Climate vs weirs/oysters etc.

[homerun]

After seeing a really good summer on numbers of fish this summer. Makes me believe climate has more to do with lack of shrimp/fish than anything else. We had a really cold winter that delayed shrimp showing up and ended up with more shrimp/specks in lake in a long time. If i remember correctly we used to always have really cold winters when the fishing was good all summer 20 -30 years years ago. Cold winters and hurricanes means good shrimp/speck catches. Just Saying!

[Duck Butter]

makes too much sense man so you are not going to get any comments on it


I will add a fun fact about Weirs. One of the founding members of the Grateful Dead was Bob Weir. After Jerry Garcia died, Bob Weir created a band that still tours to this day. The band is called RatDog Is there a correlation between our very own RatDog and this?

Ratdog - were you a 'deadhead'?

[BuckingFastard]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

makes too much sense man so you are not going to get any comments on it


I will add a fun fact about Weirs. One of the founding members of the Grateful Dead was Bob Weir. After Jerry Garcia died, Bob Weir created a band that still tours to this day. The band is called RatDog Is there a correlation between our very own RatDog and this?

Ratdog - were you a 'deadhead'?

Mind=Blown

[Natural Light Kid]

Originally Posted by homerun

After seeing a really good summer on numbers of fish this summer. Makes me believe climate has more to do with lack of shrimp/fish than anything else. We had a really cold winter that delayed shrimp showing up and ended up with more shrimp/specks in lake in a long time. If i remember correctly we used to always have really cold winters when the fishing was good all summer 20 -30 years years ago. Cold winters and hurricanes means good shrimp/speck catches. Just Saying!

Good try but it's obviously Will Drost's fault.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by BuckingFastard

Mind=Blown

RatDog may even be a member of the band, who knows

[BuckingFastard]

as long as he isnt the singer. sometimes he cant put a words together and sometimes he can.... guess that wouldnt be much different from ozzy... wait

[SGib]

The size of the trout in the lake are terribly small. Wading through tons of undersized fish didn't happen pre weirs according to the "fish" tales of my pops and friends.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by BuckingFastard

as long as he isnt the singer. sometimes he cant put a words together and sometimes he can.... guess that wouldnt be much different from ozzy... wait

what if RatDog is Bob Weir?

[BuckingFastard]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

what if RatDog is Bob Weir?

[BuckingFastard]

i think i need Ratdogs autograph

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by BuckingFastard

i think i need Ratdogs autograph

Re read this thread, the autograph you need is right before your eyes.

DuckButter, will you sign my T-Coon's shirt?

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by SGib

The size of the trout in the lake are terribly small. Wading through tons of undersized fish didn't happen pre weirs according to the "fish" tales of my pops and friends.

Why is it that it is always the weirs at fault? Do people really believe that there is one simple explanation in such a complex ecosystem?

If this is in fact true, then the overall condition/size of trout must have progressively dropped since 1988. If that is not the case, then how can the argument be made that the weirs are the single causative factor?

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by homerun

After seeing a really good summer on numbers of fish this summer. Makes me believe climate has more to do with lack of shrimp/fish than anything else. We had a really cold winter that delayed shrimp showing up and ended up with more shrimp/specks in lake in a long time. If i remember correctly we used to always have really cold winters when the fishing was good all summer 20 -30 years years ago. Cold winters and hurricanes means good shrimp/speck catches. Just Saying!

Fishing the last month and a half or so has been good, but it is no more than average for this time of year. However, if you take the last 18 months as a whole, fishing has been poor poor poor. Now I am not blaming the weirs, but when they are shut for long periods of time, it without a doubt effects the migration of shrimp and baitfish from the marsh into the lake.

You speak of fishing being good years ago, if you were at the meeting a couple weeks ago there was a bar graph that showed how many days a year the weirs were open, and they were open more often back then. Yes the winters were cold and wet back then as well, but the fishing during the spring was usually fantastic, with many many big fish being caught. This year, complete opposite of that. Do the weirs being closed directly correlate to bad fishing? Who knows, but it is well worth noting.

I'm over the weir argument, as I believe there are two other bigger issues.

[Duck Butter]

small trout have been the norm for several other areas to our east too this year, but they have been blaming BP the west side blames the weirs, but ..


The way I see it is everything was a month behind this year. Shrimp didn't get the memo this year either as they were late as well. The season on them was late, and everything eats shrimp.


Some folks also need to study up on the life cycle of a shrimp and when they come from the gulf into the marsh and when they leave the marsh and go into the Gulf as they got it backwards

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Goooh

Re read this thread, the autograph you need is right before your eyes.

DuckButter, will you sign my T-Coon's shirt?

tcoon you say?

[Duck Butter]

a couple more i ran across too

pretty sure thats keakar?

[Goooh]

L M A O

["W"]

Ugh


NO

Weirs are still a big problem and not everyone is catching lots of fish


Oysters are still a big problem
Dredging and erosion are still big problems

Just because we are on a little bite don't mean it's all better now !! last year June and July absolutely sucked


So no weirs are still big problem

[T-TOP]

Originally Posted by "W"

Ugh


NO

Weirs are still a big problem and not everyone is catching lots of fish


Oysters are still a big problem
Dredging and erosion are still big problems

Just because we are on a little bite don't mean it's all better now !! last year June and July absolutely sucked


So no weirs are still big problem

I do remember last year being rough also.....


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[SGib]

I didn't say weirs where the only problem smalls. I just used that as a time period I forgot how sensitive you were to that word...