CCA Meeting @ Casa Maniana @ 5:30 today

["W"]

Originally Posted by rustyb

W, Has CCA in your opinion ever done anything worthwhile? Anywhere? Or is it just a big lake thing for you. Curious?

CCA has done good in other places and they are a good organization that have a good goal

I think they are scared of politics over here at Big Lake , they rather satisfy people like Will Drost and HRG by lowering trout limits and putting restrictions on 3tail

But ignore the real issues we have like Oyster dredging , erosion and weirs


They fight the easy battles as I stated above but ignore the real problems here !!!


They will not touch the oyster dredging due to politics and money !!!



Don't worry in about 4 more years we will have zero legal oysters in west cove so they will be forced to close for 10 years

[rustyb]

Gotcha now I understand your point.

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by LadyFishKiller

Or post what you'd like brought up, and I'll voice some of those things myself. I just remember a lot of talking going on last year around the time the STAR kicked off.

Did you speak up? What happened?

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by rustyb

W, Has CCA in your opinion ever done anything worthwhile? Anywhere? Or is it just a big lake thing for you. Curious?

CCA does a good job with restoration projects in TX, where most of the money gets spent. They've funded some good studies and done some quality oyster reef restorations in Galveston Bay.

But they bring a TX regulatory mindset to LA, thinking more restrictive harvest regulations are always a good idea, regardless of what the science says.

They will have ZERO credibility in LA until they push hard to roll back the unscientific regulations on tripletail (statewide) and specks in Big Lake.

[rustyb]

Do they do more on the east side of the state or vermillion bay?

["W"]

Like Mathgeek said , you lose credibly when you buck the biologists and scientist to push a limit where it's not needed

I was told from the mouth of CCA president when I asked him why the CCA backed the 15 trout limit

His exact words to me were ; Because it was the right thing to do !

So in other words as the reports I posted on this thread ! It was what HRG and Will Drost (he wanted 10) wanted plus they used a survey of 1000 "CCA members " (awesome research )


CCA should of said to Henry ... No the CCA will not go against our state biologist and there research ! Until they tell us other wise we support the. 25 trout limit


Because most of guides at some charters can't catch limits they believe there is no fish !! Lol

I have zero problems catching limits all the time!

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by rustyb

Do they do more on the east side of the state or vermillion bay?

Lobbying for unscientific fishing regulations has impacted the whole state, and the whole state is at continued risk of calls for lower trout limits in the future, even though the fishery says the trout stocks are fine. The unscientific imposition of the tripletail limit is also state wide.

Sure, they've put in a few artificial reefs on the E side, but oyster reefs enhance production by providing a wide variety of ecosystem services. Artificial reefs in most areas of LA will just serve to attract trout so they are more easily caught. CCA knows this well, which is why TX gets the oyster reefs.

They've also got 12 employees with salaries over $100k, all TX residents. CCA Louisiana is a shell game to fleece gullible anglers and bring the bacon home to TX.

[rustyb]

Thanks for the info. Never really understood. They have marketing down to a science. Didn't know 12 employees making over 100K. Not a bad gig.

[biggun]

Matt Geek..

U SIR are Definitely Misguided in your thinking.. U think A NON-PROFIT has Employees making 100K each.

Dude! U smoking some great Shizzzzt.

U make accusations about employee's making 100K herein LA. Show EVERYONE on here that ONE CCA LA employee makes 100K.

Each state has its' own employee's. At one time last yr CCA LA. had about 18,000 member's. The most it's ever had.

Membership fee is $25 per member. The other $30 of your $55 yrly membership is used to pay for the meals at a banquet. And Before U say meals don't cost $30... Go get a quote from a caterer.. U think all that liquor is free??? Beer Free? Don't think so.. All the trips and auction items free??? Yes some stuff IS donated, but not all...

Yes; It cost to rent the Place for a Banquet.. Do U think the Burton Coliseum is FREE???

U think the Sherriff deputies who provide security are free??? Don't Think SO.. There are life members that give a ONE Time fee of 1K.

But lets say for shiz and giggles, Lets do the SIMPLE MATH. 18,000 members X $25= That's only $450,000. Unless my Iphone 6 calculator doesn't add correctly..

CCA LA. has about 10 employees in the BR Office... Hardly enough to pay them 45K each.. Plus they have office space to pay for, phones, postage, electricity, insurance... etc etc.

So PLEASE lets see YOUR PROOF that anyone from CCA LA. make 100K each. Ain't happening..

Again this is simple math.. My figures May be off about 10-20K.. But that's it.. So Instead of B***hing.. Get involved to advocate CHANGE....

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by biggun

Matt Geek..

U SIR are Definitely Misguided in your thinking.. U think A NON-PROFIT has Employees making 100K each.

Dude! U smoking some great Shizzzzt.

U make accusations about employee's making 100K herein LA. Show EVERYONE on here that ONE CCA LA employee makes 100K.

Each state has its' own employee's. At one time last yr CCA LA. had about 18,000 member's. The most it's ever had.

Membership fee is $25 per member. The other $30 of your $55 yrly membership is used to pay for the meals at a banquet. And Before U say meals don't cost $30... Go get a quote from a caterer.. U think all that liquor is free??? Beer Free? Don't think so.. All the trips and auction items free??? Yes some stuff IS donated, but not all...

Yes; It cost to rent the Place for a Banquet.. Do U think the Burton Coliseum is FREE???

U think the Sherriff deputies who provide security are free??? Don't Think SO.. There are life members that give a ONE Time fee of 1K.

But lets say for shiz and giggles, Lets do the SIMPLE MATH. 18,000 members X $25= That's only $450,000. Unless my Iphone 6 calculator doesn't add correctly..

CCA LA. has about 10 employees in the BR Office... Hardly enough to pay them 45K each.. Plus they have office space to pay for, phones, postage, electricity, insurance... etc etc.

So PLEASE lets see YOUR PROOF that anyone from CCA LA. make 100K each. Ain't happening..

Again this is simple math.. My figures May be off about 10-20K.. But that's it.. So Instead of B***hing.. Get involved to advocate CHANGE....

Had a guy that works for N***, a nonprofit, tell me that N*** has a base salary for its positions, and then goes out and gets grants that also help fund that position. He said that is how you get positions that pay close to $90k.

Not to hard to imagine that CCA does the same thing.

By the way, NFL is a nonprofit. Do you really believe Goodell isn't making $100k?

Just because its a "nonprofit" doesn't mean some employees aren't making out well.

Don't know how reputable this website is, but it reports David Cresson's salary at over $200k.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/inde...9#.VQjdFaX0DqA

The form 990 from 2012 also indicates he made over $230k.

That same form 990 indicates that $120k of it was Base, another nearly $90k was a "bonus".

[meaux fishing]

Originally Posted by biggun

Matt Geek..

U SIR are Definitely Misguided in your thinking.. U think A NON-PROFIT has Employees making 100K each.

Dude! U smoking some great Shizzzzt.

U make accusations about employee's making 100K herein LA. Show EVERYONE on here that ONE CCA LA employee makes 100K.

Each state has its' own employee's. At one time last yr CCA LA. had about 18,000 member's. The most it's ever had.

Membership fee is $25 per member. The other $30 of your $55 yrly membership is used to pay for the meals at a banquet. And Before U say meals don't cost $30... Go get a quote from a caterer.. U think all that liquor is free??? Beer Free? Don't think so.. All the trips and auction items free??? Yes some stuff IS donated, but not all...

Yes; It cost to rent the Place for a Banquet.. Do U think the Burton Coliseum is FREE???

U think the Sherriff deputies who provide security are free??? Don't Think SO.. There are life members that give a ONE Time fee of 1K.

But lets say for shiz and giggles, Lets do the SIMPLE MATH. 18,000 members X $25= That's only $450,000. Unless my Iphone 6 calculator doesn't add correctly..

CCA LA. has about 10 employees in the BR Office... Hardly enough to pay them 45K each.. Plus they have office space to pay for, phones, postage, electricity, insurance... etc etc.

So PLEASE lets see YOUR PROOF that anyone from CCA LA. make 100K each. Ain't happening..

Again this is simple math.. My figures May be off about 10-20K.. But that's it.. So Instead of B***hing.. Get involved to advocate CHANGE....

what about the star entry fee and all the money donated AT the banquets Have you noticed what the star prizes are now compared to 10 years ago? Now compare the LA Star Prizes to the TX Star Prizes. If there is more members, donating more money, shouldnt the prizes be getting better?

Not to mention the money donated from outside sources by big companies like Chevron.

["W"]

Originally Posted by biggun

Matt Geek..

U SIR are Definitely Misguided in your thinking.. U think A NON-PROFIT has Employees making 100K each.

Dude! U smoking some great Shizzzzt.

U make accusations about employee's making 100K herein LA. Show EVERYONE on here that ONE CCA LA employee makes 100K.

Each state has its' own employee's. At one time last yr CCA LA. had about 18,000 member's. The most it's ever had.

Membership fee is $25 per member. The other $30 of your $55 yrly membership is used to pay for the meals at a banquet. And Before U say meals don't cost $30... Go get a quote from a caterer.. U think all that liquor is free??? Beer Free? Don't think so.. All the trips and auction items free??? Yes some stuff IS donated, but not all...

Yes; It cost to rent the Place for a Banquet.. Do U think the Burton Coliseum is FREE???

U think the Sherriff deputies who provide security are free??? Don't Think SO.. There are life members that give a ONE Time fee of 1K.

But lets say for shiz and giggles, Lets do the SIMPLE MATH. 18,000 members X $25= That's only $450,000. Unless my Iphone 6 calculator doesn't add correctly..

CCA LA. has about 10 employees in the BR Office... Hardly enough to pay them 45K each.. Plus they have office space to pay for, phones, postage, electricity, insurance... etc etc.

So PLEASE lets see YOUR PROOF that anyone from CCA LA. make 100K each. Ain't happening..

Again this is simple math.. My figures May be off about 10-20K.. But that's it.. So Instead of B***hing.. Get involved to advocate CHANGE....

MY GOD poor the Kool Aid out

I have a free all inclusive fishing trip for you to prove that David C makes less than 100k a year !!

I know personally he makes over 100k so if you can prove to me he don't !! I'll take anyone u like fishing for free

[Smalls]

Also, Rad Trascher is on that list at over $100k.

["W"]

Biggun
How about you tell us why the CCA went against science to support the 15 trout limt? Or 3tail restrictions ?
Or why they will not help us on oyster dredging


You attack MG but I bet you will not answer my questions !

Because the head CCA WILL not answer my questions because they have no answers

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by biggun

Matt Geek..

U SIR are Definitely Misguided in your thinking.. U think A NON-PROFIT has Employees making 100K each.

Last year CCA's Form 990 was posted here showing 12 employees making over $100k. Lots of non-profits are shell games for overpaid employees, and it looks like CCA is among them.

I am involved. I am one of the leaders of the "Boycott the S.T.A.R." movement. I've been to several LWC meetings advocating for improved science for Big Lake, advocating oyster restoration, and advocating for science based regulations. I also organized a letter writing campaign advocating for sound science before changing the tripletail regulations. My son and I are also active in the LA TAG fish tagging program.

Further, I am a participant in a Big Lake centered annual creel survey program that has measured and weighed over 1000 fish over the past four years and correlated fish condition with various factors including oyster stocks and weir openings. We approached CCA several years back hoping to work together on the scientific goals, but they refused to even correspond with about the project.

["W"]

CCA is not about science it's about "feel good"

Big Lake area it's what Will Drost and HRG think

Poor people with out deep pockets that spend hours on the lake have zero say so !

Unless your a gold lifetime CCA member or have millions of dollars to donate your voice is silent !!

CCA use to be a good thing but now it's ran by frat boys with deep pocket !!

["W"]

Big gun let me break it down for you

If a geologist or scientist come to you and says Mr you have 20-30!years worth of oil reserves on your land , we think you should drill

Or you have Oprah Show up and say MR bIggun you don't need to drill were telling you there is no oil down there ! Here is a car and $300,000 let's go play golf


Would you take Oprah word of Geologist ?

[Smalls]

^Oprah plays golf? Lol.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Smalls

^Oprah plays golf? Lol.

Got me pissed tonight

Hate when a CCA sunshine pumper comes here can can't back one thing up !!!

Bring hard facts and they either leave site or go silent !!

I will donate $1000 or hell more if CCA fights to stop oyster dredging !! I will become life member !!
You can bookmark this !!

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by "W"

Got me pissed tonight

Hate when a CCA sunshine pumper comes here can can't back one thing up !!!

Bring hard facts and they either leave site or go silent !!

I will donate $1000 or hell more if CCA fights to stop oyster dredging !! I will become life member !!
You can bookmark this !!

W, Thanks for your efforts to lower the salinity in Big Lake. There is some great stuff going on there with tremendous potential. Keep up the good work, it would be awesome to see this happen. It won't just allow the weirs to be open more days per year, but the lower salinity would also help the oyster reefs come back on the E side.