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Old 08-16-2017, 12:31 PM
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I CAN TELL YOULL FIRST HAND,,THIS AINT NO JOKE,,,
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...SujsiDGyx2hHJg
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Old 08-16-2017, 01:35 PM
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"Dead zone" is a great exaggeration for a temporary region of hypoxic bottom water.

It's nothing but a liberal power play to exert a lot more government control over agriculture. Rather than restricting fertilizers with bigger government, a more effective approach would be to stop propping up ethanol with government mandates and let the free market reduce fertilizer usage.

There is compelling evidence that Gulf productivity is actually greatly enhanced by nutrient loading:

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1306/1306.5114.pdf

Do Louisiana fishermen really want to give up all the real, proven benefits of nutrient loading for the hypothetical negatives of temporary bottom water hypoxia?

There is also positive proof that the doomsaying predictions are exaggerated:

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1307/1307.8064.pdf

Further, there is positive proof government agencies are supporting their exaggerated claims with misleading information:

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1306/1306.5366.pdf

The Gulf of Mexico is alive and well. Cherry picking small volumes where hypoxia is present for a couple weeks some summers should not convince any thinking person otherwise.
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Old 08-16-2017, 03:15 PM
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"Dead zone" is a great exaggeration for a temporary region of hypoxic bottom water.

It's nothing but a liberal power play to exert a lot more government control over agriculture. Rather than restricting fertilizers with bigger government, a more effective approach would be to stop propping up ethanol with government mandates and let the free market reduce fertilizer usage.

There is compelling evidence that Gulf productivity is actually greatly enhanced by nutrient loading:

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1306/1306.5114.pdf

Do Louisiana fishermen really want to give up all the real, proven benefits of nutrient loading for the hypothetical negatives of temporary bottom water hypoxia?

There is also positive proof that the doomsaying predictions are exaggerated:

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1307/1307.8064.pdf

Further, there is positive proof government agencies are supporting their exaggerated claims with misleading information:

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1306/1306.5366.pdf

The Gulf of Mexico is alive and well. Cherry picking small volumes where hypoxia is present for a couple weeks some summers should not convince any thinking person otherwise.
MG...you are really pissing off Sylvia Earle with those inconvenient truths!

Thanks for posting.
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:16 PM
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I'm interested in the first hand experience...and response
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:16 AM
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I didn't hear about the dead zone until some buddies out of Venice told me about it ,,,we were catching our snapper easily in this one spot or 2 every trip and every season for years
Then about 2 weeks ago , we go out and all I see is millions of jelleys over the snapper grounds, it was weird
I didn't mark a fish nor did we catch one , first time this has ever happens
Then some spear guys go down and said it was weird looking Dead Sea looking water they never seen
So I tried to put the politics behind me and research for first time and found this article saying:

"The present gulf Dead zone causing hypoxia in gulf waters flush bottom fish , shrimp, bait fish out and a large presence of jelly fish in , as squid and jelly fish move to waters with less oxygen and no presence of predator fish taking advantage of dead zone waters"

Honestly ,I can't say this is what happened , but man it sure was coincidental
It was weird
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:27 PM
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It doesn't go deeper than 120 ft. I think it starts around 30 ft. That's what a marine biologist told me.
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