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Old 03-01-2013, 04:51 PM
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you are just mad your little dink ruler won't work here in TX

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Old 03-01-2013, 05:19 PM
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Like Mathgeek said he didn't even mention the Spill or all the storms that have nailed the east side in the past 8 years. I find it real hard to believe that an estuary the size of Venice could be overfished with a rod and reel.
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Can you see the roit in Grand Isle to Venice with a 6-7 trout limit...L M A O

Again .2 % catches 100% of the fish

Two weeks ago at Hebert (on a saturday ) the girl from WLF was doing a fish count

90 boats ...
3 guides had limit
Us and one other boat had limits ..
Rest were 3-8 trout per boat
that would be 6 or 9% actually depending on your standards not .2%

Im sure there were 90 boats launching from heberts in february
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:34 PM
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that would be 6 or 9% actually depending on your standards not .2%

Im sure there were 90 boats launching from heberts in february
No..... Some from Cal point / Heberts....it was actually in January
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:12 PM
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All this does is penalize the good trout fishermen. This isn't golf. There's no such thing as a handicap to keep everyone "equal", which is what they are trying to do.

They don't consider that, because a bunch of yahoos only caught 6 trout all day, maybe they're just lousy fishermen and that the trout stock is fine.

It's been said a thousand times, 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish...
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All this does is penalize the good trout fishermen. This isn't golf. There's no such thing as a handicap to keep everyone "equal", which is what they are trying to do.

They don't consider that, because a bunch of yahoos only caught 6 trout all day, maybe they're just lousy fishermen and that the trout stock is fine.

It's been said a thousand times, 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish...


100% dead on... You have guys who big motor on reefs , throw anchors, think a pop n cork is the only way , slams boxes in boat, runs TM wide open, castnet on reefs , drives over fishing spot and turns around to fish it

But they catch 2 fish and stocks gone
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:29 PM
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I would also love to see some evidence that the oil spill hurt the trout ..... Because Venice , Cocodrie , V Bay were not effected at all and Lake P
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I think everyone agrees that most of what they base al there numbers on is fuzzy at best.
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I would also love to see some evidence that the oil spill hurt the trout ..... Because Venice , Cocodrie , V Bay were not effected at all and Lake P
I don't know about hard evidence, but we've had one of the best trout years in a while this year.

Trout aren't stupid. All they did was move when all this was going on. They flooded Barataria with the diversions, and the trout and bait moved to higher salinities to the west.

No fish will stay in an area that won't support it.
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I don't know about hard evidence, but we've had one of the best trout years in a while this year.

Trout aren't stupid. All they did was move when all this was going on. They flooded Barataria with the diversions, and the trout and bait moved to higher salinities to the west.

No fish will stay in an area that won't support it.
yep.... but its Bush's fault

And with closing the areas for months from fishing.... Should of stocked up for years
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We've become our own worst enemy. To say that trout fishing is as good as it was 20 years ago is not facing the reality of fishing success, or lack there of, today. The presure placed on our resources of trout is infinitely higher than it was back then. I beleive that fishing presure has indeed impacted the fisheries. BL looks like a parking lot on weekends with all the boats beatin the waters. T Butte can have over 50 boats in a small area on calm days. Diamond not much better. The rigs out of
vermilion looks like LaFonda; you need a number to wait in line to fish live bait. Cocodrie is overcrowded on any given day.There are far more people fishing today than there were in the 80-90s.

History will repeat itself in trout fishing just as it did in bass fishing. There are too many competing for an over fished and over stressed trout population. Again, only my personal observations fishing trout for over forty years. I do agree that 10% of the fishermen out there do catch the majority of the fish. However there are 20 times better fishermen now than there were 20 years ago.

We are the custodians of our resources today. Every effort should be made to acknowledge what problems face our natural resources and act accordingly. Responsibilities lay with us to protect them. We need factual information by our WLF along with coastal scientific studies specific to trout populations made public. I just can't see our trout fishing taking the pounding it has over the past ten years continue without a colapse in this fisheries. Just MHO.....
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:25 PM
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I have servers guide services on my facebook from the east side and during the summer,fall and spring months , they are posting limits of 100-125 trout by 9am almost everyday

No shortage in those locations
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We've become our own worst enemy. To say that trout fishing is as good as it was 20 years ago is not facing the reality of fishing success, or lack there of, today. The presure placed on our resources of trout is infinitely higher than it was back then. I beleive that fishing presure has indeed impacted the fisheries. BL looks like a parking lot on weekends with all the boats beatin the waters. T Butte can have over 50 boats in a small area on calm days. Diamond not much better. The rigs out of
vermilion looks like LaFonda; you need a number to wait in line to fish live bait. Cocodrie is overcrowded on any given day.There are far more people fishing today than there were in the 80-90s.

History will repeat itself in trout fishing just as it did in bass fishing. There are too many competing for an over fished and over stressed trout population. Again, only my personal observations fishing trout for over forty years. I do agree that 10% of the fishermen out there do catch the majority of the fish. However there are 20 times better fishermen now than there were 20 years ago.

We are the custodians of our resources today. Every effort should be made to acknowledge what problems face our natural resources and act accordingly. Responsibilities lay with us to protect them. We need factual information by our WLF along with coastal scientific studies specific to trout populations made public. I just can't see our trout fishing taking the pounding it has over the past ten years continue without a colapse in this fisheries. Just MHO.....
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:38 PM
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I have servers guide services on my facebook from the east side and during the summer,fall and spring months , they are posting limits of 100-125 trout by 9am almost everyday

No shortage in those locations
Right you are W; however, look at what they're catching and how they're catching. Juvenile to maybe 14 inch fish. Guides reluctant to leave landing without live shrimp. Trout that haven't reached spawning age. It's a numbers game as you well know. I'll take 10 fish from BL or VB anyday over what the 25 they catch east of here. Do we really need to be catching 100 trout a day to call it a successful trip. Those guides might be catching a bunch now but look at the other 99.99% of fishermen in those same waters. They're not catching those numbers today like they did years ago.
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Right you are W; however, look at what they're catching and how they're catching. Juvenile to maybe 14 inch fish. Guides reluctant to leave landing without live shrimp. Trout that haven't reached spawning age. It's a numbers game as you well know. I'll take 10 fish from BL or VB anyday over what the 25 they catch east of here. Do we really need to be catching 100 trout a day to call it a successful trip. Those guides might be catching a bunch now but look at the other 99.99% of fishermen in those same waters. They're not catching those numbers today like they did years ago.
I don't know how good Buras area is year round but I see Matt Caire with loads of 3-5lb trout all the time .

I also know that areas farther east have never been known for large trout like grand isle/ cocodrie and parts of Venice


Trout will spawn at least once before reaching legal size of 12inchs . One thing is for sure. They better have solid hard facts before reducing trout limits , because once they go down , they will never come back up.
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I don't know how good Buras area is year round but I see Matt Caire with loads of 3-5lb trout all the time .

I also know that areas farther east have never been known for large trout like grand isle/ cocodrie and parts of Venice


Trout will spawn at least once before reaching legal size of 12inchs . One thing is for sure. They better have solid hard facts before reducing trout limits , because once they go down , they will never come back up.
Never say never....look what they are doing with bass limits. Cajuns will be able to keep 10" bass.
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Size is coming up in cocodrie. Grand isle has always been a 16" fish heaven. Venice size has gone down......used to be known for hogs......who really knows the reasons.....pressure has risen TREMENDOUSLY in he last 7-8 years......thats when the changes started
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Loss of habitat for the young fish has a huge effect as well....
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