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Old 04-10-2014, 02:29 PM
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Are you dredging the navigable waterway between markers, or is this an offshoot of the channel or an easement owned by your company?

Industry does not pay or manage dredging of waterways like ICW or ship channels... Just like Judice in can't decide to just re-do Johnston street in front of their restaurant, but can do whatever they want with the parking lot.

Dredge the channel in front of our docks.
Never said that industry manages, schedules or determines when to dredge. They just pay for usage of channel that goes towards dredging of channel.


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Old 04-10-2014, 03:00 PM
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How far is it from Big Lake to Sabine by boat?
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:22 PM
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Soo Raymond

Simple Yes or No question


Does the the CCA have right now a plan or action to stop dredging or start reseeding of oysters?? Right Now
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How far is it from Big Lake to Sabine by boat?
26.2 nautical mi from jetty to jetty


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Dredge the channel in front of our docks.
Never said that industry manages, schedules or determines when to dredge. They just pay for usage of channel that goes towards dredging of channel.


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You've repeated used the words "ship channel" when claiming industry pays for dredging.
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Yes, I have. They pay. What are you talking about?? This is a dumb A$$ argument.... Do you honestly believe that all the industry using the "ship channel" are not being made to maintain the depth??? Not being charged by the government to use it?? C'mon man.. Think about it.


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Yes, I have. They pay. What are you talking about?? This is a dumb A$$ argument.... Do you honestly believe that all the industry using the "ship channel" are not being made to maintain the depth??? Not being charged by the government to use it?? C'mon man.. Think about it.


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You think about it. You say they pay to dredge the ship channel, the. When someone stands you up you come out and say you meantime they lay to dredge their dock channel.

Think about it. Industry doesn't pay to dredge the channel, they dredge their "parking lot".
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:40 PM
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26.2 nautical mi from jetty to jetty


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Is nautical miles different from regular miles?


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Thanks Raymond. Please ask yourselves this question. Who has done more than CCA? Although we may not agree with everything that CCA endorses the bottom line is that CCA has done more in our lifetimes to benefit our fisheries than any other group or organization. I live in Texas and am involved here and I know first hand that they listen. There are great minds here and all you need to do is get off the keyboard and get involved!
Did you go to the meeting at the port Arthur public library about the proposed trout and flounder regulations? Nothing voiced at that meeting was represented by cca when it came time to support or align against the proposals that just cut our trout limits in half. I am very involved and have been for quite some time. The rich elitist fly fishermen from the lower Laguna madre have finally convinced the majority of joe six packs through the aid of cca that a 5 trout limit is what makes sense. Too many blindly follow anything cca supports because of a few good things they did 20years ago.
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Ok, gooh last one. We pay 100% to dredge our area of the channel in front of our dock.

For every ship that uses the channel. There is a fee paid. If the ship is being used to transport purchased oil to say ConocoPhillips that would be the company that pays the fees. Now, those fees are used to dredge maintain and expand the channel. It's really not difficult, we on the same page now??


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Old 04-10-2014, 09:09 PM
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Ok, gooh last one. We pay 100% to dredge our area of the channel in front of our dock.

For every ship that uses the channel. There is a fee paid. If the ship is being used to transport purchased oil to say ConocoPhillips that would be the company that pays the fees. Now, those fees are used to dredge maintain and expand the channel. It's really not difficult, we on the same page now??


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Old 04-10-2014, 09:13 PM
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Can we just gets some damn rocks at wash out and 9mile

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Ok, gooh last one. We pay 100% to dredge our area of the channel in front of our dock.

For every ship that uses the channel. There is a fee paid. If the ship is being used to transport purchased oil to say ConocoPhillips that would be the company that pays the fees. Now, those fees are used to dredge maintain and expand the channel. It's really not difficult, we on the same page now??


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Show me a map of this "channel" you dredge. Because in sure the corp just lets your company call up the nearest dredge and start digging away on a verbal PO.

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You have to be drunk or something....


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You must have never attended a real meeting on dredging navigable waterways.
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You have to be drunk or something....


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Lousy blow...


Anyway, you stated that industry funds dredging of the channel which just isn't true. And you can't argue that, so then you switched to "I saw a flyer by the water cooler showing how much we paid to dredge". Then said "well, I meant in front of our dock". Which really means you don't pay Jack squat for dredging in between the little red and green markers, but just pay to keep your dock deep enough to shove a ship against to load/unload cargo.

The blanket statement that the entire channel between the markers is maintained by LC industry funds is 100% untrue. The money comes from taxes levied on the shipping companies coming into port.


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