Answering the Libertarian argument for drug legalization

[MissSmallAimsSmall]

"Cross-sectional studies have revealed significant associations between cannabis use and a range of measures of educational performance including lower grade point average, less satisfaction with school, negative attitudes to school, increased rates of school absenteeism and poor school performance....In particular, early cannabis use appears to be associated with the adoption of an anti-conventional lifestyle characterized by affiliations with delinquent and substance using peers, and the precocious adoption of adult roles including early school leaving, leaving the parental home and early parenthood."- The effects of adolescent cannabis use on educational attainment: a review

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Two voters in the poll have advocated reducing penalties for access to minors.

In post #281, Goooh wrote that weed being illegal for Tryann Mathieu (20 at the time Les Miles kicked him off the team) was the cause of his woes rather than the negative effects of cannabis on teenagers.

The inference that marijuana should not have been illegal for the 20 year old was clear.

Maybe some LSU fans did not realize that Tryann Mathieu was only 20 when Les Miles kicked him off of the team and when (two months later) he got into trouble with the law for possession.

All those who really think cannabis use should remain illegal for all teenagers can go ahead and positively affirm the statement:

The athletic and legal consequences for Tryann Mathieu were completely reasonable because he was only 20 at the time and cannabis use should have been illegal for him! He should have known better. I hope drug laws remain strictly enforced for teenagers!

Look we can agree. Kids shouldn't smoke pot. After all those detrimental effects of weed made him a terrible football player.

["W"]

you said weed was not addictive so now your saying it is Clampy?? Must be for someone to smoke a synthetic weed to void s drug test???

So if they are that hard up to smoke a fake drug for a high..."addicted"

[Clampy]

Hey miss smalls. I really wish you would post what treatment site you are copying and pasting from.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by "W"

you said weed was not addictive so now your saying it is Clampy?? Must be for someone to smoke a synthetic weed to void s drug test???

So if they are that hard up to smoke a fake drug for a high..."addicted"

I wanted McDonald's yesterday but they didn't have one close by so I got Burger King. #addicted.

[BassAssasin]

Originally Posted by MissSmallAimsSmall

"Cross-sectional studies have revealed significant associations between cannabis use and a range of measures of educational performance including lower grade point average, less satisfaction with school, negative attitudes to school, increased rates of school absenteeism and poor school performance....In particular, early cannabis use appears to be associated with the adoption of an anti-conventional lifestyle characterized by affiliations with delinquent and substance using peers, and the precocious adoption of adult roles including early school leaving, leaving the parental home and early parenthood."- The effects of adolescent cannabis use on educational attainment: a review

yea kids should not smoke weed.

[MissSmallAimsSmall]

Originally Posted by Clampy

Hey miss smalls. I really wish you would post what treatment site you are copying and pasting from.

The quotes I post were found through Google Scholar and the National Institutes of Health. These lead me to scientific papers published in peer-reviewed medical and health journals.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by "W"

you said weed was not addictive so now your saying it is Clampy?? Must be for someone to smoke a synthetic weed to void s drug test???

So if they are that hard up to smoke a fake drug for a high..."addicted"

Some people just don't like to drink.
If they can catch their buzz and keep their job they will but by calling it Synthetic MJ people assume its safe like real MJ. It's not synthetic pot it's nasty potpourri. This whole argument is for adults to legally have the right to chose a substance safer than alcohol.

["W"]

Clampy loves Pot!!!

Puff Puff Give.....

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by "W"

Clampy loves Pot!!!

Puff Puff Give.....

You got one thing correct.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by MissSmallAimsSmall

The quotes I post were found through Google Scholar and the National Institutes of Health. These lead me to scientific papers published in peer-reviewed medical and health journals.

How's this for scientific papers
Smarter kids do drugs more !


http://www.scientificamerican.com/po...-more-11-11-22

["W"]

Originally Posted by Clampy

How's this for scientific papers
Smarter kids do drugs more !


http://www.scientificamerican.com/po...-more-11-11-22

LSD and Meth heads are great chemist

[Clampy]

We can post counter acting studies all freaking day.
It boils down too should ADULTS be put in a cage for the use of a substance safer than booze ?
They answer is NO

As I'm sure W will point out again that weed is illegal.

[MissSmallAimsSmall]

"Availability of marijuana, which might increase if the drug were legalized, clearly has been shown to affect adolescents' use. Adolescents who have been offered marijuana are 7 times more likely to use it than are those who have not been offered marijuana. Similarly, those who report that marijuana is easy to get are approximately 2.5 times more likely to use it than those who consider it hard to get.

Some advocates for the legalization of marijuana argue that it is safer than alcohol. They suggest that increased use of marijuana by young people might have a positive effect if some adolescents switched from alcohol to marijuana (a substitution effect). This theory cannot be supported by recent studies on adolescent marijuana and alcohol use that incorporated the price of marijuana into the analysis. These studies conclude that an increase in use of marijuana by adolescents would result in an increased use of alcohol (ie, that the 2 drugs are economic complements).

From a public health perspective, even a small increase in use, whether attributable to increased availability or decreased perception of risk, would have significant ramifications. For example, if only an additional 1% of 15- to 19-year-olds in the United States began using marijuana, there would be approximately 190 000 new users." - Legalization of Marijuana: Potential Impact on Youth

[MathGeek]

From 1984 to 1996, the period during which Dutch prosecution of marijuana-related offenses became virtually nonexistent, marijuana use increased consistently and substantially until 1992 while decreasing or remaining stable in other countries. Among 18- to 20-year-olds, the proportion who reported ever having used marijuana increased from 15% to 44%, and the proportion who reported using it within the previous 30 days increased from 8.5% to 18.5%. Use among adolescents in the United States decreased steadily from 1979 to 1992. - - Legalization of Marijuana: Potential Impact on Youth

[Clampy]

"There are currently over 1 million teenage cannabis dealers in the United States and almost 0 teenage alcohol dealers any policy that creates 1million teenage cannabis dealers is bad law"
- journal of common sense and reasoning

[Clampy]

Hey MG if you need advice on how to use a burn handle ask W.

[MathGeek]

Not safer than booze

Psychomotor effects and driving Cannabis produces dose-related impairments in cognitive and behavioural functions that may potentially impair driving a motor vehicle or operating machinery. These impairments are larger and more persistent for difficult tasks that depend on sustained attention The most serious possible consequence of acute cannabis use is a road-traffic accident if a user drives while intoxicated.

The effects of recreational doses of cannabis on driving performance in laboratory simulators and standardised driving courses have been reported by some researchers as being similar to the effects when blood alcohol concentrations are between 0.07% and 0.10%. -- Adverse effects of cannabis

[Clampy]

Yes we have established this. No kids and don't toke and drive. Jeez !

[MathGeek]

Not safer than booze

For over two decades, cannabis, commonly known as marijuana, has been the most widely used illicit drug by young people in high-income countries, and has recently become popular on a global scale. Epidemiological research during the past 10 years suggests that regular use of cannabis during adolescence and into adulthood can have adverse effects. Epidemiological, clinical, and laboratory studies have established an association between cannabis use and adverse outcomes. We focus on adverse health effects of greatest potential public health interest—that is, those that are most likely to occur and to affect a large number of cannabis users. The most probable adverse effects include a dependence syndrome, increased risk of motor vehicle crashes, impaired respiratory function, cardiovascular disease, and adverse effects of regular use on adolescent psychosocial development and mental health. - Adverse effects of cannabis