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Old 09-02-2015, 08:05 PM
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The number of share you buy of a stock does not change how much you can make/loose.

What is important is the % change of the total money that you invest.

It does not matter if you buy 1000 shares at $ 50 Or......buy 5000 shares at $10. This would be a $ 50,000 investment.


Yes the money is the same. But buying a larger quantity of shares in a stock that has room to grow will make you more money.

Stocks that are at all time highs won't give you a 300% gain anytime soon. But a smaller cap stock at $10 that is good fundamentally, can grow exponentially higher and make you a ton of money.

Or, look at what Cheniere Energy did the past 5 years. Would you buy it now hoping to make a ton of money? No, you wouldn't. But if you bought 10,000 shares when it was at $5, then you would have hit a home run!!.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Apple is a bad buy. It's more of a stock I would use to put "already made" money, like from Cheniere, so as to protect it for the long haul into retirement.
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Old 09-02-2015, 09:33 PM
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Apple was a $700 stock and its at its low not close to high
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Apple was a $700 stock and its at its low not close to high

Not quite. Apple's market cap is still the same after the split. The $100 price today is the same as the $700 price before the split valuation wise. There are more outstanding shares now than before the split.

It's not nearly the same, the stock being $100 before there was a split, and being $100 now.

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Old 09-03-2015, 06:59 AM
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Not quite. Apple's market cap is still the same after the split. The $100 price today is the same as the $700 price before the split valuation wise. There are more outstanding shares now than before the split.

It's not nearly the same, the stock being $100 before there was a split, and being $100 now.
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I'll see u at $200 soon
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Apple is cheap at $100 is one of the most traded stocks in the world .

Everyone had a phone and when iPhone7'8'9'10etc keep coming along with iwatches and what not ..

100 is cheap ' 80 is a if you don't buy you lost


This stock will be over 300 before next year this time if not higher

Yea I just did some research and happened to watch Fast Money last night and they said AAPL was selling at a serious discount right now. They labeled it as a top 5 stock for long term large growth.
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The number of share you buy of a stock does not change how much you can make/loose.

It does not matter if you buy 1000 shares at $ 50 Or......buy 5000 shares at $10. This would be a $ 50,000 investment.
I would definately take the 5000 shares. Don't forget about dividends! That's how you make more money on the same investment total.
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Yea I just did some research and happened to watch Fast Money last night and they said AAPL was selling at a serious discount right now. They labeled it as a top 5 stock for long term large growth.
Agreed. Most analysts believe AAPL should be closer to 200 right now.
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WTI is saying oil will go below 30$ a barrel later this year as we are running out of oil storage in America!
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I called it the 1st time !! Just passing on info from a good source that Apple is going to move up soon over $200 a share

Simple math . You put 10k it can be 20k soon
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http://oilpro.com/post/18152/time-up...=Article_2_txt

This is brilliantly written. If you have any interest at all in this you should read it.
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all i know is that i need to be on a job instead of reading about all u 'trumps' and your stock options. lol
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Can the company be profitable with gas under $2.00 a gallon?
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Yes, no, maybe. How long is a piece of string?

A question like this has to many variables to answer quickly. Depending on a companies debt ratio and business philosophy some can. I personally like smaller well run independent companies. When a company runs intelligently and lean utilizing the best current technology, keeps debt down all the time then yes. They can be profitable through down cycles. The challenge is to remain that way through up cycles. It's very easy for a company to incur to much debt during an up cycle attempting to increase growth to take advantage of high prices. The trick as an investor in this industry is to know who makes good choices and invest in them. Not chase after the flash in the pans. It's possible to get caught up in the exciting big growth over leveraged players. It's all good until the bottom falls out. I've lost a time or two and learned the hard way.
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Can the company be profitable with gas under $2.00 a gallon?
Yes , when I started in the oil industry in 2000 oil was around 25-28bl and gas under $2

And oil companies never batted a eye at cost and it was actually a great time to be in the oil industry. When oil started its climb to record prices you saw companies expand and drilling took off to new levels and it was all great times .

Oil companies have been taking advantage of cheap labor and high profits for years but once then oil prices were stable cost of labor double for most . The oil companies were pushing out high bonus and ridicules salaries . I seen more money pissed off on some of the most unless things possible.

Oil companies are just like most Americans they live to there means and when oil was $100 bbl they spent like it.
Now they want to lay off the work force that made them !

Just like rice farming . You hold for higher price and get stuck with lower price but you survive and still buy 300k combines !

We seen it before (2008) and we will see it again , it's a market sold on futures !
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