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Old 03-29-2016, 07:42 AM
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These are each described in detail in the article text below. 10. Less exposure to sexual aggression and predators. 9. A drug free environment. 8. More positive peer pressure. 7.Tailored curricula. 6. Belonging is family centered. 5. Pure motives. 4. Academic rigor. 3. Academic integrity. 2. Time with parents ...
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:56 AM
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"Ten. Less Exposure to Sexual Aggression and Predators – Fifteen years after the press and the US Senate gave the President a free pass on having sex with an intern in the Oval Office, the teens whose moral compasses were shaped by those events are now teachers and administrators of public and private schools. This reshaped moral compass gives tremendous latitude to sexual behaviors of students and teachers on campus, and everything from electronic pornography to sex on campus is widely tolerated. Many schools still have impressive written rules, but the reality is most adults on campus look the other way even when actions constitute criminal behavior. The number of high schools where consensual sex between students is no longer against the rules is also surprising.

In our family home school, we ensure safety in this area by following the guidance of pastors and Christian counselors regarding appropriate chaperoning of mixed sex activities and appropriate parental monitoring and boundaries of electronic communications. "







First I'd like to say, posting of the top 10 reasons on a message board gives us permission to comment... So I don't wanna hear of any that "don't like it, don't click on it" stuff. See my thoughts below.



1. Sorry, but Bill Clinton getting is junk swallowed by that chubby intern has nothing to do with high school kids having sex. It has happened long before this incident. Sexual curiosity in post pubescent teens is a scientific fact and has in no way, shape, or form been affected by a sitting Presidents sexual exploits.

2. I’m sure your kids have access to electronic pornography with the phones in their pockets right now. Or are they not trusted by the temptation with such technology ? Also, I highly doubt sex on high school campuses are allowed. If so, I wish someone would have informed me of such when I was a student. It would have been a safer environment than on the side of a gravel road at night.

3. Have you read “many schools” written rules to qualify them as impressive? What standard are you using to base your judgment of these policies? If so, exactly how much time did you spend on each campus to compare their policies and what actually happens in these situations? Furthermore, how many incidents did you witness that could be constituted as criminal behavior?

4. I didn’t realize the schools could dictate what children do off campus outside of school hours. I’m fairly certain a teen’s sexual activity is the responsibility of the parent.

5. The entire last sentence reminds me of this clip from the movie “The Candidate” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOtG6uzhwX4

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Old 03-29-2016, 10:25 AM
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I'm not against home schooling kids as I have a few friends who were home schooled, but I have to say that they do miss out a bunch on social activities. I'm super glad I wasn't home schooled. I enjoyed being in the social environment with all sorts of different people. I enjoyed all the school dances, sports, even just hanging out with everyone for lunch, not to mention all the other festivities that we had, and I would have hated to miss out on all that. I feel that I've gained something more than what my home schooled friends have by getting to experience all of that. There's some good and bad to it for sure, but I think as long as you've taught your kid what's a good choice and bad choice that they would be just fine. Of course, the level of education may be different but as long as they are in a decent school, I think it would be more beneficial. Just my opinion, I hope it doesn't offend anyone.
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Old 03-29-2016, 10:35 AM
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I know quite a few ppl who were homeschooled and most of them regret it. Mostly bc they are very socially akward bc of it.
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There is a sense of school spirit and pride that you will not get while being home schooled. I have friends with children that are home schooled the sporting events just aren’t' the same. Before anyone says anything yes I believe sports are a very important part of young kids lives. The social skills you learn in school are very important. You have to learn to get along with people rather you agree with them or not. Rich / poor, black / white, you have to make it work. The few home schooled employees that I have had never really fit in with our culture at the office. Maybe I just had a bad sample but they were always a little “different”. Maybe because they never had to learn how to fit in before? Who knows…...
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I know quite a few ppl who were homeschooled and most of them regret it. Mostly bc they are very socially akward bc of it.
I have 17 nieces and nephews, 6 of that group were homeschooled for most of their lives then thrown into modern sociality after that. Their Parents and Church were always there for them and preached/taught following Gods will. They were taught Morals and how they should behave outside of the home. These 6 individuals have had an extremely hard time being reintroduced into society after home schooling. Ironically, the oldest ones have had the most issues in life because they were home schooled the most and the youngest has had the least amount of problems because they were introduced into a school system in middle school.

Don't get me wrong, these kids are very smart and my sister did an amazing job of teaching them core classes but you can't teach real interaction in that environment. Although they interacted with people of their church on the weekends, they never dealt with adversity or temptation at a young age. They were taught to avoid it and denounce it but when it came down to real life, they had lots of trouble doing so due to so little real World practice.

After seeing first hand the outcome of home schooling, I do not see it as a smart choice. I went to a catholic school from K-12 and was taught the same things as my nieces and nephews, only difference is that I was able to practice what was preached to me and learned to stand up for what I was taught. My Nieces and Nephews never had that privilege and were blindsided by the real world when introduced to it.

P.S. They are all over 25 yrs old now and doing well, but it was a hard and bumpy ride for their youth.
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Old 03-29-2016, 11:04 AM
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Social skills are the biggest thing missing from a home schooled environment. I have seen both sides of it, as well as my wife. We were both home schooled at one point, but also in public schools at times (i was also in a Catholic school for a year). I enjoyed the home schooled years because we were done early, didn't go to school all year, could take trips whenever. But when I went back half way through the school year, I was lightyears ahead of my class.

I disagree with the "more positive peer pressure" assertion, because you aren't among your peers. You can't have peer pressure when you aren't among your peers, and younger or older siblings are not the same as kids your same age.

If kids aren't getting what they need to out of school, it is ultimately on the parents. There are good schools and good environments for kids to learn in. You just have to find them.

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I have 17 nieces and nephews, 6 of that group were homeschooled for most of their lives then thrown into modern sociality after that. Their Parents and Church were always there for them and preached/taught following Gods will. They were taught Morals and how they should behave outside of the home. These 6 individuals have had an extremely hard time being reintroduced into society after home schooling. Ironically, the oldest ones have had the most issues in life because they were home schooled the most and the youngest has had the least amount of problems because they were introduced into a school system in middle school.

Don't get me wrong, these kids are very smart and my sister did an amazing job of teaching them core classes but you can't teach real interaction in that environment. Although they interacted with people of their church on the weekends, they never dealt with adversity or temptation at a young age. They were taught to avoid it and denounce it but when it came down to real life, they had lots of trouble doing so due to so little real World practice.

After seeing first hand the outcome of home schooling, I do not see it as a smart choice. I went to a catholic school from K-12 and was taught the same things as my nieces and nephews, only difference is that I was able to practice what was preached to me and learned to stand up for what I was taught. My Nieces and Nephews never had that privilege and were blindsided by the real world when introduced to it.

P.S. They are all over 25 yrs old now and doing well, but it was a hard and bumpy ride for their youth.
Thanks for posting this... sounds much better than how i said it.

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Social interaction is a big thing for home schooled kids. My son is home schooled and he seems to handle himself ok in social situations. We have him in cub scouts, he plays rec sports and he goes to church. Surprisingly I've found he's had to deal with situations in kid's church that I wouldn't have expected, or at least when I was his age I didn't have to deal with them. Due to Internet access he knows a lot of stuff I wouldn't expect him to know since he's not around other kids all day. We've found there are home school groups that kids can get involved in to provide more interaction. I think a lot of home schooled kid's social skills when they get older will depend on the kid too. I know some kids that are finished with home school and some are fine and some are strange. I think it's one of those things where you do what you think is best for your kid and hope they turn out right.


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What do you do after you "graduate" home school? Do you go to home college and then get a home job. How do you get a girlfriend? How do you learn to deal with bullies or unfair teachers etc?

I'm sure everyone of us started a funny story with "remember in high school when we...."

Yes your kids will be better at math and science, but at what cost.
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[QUOTE=Pull n Pray;790914]What do you do after you "graduate" home school? Do you go to home college and then get a home job. How do you get a girlfriend?


Everyone knows you get a HOME GIRLFRIEND! LOL
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What do you do after you "graduate" home school? Do you go to home college and then get a home job. How do you get a girlfriend? How do you learn to deal with bullies or unfair teachers etc?

I'm sure everyone of us started a funny story with "remember in high school when we...."

Yes your kids will be better at math and science, but at what cost.



X2......on the home schooling. I personally would never home school my kids.

The ones I know who home school their kids is because they do not want to send their kids to public school; however, they are too cheap / tight to pay for private school cost like I do. So there is really no other choice but to home school them.

For example, my oldest son who is in 10th grade has a few buddies that are home schooled. He says they are the biggest HORN DOGS when it comes to girls when they go somewhere in public.....
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I'm not against home schooling kids as I have a few friends who were home schooled, but I have to say that they do miss out a bunch on social activities. I'm super glad I wasn't home schooled. I enjoyed being in the social environment with all sorts of different people. I enjoyed all the school dances, sports, even just hanging out with everyone for lunch, not to mention all the other festivities that we had, and I would have hated to miss out on all that. I feel that I've gained something more than what my home schooled friends have by getting to experience all of that. There's some good and bad to it for sure, but I think as long as you've taught your kid what's a good choice and bad choice that they would be just fine. Of course, the level of education may be different but as long as they are in a decent school, I think it would be more beneficial. Just my opinion, I hope it doesn't offend anyone.
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I believe too much "sheltering" of our kids will only increase the "shock value" the day they are officially turned loose in society. As stated above, many opportunities in their young lives will be missed. Many friendships will never happen. High school team sports is something that they will only hear others talking about in conversations. High school proms, class trips...the list goes on. Don't get me wrong...I understand how you feel about our kids. I just think there is a much bigger downside than upside.
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What do you do after you "graduate" home school? Do you go to home college and then get a home job. How do you get a girlfriend? How do you learn to deal with bullies or unfair teachers etc?

I'm sure everyone of us started a funny story with "remember in high school when we...."

Yes your kids will be better at math and science, but at what cost.
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The biggest thing about home schooling to me, most parents are not educated enough to understand teaching! Some are, did well with their kids, kids went to college & graduated with honors. But they are only friends with "homeschoolers" and don't interact with the real world very well. Yes I am a very conservative Christian, BUT, don't believe in homeschooling.
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Y'all can say whatever y'all want about MG and his home schooling. Just don't say it within 1, 000 yards of his sons
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I will say this. I have had the pleasure of meeting and fishing with all three of MG's children and will tell you he is raising some dang fine young men and lady.
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A bunch of liberal bs is what I'm reading. You decide how/who you will be. Stop blaming the outside world. Hell half the public school kids don't talk to anyone unless it's online. Awesome social skills there.
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To me the main downside to it, is when you enter the work force, it's going to be more difficult to take on a position within a corporate structure which puts you in a leadership role. When you've dealt with the peer pressure, immaturity, bullying, clicks, drugs, etc. through your school yrs. it's easier to deal with those same types, cause their in the workforce also.
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Lots of interesting feedback. Sure, there probably are still some good schools where parents can depend on their children being well prepared academically for college. But having taught at both the Air Force Academy and a big state school (physics and calculus), I can tell you that in most states, the majority of students with ACT scores near and below average are poorly prepared for these college courses both in their study habits and in their skills and knowledge in science and math.

Sure, students also need to be well prepared for the onslaught of temptations that await them in college. An 18 year old college student should be better prepared to face temptations to common excesses of college years. However, in many public schools direct exposure to these destructive behaviors can become very common in middle and high school. Home school provides a way to reduce exposures to destructive behaviors and related temptations until the student is sufficiently prepared to resist them. Having taught in several public schools, my wife and I have seen that these schools' efforts and abilities to provide learning environments with manageable levels of these destructive behaviors and temptations is far, far less than it was when we attended public schools 30-40 years ago.

The view of home schooling that assumes that parents and siblings are the only peers is skewed and demonstrates that those commenting did not even read the original article. One wonders if public school advocates and graduates have a habit of commenting before actually reading. Most home school students have increasing amounts of peer interactions through middle school and high school. 10-20 hours per week is typical for high schoolers, including sports, youth groups, college classes, high school coursework, clubs, and other extracurriculars. In addition to lots of extracurriculars and sports, our approach is for our students to gradually acclimate to college work and life starting with at least one college course in 10th grade and increasing to five college courses in the 12th grade.

Having taught both high school and college, I am surprised at the high esteem many posters have for the socialization skills of public school students. Public schools are churning out vast numbers of graduates today with an entitlement mentality and woefully inadequate comprehension of personal responsibility as well as woefully inadequate communication skills. Even now, nearly every time I drop my students off at a local college campus, I see tons of public school products walking around with their heads buried in a cell phone. Is that the social diversity and skill set my home schooled students are supposedly lacking? No thanks.
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