2nd crop rice manipulation

[bgizzle]

If a farmer harvested 1st crop and drained the field afterwards.... If you manipulate it then flood the second crop to hunt over it, is it considered baiting? The second crop isn't really heading but is starting to. Most of it(65%) is mostly just green chutes still. He pulled the water off of it to save it for crawfish and will be putting water back on it and his plans are to buffalo it for big duck . Just curious to see if it would be considered baiting if he doesn't harvest the second crop bc he is leaving it for crawfish. Asking for a friend. I know there's a few ppl who know a good bit about this kinda stuff. And GO!


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[Top Dawg]

If the crop is harvestable it would be baiting if he manipulates it. If he floods the standing rice you can hunt it as long as u don't knock it down. But u can let it head and fall in. If the crop is a loss then there are procedure to manage the lost crop and I'm not sure of how that works. I've hunted headed out rice for crawfish and it's unreal. Just gotta flood it to the tops of the rice.

[AubreyLaHaye458]

I've always understood that any "natural farming practice" was legal. Very vague and I've never discussed it with any law dawgs or anything so i don't know. But what we usually do is either shred or plow ponds right before we flood.

The way I see it, which is probably irrelevant, as long as the crop is volunteer I don't see how it could be considered baiting. Now if the farmer went and fertilized and whatnot to produce the second crop but it never got harvested that would be a different story.


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[Dink]

You can "accodentally" knock it down by walking in it.

[Paulox86]

As long as it is a planted crop you can manipulate it in any way you see fit and legally hunt over it.

[bgizzle]

Originally Posted by Paulox86

As long as it is a planted crop you can manipulate it in any way you see fit and legally hunt over it.

Can't say I agree. You cannot plant rice(1st crop)
Then just manipulate it any way you please. It's gotta grow it's natural vegatative life cycle as per LDWF or be harvested before manipulation. This has been harvested but now is just growing back basically wild if you ask me. Bc what was planted has been harvested. I may have unserstood it wrong when I asked a few yrs back. Idk. Thx for input


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[all star rod]

If you harvest your 1st crop you are fine to do what ever you want with your 2nd crop. The GW will not bother you.

[jlincecum]

As long as it is a done in the farming process which prepping for his crawfish crop would be then it is fine. It's all in interpretation, if you can convince the GW that it was done for that and not just to smash crops to hunt over.

[SULPHITE]

Hell I'd throw in some sweet taters and molasses for good measure...

[Paulox86]

Originally Posted by bgizzle

Can't say I agree. You cannot plant rice(1st crop)
Then just manipulate it any way you please. It's gotta grow it's natural vegatative life cycle as per LDWF or be harvested before manipulation. This has been harvested but now is just growing back basically wild if you ask me. Bc what was planted has been harvested. I may have unserstood it wrong when I asked a few yrs back. Idk. Thx for input


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People plant for doves every year and hunt it with no harvest...so hunting ducks over millet is illegal too? Back to my original post.

[Bluechip]

Originally Posted by SULPHITE

Hell I'd throw in some sweet taters and molasses for good measure...

Hell yes!!! Help it stick lol...

[meaux fishing]

http://www.fws.gov/le/waterfowl-hunt...d-baiting.html

[meaux fishing]

Originally Posted by SULPHITE

Hell I'd throw in some sweet taters and molasses for good measure...

We sink our potatoes in burlap sacks all around the blind, and I started brushing with sugar cane instead of roseaus

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by Paulox86

People plant for doves every year and hunt it with no harvest...so hunting ducks over millet is illegal too? Back to my original post.

Planting/baiting for doves and waterfowl are totally different laws.

[H2OFwlKlr]

Everything is good, you just have to buffalo it before it heads out.

Once it heads out, you are not suppose to manipulate it, ie: knock the heads of rice down in the water, making it easier for the ducks to eat.

[bgizzle]

Originally Posted by Paulox86

People plant for doves every year and hunt it with no harvest...so hunting ducks over millet is illegal too? Back to my original post.

Doves and ducks are a totally different ball game. Different rules and regs


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[swamp snorkler]

Originally Posted by meaux fishing

We sink our potatoes in burlap sacks all around the blind, and I started brushing with sugar cane instead of roseaus

Just as soon go to the local pecan peeler and throw them shells away in the pond too. Why send it to the landfill?

[jlincecum]

pecan shells??? haven't heard that one

[swamp snorkler]

Originally Posted by jlincecum

pecan shells??? haven't heard that one

Oh yeah, they have to be crushed really well, don't ask me how I know.

[bbrown]

4 years ago (in NE LA) we had a huge storm that flooded the majority of our wheat beans (late beans). The entire crop was lost right before harvest. We trapped the majority of water for duck season. We had a game warden come in and explain what would be manipulating and what would not be manipulating. He explained that as long as we took the same path in and same path out and did not INTENTIONALLY change the crop around the blind that we would be good. He recommended that we drag decoy bags by hand (once we got to the blind) and try not to drive the ATV around the blind.