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Old 06-27-2018, 07:14 AM
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It’s not just Big Lake IMO seems to be a decline everywhere. We aren’t seeing the limits of fish we usually do out of Cocodrie ethier.
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Old 06-27-2018, 01:44 PM
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Could all the Dolphins be making the trout population go down? I have seen them round up fish around the 9 mile cut?
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Old 06-27-2018, 02:29 PM
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big lake has such high salinity, do yall think the trout are just moving further north? I know in v. bay, I've caught limit with the salinity being less than 5. I know I've seen big lake salinity near 30 before. Do you think that's too salt for them?
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Old 06-27-2018, 03:01 PM
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No relation to salinity. You have a population of trout that live in the gulf. Most of those trout seem to migrate east to west. The lake is fed by the gulf, hence, salinity not being a factor. Yes, trout move with salinity, but, it will not chase them off. Pure seawater is 35 parts.
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:03 AM
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We've had 3 years of serious fresh conditions in the lake.. and just when it was getting decent again we got the spring rains this year and freshed it up again.

The oyster population was hurt more by the 7 year drought BEFORE the flood years than the oystermen. I'm not saying they shouldn't do a better job and maybe build more reefs but as long as they follow regulations and put back cultch AND as long as we have some favorable salinities for oysters to grow and live, they'll be alright.

Both Sabine and Big Lake are 'lakes' that means they have a narrow single inlet compared to 'bays'. That can exacerbate the affects of fresh water run off into the lake and while the Gulf is 32 ppt salinity, having only one inlet does not guarantee that the lake will be saline enough for trout. Trout can survive very low salinity even if it is fresh on top as long as it's 1-5ppt on the bottom and they'll put up with it for a couple weeks.. after that if the lake is totally fresh they'll move around to deeper areas where they can find the salinity they need.

There is also a seasonal shift of trout and reds and if a freshwater event happens during one of these shifts, trout may appear as if they aren't showing up for almost a year.

Dinks is always the story under the birds except in the very late fall.. the last several years the decent fish havn't gotten under the 'birds' until December and January do to the lateness of frontal passages that would be big enough to flush the lake and force the fish to leave the shallows and finally chase the remaining shrimp in the bay for a short period before they leave.

We've had to deal with a lot of changing conditions that are variable and some big fish have still been caught.

I'm not saying that fishing pressure isn't having any affect, I'm just saying there are lots of variables at play as to why both Sabine and Big Lake have been off the last couple of years.
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Old 06-28-2018, 04:36 PM
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I fish central coast, Cocodrie to be specific and have noticed a sharp decline in trout catches the past two weeks. Season started late, was good for a few weeks and the usual midsummer lull has started earlier than usual. I dont think anybody or anything can be blamed. Trout fishing is cyclical and will get better. Always has and always will according to my 30+ trout fishing years down there. Good luck to everyone
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:12 PM
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This is defiantly a tough year . One of the toughest I seen in a long time.
When guides are targeting redfish in June and July something is wrong .
Don?t know if it was that we had such a cold winter with temps getting to 17 degrees for two days.
That could of killed off a ton of fish that we don?t know about .
I don?t see a shortage of dink trout because some days you can catch 100 throwbacks under birds
I dont even fish birds at all anymore because they have zero keepers hardly .
Some get lucky and hit a school and have keeper fish but to hit 10 groups to find one good one ain?t worth it .

The whole lake was basically non fished from Feb to Mid April due to weather so we should of had a bumper crop !!

But when guides who have been fishing this lake for 30-40 years and only have like 1-4 limits of trout with customers and it?s almost July .
It sucks ...

Hell I even had to start getting shrimp everyday just to make decent boxes of fish ..
They don?t even eat plastic good anymore


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Old 06-30-2018, 07:27 AM
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Most people I have talked to believe the hard freeze killed a significant amount of fish. Someone I know was on the water as crazy as that sounds during the freeze and he could scoop up a limit of fish easily.
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Old 07-01-2018, 05:39 AM
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Another place that use to hold lots of trout was close in rigs in front of pecan island. I know lots of platforms or gone but there's still some out there and none of them have trout I know we try on the way out for snapper . Limits still 25 on this end . About the same thing with ducks to many guns to many fishing poles.
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:44 AM
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I think it's just too damn hot.
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Old 07-01-2018, 08:18 AM
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Most people I have talked to believe the hard freeze killed a significant amount of fish. Someone I know was on the water as crazy as that sounds during the freeze and he could scoop up a limit of fish easily.
That?s my thoughts too. I fished hwy 1 in GI during the hard freezes and there was dead fish all over. The pelicans were literally starving due to lack of bait fish.
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