Haynie 23 Bigfoot - CCA boat

[LaAngler]

http://www.2coolfishing.com/ttmbforu...d.php?t=236124

looks like a pretty nice rig, maybe underpowered

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by LaAngler

http://www.2coolfishing.com/ttmbforu...d.php?t=236124

looks like a pretty nice rig, maybe underpowered

Yeah you are right on the underpowered aspect. I believe that this is a marketing concept the mfg's and dealers are using to try and sell motor upgrades and increase margins. Every since the motor companies started buying the boat mfg's and packaging their units I have seen this happening. There is noway any 21-22 ft bayboat should have a 150 hanging on the back 2 or 4 stroke, it is the same as a full size truck with a v6.

[Ray]

I was thinking the same thing, but the 21 ft. Haynie is only 1400 lbs., however, the hull area has more drag than a smaller boat. But if you get most of the boat out of the water, again, that is a different story.
If I were going to spend that much money, I would ask the dealer to let me test ride one. If they are a good dealer, that shouldn't be a problem. The you can see where to go from there.
When I bought my boat, some of the cheaper ones had the 115 HP motor on them. The dealer said it was under powered, but he sold more of them cause of the price
difference. I am glad I got the higher HP motor.
I am not a speed freak, but I wanted a comfortable boat and it is comfortable and a
good ride for it's size.

[all star rod]

My concern is more of the motor.....Sorry but I would not buy a new boat unless it had a 4 stroke or a DI motor......More than likely, that is the main reason the boat is priced at that price. On the issue of the 150 with a 21-22' boat....I have a 22' Express X bay boat hyperlift hull with a 150 4 stroke on it. The max rate for it is 200HP if you put on sea star hydraulic steering. I had convservations with someone who has the same boat but with the 200 HPDI and from talking with him he gets 4-6mph more than I get with my 150 four stroke based on the same load.....Suprising, the test Yamaha did with this boat with both motors are pretty accurate to what we are running. Again, nothing wrong with going with max horse power but at times you may not need it unless you want a little more speed. I chose to go with a little less HP due to gettting a 4 stroke over the DI motor...BTW, the dry weight of my boat is 1,700# and I can get 47-50 max with a full load.

[all star rod]

Missed the other post saying it would be upgraded to an Optimax.....Even with a 150 OptimaxI would get it for 28K....However, I would still price it compared to one with a 4 stroke or bigger Opti.

[southern151]

The way I had heard these things talked about here, I thought they'd cost a heckuva lot more... How are they compared to say...SCB's, Boston Whalers or Bay Stealths?

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by R Little

Yeah you are right on the underpowered aspect. I believe that this is a marketing concept the mfg's and dealers are using to try and sell motor upgrades and increase margins. Every since the motor companies started buying the boat mfg's and packaging their units I have seen this happening. There is noway any 21-22 ft bayboat should have a 150 hanging on the back 2 or 4 stroke, it is the same as a full size truck with a v6.

You would be surprised that a lot of 21-22ft boats do fine with 150s on them. Sometimes upgrading to a 200 only gets you a few mph faster and depending on the setup will burn a lot more gas. On most of the lighter hull boats a 150 is perfect unless your into the whole speed thing. Just an example I used to have a 22ft pathfinder and it ran real good with a 150 V-MAX upgraded to a 200 V-MAX and it did gain speed but my gas mileage went to way down. But with the heavier 21-22 footers yes they need at least 200s.

[LaAngler]

21 foot rolled gunwale kenner runs 50 with a 150

[Dink]

Go get it bruce!!! You can store it at my house!!!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BossHog

You would be surprised that a lot of 21-22ft boats do fine with 150s on them. Sometimes upgrading to a 200 only gets you a few mph faster and depending on the setup will burn a lot more gas. On most of the lighter hull boats a 150 is perfect unless your into the whole speed thing. Just an example I used to have a 22ft pathfinder and it ran real good with a 150 V-MAX upgraded to a 200 V-MAX and it did gain speed but my gas mileage went to way down. But with the heavier 21-22 footers yes they need at least 200s.

The next logical step from a 150 would be a 225, not enough difference between 150/200. I don't see the need for mfg's to even make the 200 but there again they are trying to satisfy the boat mfg's. As with trucks, it is not the speed issue that I am concerned with it is the bottom end torque and RPM's needed to develop that torque.

[Hopedale Hustler]

nice rig...it needs that 300 4 stroke though

[LaAngler]

one of the guys on 2cool has one with a 275 verado with the 4 race seats, thing is sweeet.

make mine a 24HO with a 350 verado

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by LaAngler

one of the guys on 2cool has one with a 275 verado with the 4 race seats, thing is sweeet.

make mine a 24HO with a 350 verado

I'll take mine with the 2010 Yamaha 400 HO