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Old 02-17-2014, 09:39 PM
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Who would have thought a coke commercial would bring on the end of society as we know it.

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Perhaps it was meant to be thought provoking?

There have been some very good arguments brought forth throughout this discussion..."Do we tolerate another language or, should they learn ours?" "Have we become so blinded by people being "offended" that we are now afraid to have one set of rules or creed that our nation live by?C"

In short, my thoughts are that, we are One nation(now divided by multi-culturism). We were designed in this nation to speak one language, whether it be behind the curve of the rest of the world...It's just the way we are. We have been completely polarized by left or right, black or white. We are playing into our gov'ts hand, as well as major corporations(who feeds who in that scenario?). Until we can be ONE nation again, we are divided, regardless of age, race, creed or, sexual orientation. Just think, all of this commercial only fueled the idea that we are no longer one nation because so many of us are indoctrinated now by the multi-cultural mentality.

Once upon a time, German immigrants fought alongside Italians for the USA, in their home country. They believed in the new world. There was a time when they spoke their native language only in the home. Now, some folks feel that the SAT should be written in Spanish and, ebonics so that ALL can pass. Now days, this nation is divided in so many ways that it is destined to fail...Is this the result of a commercial? Of course not! Did this commercial spark a debate for opening the eyes of our nation to our own demise? Perhaps. I mean, just think...Somehow or another, a known socialist and, suspected immigrant was elected and, then, re-elected!
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Old 02-18-2014, 09:05 AM
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Perhaps it was meant to be thought provoking?

There have been some very good arguments brought forth throughout this discussion..."Do we tolerate another language or, should they learn ours?" "Have we become so blinded by people being "offended" that we are now afraid to have one set of rules or creed that our nation live by?C"

In short, my thoughts are that, we are One nation(now divided by multi-culturism). We were designed in this nation to speak one language, whether it be behind the curve of the rest of the world...It's just the way we are. We have been completely polarized by left or right, black or white. We are playing into our gov'ts hand, as well as major corporations(who feeds who in that scenario?). Until we can be ONE nation again, we are divided, regardless of age, race, creed or, sexual orientation. Just think, all of this commercial only fueled the idea that we are no longer one nation because so many of us are indoctrinated now by the multi-cultural mentality.

Once upon a time, German immigrants fought alongside Italians for the USA, in their home country. They believed in the new world. There was a time when they spoke their native language only in the home. Now, some folks feel that the SAT should be written in Spanish and, ebonics so that ALL can pass. Now days, this nation is divided in so many ways that it is destined to fail...Is this the result of a commercial? Of course not! Did this commercial spark a debate for opening the eyes of our nation to our own demise? Perhaps. I mean, just think...Somehow or another, a known socialist and, suspected immigrant was elected and, then, re-elected!
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:30 AM
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There are key differences between "Republicans" and conservatives. I find that there are principled conservatives in several political parties. In contrast, many Republicans are pushing destructive policy agendas in a variety of areas including immigration reform, fiscal policy, taxes, health care, the environment, and the size and overreaching power of the federal government.

By definition, true conservatives are working to limit the size and scope of government, reduce taxes, and move government at all levels into strict compliance with Constitutional functions and boundaries.
Yeah.. they are called libertarians nowadays..
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:51 AM
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as usual i am late to the party..

But southern is hitting it right on the head.

Although it's from a movie clip... this sum's up exactly why we are going downhill so fast..


We are allowing our goverment and corporate lobby groups to keep us all divided / hating each other because of our skins, religions, and politics.

I choose to be a libertarian for exactly this reason... I will not choose the lesser evil any damned more. I will not give my consent as a citizen by doing that any more. I recognize that this means that my vote will not help those wearing either red or blue shirts... but am past the point of giving a crap about it. Neither one has either my or this countries interests at heart anyway. They are just there to keep there corporate lobbyist master's happy.

We have been involved in the "war on terror" for longer than ww1,2,korea,and every war since combined. What have we gotten from it... half our personal freedoms stripped away and the terrorists are still going full steam.

We have the highest costs per capita as a percentage of GDP for healthcare of any civilized nation... yet have one of the least effective systems (measure of # of doctors and hospital beds per capita)

We jail a higher percentage of people than most of the rest of the world combined, yet our crime rates are among poorly policed third world country standards.

Our school system (other than to some arguable extent our university's and college's) are a joke, which is still knee deep in the failed prussian model of schooling.

We bicker back and forth about "obama" is the devil and will ruin this country. Or republicans only care about rich people and are going to squeeze the middle class and poor through the grinder.

We scream about Obamacare is going to bankrupt insurance companies and that's the goal of the government... (yet insurance company stocks have ALL skyrocketed since obamacare has went live...) No one says.... well looky here.... if its gonna bankrupt insurance companies then why are they making so much more money???? could it be because they are the ones who wrote the laws to create a system... where it cost significantly more to purchase significantly less insurance... and yet you were MANDATED TO DO IT???....

We chant meaningless slogan's like "they will take my guns when they pry them from my cold dead hands" yet don't mind one bit that the NSA can and does listen and record your every conversation.

We are up in arms over coca cola airing a commercial celebrating diversity, but we ignore the NSA & CIA giving tacit approval to KILL AMERICAN CITIZENS via drone strikes, without so much as a nod to due process (trial by a jury etc) or any of the other values that our founding father fought for.

I will say here... I don't care if your a dem or a pub... stop voting for the lesser of two evils. start voting like you have a pair. non of our founding fathers would have done any less. I will be damned if i will.



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Old 02-18-2014, 12:04 PM
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:18 PM
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Damn it fellas. I got some catchin up to do. Too much to sort through using my phone.
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Anyone know (not a guess but real answer) the process of becoming a United States citizen?

How long does it take from the beginning point to becoming a citizen?


In other words if Jose from Mexico wants to become a United States citizen, what does he do? What are the steps and how long does it take?
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:42 PM
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but that finger works just like any other humans, regardless of language.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:45 PM
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Sure does... So let their finger work for them in their country!

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Old 02-18-2014, 06:03 PM
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Anyone know (not a guess but real answer) the process of becoming a United States citizen?

How long does it take from the beginning point to becoming a citizen?


In other words if Jose from Mexico wants to become a United States citizen, what does he do? What are the steps and how long does it take?
I know the Vietnamese girl at work said that after she married an American, she has a 3 year period before she is an actual citizen. I always thought it was immediate, but apparently not. She still has a year and a half left..... There's still hope for a divorce! As far as moving here and going the paperwork route, I have no clue. I would assume you could just buy the right paperwork from the trunk of somebodies car!
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Old 02-18-2014, 09:29 PM
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Legally, several years and thousands of dollars.
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I think all these ppl that want illegals here should house about 5 or 10 of em
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I believe 7 yrs


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I thought it was a year and taking test and pledge.

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Old 02-19-2014, 07:38 AM
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It says you must be a perm resident for 5 years.
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Old 02-21-2014, 01:00 AM
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would we have this conversation if Cajun French was one of the languages that was sung?
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:40 AM
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would we have this conversation if Cajun French was one of the languages that was sung?
The French people has assimilated, pay taxes, and haven't tried to F Up our country so it would be like the $hithole they came from. Try not to compare Patriotism with Nationality.
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