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Old 04-28-2015, 05:48 PM
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Lol, I think the drug laws and the war on drugs is for a whole new thread.
Uh yeah.

Selling a substance to consenting adult should hardly be a crime.

Like prostitution. Who cares. Two consenting adults.
All the bad things about prostitution would go away if legal.
Just like most bad things that surround drugs.

I'm patting myself on the back right now for staying out of this as long as I did.
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Old 04-28-2015, 06:08 PM
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I think the big problem is the breakdown of the black family unit and as long as our government is paying these girls approx $1500 a month per child it will only get worse. No father figure in the life of these kids = thugs growing up on the street.
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Old 04-28-2015, 06:32 PM
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Uh yeah.

Selling a substance to consenting adult should hardly be a crime.

Like prostitution. Who cares. Two consenting adults.
All the bad things about prostitution would go away if legal.
Just like most bad things that surround drugs.

I'm patting myself on the back right now for staying out of this as long as I did.
The folks in Colorado may differ in opinion
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:09 PM
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Uh yeah.

Selling a substance to consenting adult should hardly be a crime.

Like prostitution. Who cares. Two consenting adults.
All the bad things about prostitution would go away if legal.
Just like most bad things that surround drugs.

I'm patting myself on the back right now for staying out of this as long as I did.
Here's the problem with that line of thinking...some of these illegal drugs are HIGHLY additive and the dope head needs more and more to get the same buzz. Unless he is independently wealthy he will eventually have to resort to robbery and assault to finance his addiction... If it was legal many many more teens and young adults would try it and get hooked causing them to have to rob steal or kill to get thier fix. Say what you will, but the threat of jail time is deterrent enough for most people
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:18 PM
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Here's the problem with that line of thinking...some of these illegal drugs are HIGHLY additive and the dope head needs more and more to get the same buzz. Unless he is independently wealthy he will eventually have to resort to robbery and assault to finance his addiction... If it was legal many many more teens and young adults would try it and get hooked causing them to have to rob steal or kill to get thier fix. Say what you will, but the threat of jail time is deterrent enough for most people
Exact same argument can be made about alcohol and nicotine.
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:20 PM
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I started of with one joe now I smoke a pack a day and one day it will kill me.

We reduced cig consumption among everyone and it's really down with kids. We didn't arrest one person to do that. I mean they killed Eric Garner but I digress.
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:36 PM
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I started of with one joe now I smoke a pack a day and one day it will kill me.

We reduced cig consumption among everyone and it's really down with kids. We didn't arrest one person to do that. I mean they killed Eric Garner but I digress.
Most cases of cigarette busts that make the news are for smuggling and not paying the taxes, but there is plenty of enforcement for selling to minors also.

http://www.tax.ny.gov/press/rel/2014/almathil062514.htm

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/50-ar...ng-ring/nFJ8P/

http://www.your4state.com/story/d/st...C0iJWWDa5U0ldg

http://www.shenvalleynow.com/news/ar..._of_cigarettes

http://wivb.com/2014/10/09/two-arres...ng-in-buffalo/

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Old 04-28-2015, 07:38 PM
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As it should be but that's not the reason use is down
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I started of with one joe now I smoke a pack a day and one day it will kill me.

We reduced cig consumption among everyone and it's really down with kids. We didn't arrest one person to do that. I mean they killed Eric Garner but I digress.
I smoke two packs a day and kill a 12 pack after work. Why? I'm not ballys enough to put a gun in my mouth so I have an installment plan. Don't smoke dope because it taste like sheeet.
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Uh yeah.

Selling a substance to consenting adult should hardly be a crime.

Like prostitution. Who cares. Two consenting adults.
All the bad things about prostitution would go away if legal.
Just like most bad things that surround drugs.

I'm patting myself on the back right now for staying out of this as long as I did.

Someone mentions drugs and you're always in the conversation....figured you would have moved to Colorado by now.


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Old 04-28-2015, 08:07 PM
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The world would be a better place without lung cancer and achoholism no doubt, but the USA decided long ago that those would be our two legal vices for people to indulge in.... They are addictive and harmful for sure, but people generally wont rob and kill each other for another cigarette.... Now meth, coke, heroin on the other hand....
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I don't think more than 5 people on this site truly see the layers of this argument/problem.
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I don't think more than 5 people on this site truly see the layers of this argument/problem.
The agrument or the argument as you see it? Yes there are good cops and yes there are bad ones. Is police abuse of power an increasing problem? Yes. Is rioting, looting and destuction of property the way to right a wrong? No. Should rioters be shot? Yes. If they are shot they should be shot by people protecting themselves and their businesses.
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Here's the problem with that line of thinking...some of these illegal drugs are HIGHLY additive and the dope head needs more and more to get the same buzz. Unless he is independently wealthy he will eventually have to resort to robbery and assault to finance his addiction... If it was legal many many more teens and young adults would try it and get hooked causing them to have to rob steal or kill to get thier fix. Say what you will, but the threat of jail time is deterrent enough for most people

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The world would be a better place without lung cancer and achoholism no doubt, but the USA decided long ago that those would be our two legal vices for people to indulge in.... They are addictive and harmful for sure, but people generally wont rob and kill each other for another cigarette.... Now meth, coke, heroin on the other hand....

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Old 04-28-2015, 09:23 PM
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The agrument or the argument as you see it? Yes there are good cops and yes there are bad ones. Is police abuse of power an increasing problem? Yes. Is rioting, looting and destuction of property the way to right a wrong? No. Should rioters be shot? Yes. If they are shot they should be shot by people protecting themselves and their businesses.

I agree with most of what you said, but more layers exist.

On a side note, if killing people is the answer to stopping them from committing a crime, wouldn't the cops have won the war on drugs already? Wouldn't there be no more crime in the areas where these cops are killing civilians for petty crimes?

Or, is brute force by either side not the answer at the end of the day? Does this retaliation create more retaliation and so on? Police killing to intimidate and prove a point, rioters rioting to intimidate and prove a point in retaliation, police getting more angry and aggressive, rioters children and LEOs children seeing what's going on and festering in and witnessing the acts that provoke the hate their fathers live with. This cycle never ends, just like the Middle East... It goes on for thousand of years.

That's one layer to add. Now start thinking about how to logically eliminate the problems we are seeing on both sides... Here come the other layers
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Someone mentions drugs and you're always in the conversation....figured you would have moved to Colorado by now.


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Aren't you also in the conversation ?
I love the logic on this site.
If you are in favor of a person's right to do whatever they want to their own body you must be a doper. If you are in favor of gay rights you must be gay. Oh and let's not forget if you don't watch fox news you have got to be libtard.
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