely consider a glass boat. Take a fools advice I have had them both. Storms come out of nowhere and the tide changes. I will never fish saltwater or big water in an aluminum boat again.
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Thanks guys, the custom aluminum makers look like they offer what I'm looking for.
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My FIL has a 20ft delta marsh center console aluminum. Ride in that thing sucks in open water. Beat you to death.
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Now look at the picture of the Lund Alaskan 20 ft aluminum boat. This boat has a proper V hull for more open water, has the forward weight to handle it, and if one keeps the speed to 10-15 mph, one can ride in rougher water without beating up passengers. |
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Yes, there are days when big lake is a sheet of glass, and one can do 65 mph and see all the obstacles, but most places in LA where one can see far enough to safely go 65 mph usually have wave action making that uncomfortable, and most places smooth enough to go 65 mph have too many hidden obstructions or the possibility of some other fellow coming around the next bend. I think we've all had some one come "out of nowhere" around a bend in the marsh or bayou and we were glad we were doing 20-30 mph rather than 65. If 250 hp will do 65 mph, 90 hp should get close to 40 hp, which is just about right. Especially if I might be turning over the boat to teenagers to take out, I'm not really inclined to power it to do more than 35 mph. |
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BTY the picture of the boat I posted is not a semi V. Full V with a pad on the back
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That's a nice looking sled. Does he only build 25' or whatever you want?
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Whatever you want.
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It is probably true that a 90 hp motor operated in such a manner will wear out before a 150 or a 225 hp motor operated most of their lives pushing the same boat around under 30 mph, but we all know that the 150 and 225 will burn tons more fuel, and probably spend most of their lives pushing the boat around at closer to 40 mph. The newer 4 cycle japenese motors have not been around long enough to be sure of their life spans operated at 80% of their rated hp rather than 50-60%, but I'm betting that they'll last a looooooong time. It all depends on how you fish too. My fishing style probably puts < 10 miles on the motor per trip, and even with a boat that can handle light offshorse/nearshore duty, I expect to still average under 20 miles per trip. Those distances probably won't wear out motors operating at 80%. |
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