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Old 11-25-2009, 12:08 AM
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sunday i shot a 6 point at 40 yards with my browning bar2 safari with a 50mm nikon monarch 2 scope at 4o yards dropped in its tracks. deer got up and now cannot find it. so today i shot a 150lb spike at 100 yards dropped it and she got up and leaked no blood and had to get a dog to track her for 70 yards from where i shot her. found 4 drops of blood. had to search for thr entrance wound and the bullet did not even go all the way through the deer, i am shooting 150 grain ballistic tips. finally found the entrace wound and it was a perfect clean shot right behind the shoulder. so yeah i am going to a 165 or 180 grain bowtie bullet cause something has got to give. anysuggestions out there
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:28 AM
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sunday i shot a 6 point at 40 yards with my browning bar2 safari with a 50mm nikon monarch 2 scope at 4o yards dropped in its tracks. deer got up and now cannot find it. so today i shot a 150lb spike at 100 yards dropped it and she got up and leaked no blood and had to get a dog to track her for 70 yards from where i shot her. found 4 drops of blood. had to search for thr entrance wound and the bullet did not even go all the way through the deer, i am shooting 150 grain ballistic tips. finally found the entrace wound and it was a perfect clean shot right behind the shoulder. so yeah i am going to a 165 or 180 grain bowtie bullet cause something has got to give. anysuggestions out there
Remington core lokt....If they do run off, I guarantee you it will leave a blood trail with a core lokt through it....
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:55 AM
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I agree.......I have shot the Core-locks for 20+ years in my .243.

I don't know why so many people spend a lot more money on bullets that don't always get the job done.

Over the years, I have made a few "missed placed" shots, but the bullet still killed the deer. A few years ago, I shot a Buck while it was moving fairly fast. I stopped it once, but could not get a shot. It would not stop again and I took the shot in the next opening. The bullet hit high....between the lungs and the Backstrap. What would expect the out come of this shot....with "only" a 100 gr .243 cal. rifle @ 60 yd distance?

The 150 lb buck dropped like a rock......and never moved.

The exception might be for shooting long range [250+ yard ???]. The rough looking tip on the Core-lock bullets, just dosen't look like it would be accurate at longer distances.
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Old 11-25-2009, 02:57 AM
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ballistic tips have problems delivering full impact because of bullet fragmentation (failure) . I got two words for you, Core Lokt
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:16 AM
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Core Lokts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Same here had to make a friend change from the plastic tips because we would always have to track down his deer. He was making good shots but never knocked down any of his deer. He hit one in the front shoulder and the bullet broke up into a million pieces and most of them didnt make it out of the shoulder. Core lokts is what he uses now and the last 3 dropped right where he shot them.
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Old 11-25-2009, 08:47 AM
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Same here had to make a friend change from the plastic tips because we would always have to track down his deer. He was making good shots but never knocked down any of his deer. He hit one in the front shoulder and the bullet broke up into a million pieces and most of them didnt make it out of the shoulder. Core lokts is what he uses now and the last 3 dropped right where he shot them.
My uncles can't get it through their heads why we always have to track their deer for hours but mine either drop in their tracks or go about 15 yards then fall. The differences: They shoot 30-06's with ballistic tips and I shoot a 270 with Core Lokts...
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Old 11-25-2009, 09:53 AM
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Not knockin the core lokts, but i have never lost a deer shooting ballistic tips. The furthest I ever had to track one was about 25 yds. Last year I shot the winchester XP3 balliisitic tip 130 gr, and dropped two in their tracks. Different strokes I guess. I shoot a .270. I'll let ya'll know after the weekend how they perform again.
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I've just always had luck with the Core Lokts so I never changed. Why mess with a good thing??
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:35 AM
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head shot will do it everytime...........
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wont have to track with a head shot...
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That's how I try to shoot my does if I can. But for the bucks I shoot em not to mess up the horns just incase
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Old 11-25-2009, 11:19 AM
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Quick question...

My brother shoots 130 gr. ballistic tips in his .270, if he changes bullets to a non ballistic tip but stays with the same grain, will it affect his shot? My dad just called and he only has 1 bullet left for his rifle and we can't find any .270 ballistic tips anywhere, just Federal Premiums.
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I've done it before, but I would shoot a couple first to check accuracy.
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I've done it before, but I would shoot a couple first to check accuracy.
Guns are like people some like this & some like that & some like it all.
It could be another name brand of ballistic tip & the gun may not group at all. Be sure & shoot several rounds through it anytime you change anything!
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Old 11-25-2009, 11:40 AM
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Thanks guys, that's what I thought. I was finally able to find a couple of boxes at Academy.
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Old 11-25-2009, 02:29 PM
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IMO.....any bullet can be used for a shot under 100 yards and will not change the "point of impact" enough to make any difference when shooting a deer.

All bullets [of the same weight] will hit about the same spot.....probably less than 2" difference at 100 yards.
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guys thanks for the info and believe tonight i will be going to buy a box of core lokt bullets. and i am gonna bump up to a 165 grain instead of the 150 grain. this has been a very informative thread for me. thanks to all.
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Old 11-25-2009, 02:44 PM
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guys thanks for the info and believe tonight i will be going to buy a box of core lokt bullets. and i am gonna bump up to a 165 grain instead of the 150 grain. this has been a very informative thread for me. thanks to all.
Before I bought my .243 cal rifle many years ago......I shot a small deer with a 30-06 that I borrowed. I don't know what size bullet it was.....it was big. What I remember most was how badly the meat was tore up . IMO....It was "way over kill" for what was needed.
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