There goes the slot

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[jopete]

the whole logic behind the slot limits was flawed in the first place. they were imposed at the whim of the bass fisherman so they could justify their small penis's.

apparently it did not work. lol

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by jopete

the whole logic behind the slot limits was flawed in the first place. they were imposed at the whim of the bass fisherman so they could justify their small penis's.

apparently it did not work. lol

So what, if you were in the slot you were viewed as "acceptable"? lmao!!

I never did understand the point of a slot. I get that they are excluding fish within a certain size range from harvest, but why? Why was the 14"-17" size chosen on those lakes?

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by jopete

the whole logic behind the slot limits was flawed in the first place. they were imposed at the whim of the bass fisherman so they could justify their small penis's.

apparently it did not work. lol

Dead animal?

[saodma]

Well I see this as a sad day for Vernon. The lake is great and in a few years will be just another Bun****s or Anacoco. Small fish will be the norm. There are plenty of placed to catch a mess to eat. Slots do work just look at Lake Fork. It is funny that Mississippi, Texas and Arkansas all have better Bass fishing for size than LA. We can not manage fish to save our lives. Vernon needed more forage not a no size 10 fish limit.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by saodma

Well I see this as a sad day for Vernon. The lake is great and in a few years will be just another Bun****s or Anacoco. Small fish will be the norm. There are plenty of placed to catch a mess to eat. Slots do work just look at Lake Fork. It is funny that Mississippi, Texas and Arkansas all have better Bass fishing for size than LA. We can not manage fish to save our lives. Vernon needed more forage not a no size 10 fish limit.

But if they were leaving too many fish, which sounds like the reason for the change, couldn't that be a reason for insufficient forage? What is easier to do, directly increase forage by releasing 1000s of minnows and other bait fish? Or removing the slot limit and allowing any fish to be kept?

[Top Dawg]

Well if it means smaller fish then everyone will quit *****in about ppl keepin big ones.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Smalls

But if they were leaving too many fish, which sounds like the reason for the change, couldn't that be a reason for insufficient forage? What is easier to do, directly increase forage by releasing 1000s of minnows and other bait fish? Or removing the slot limit and allowing any fish to be kept?

Right. One scientific requirement for slot limits to be effective is that there needs to be sufficient forage (relative to the population) for individuals to maintain fast growth rates.

If growth rates are limited by lack of forage, slots don't work because most of the population can end up stunted.

Another scientific requirement for slots to be effective is that mortality within the population needs to be dominated by harvest. If non-harvest factors dominate mortality, restrictive slot limits don't preserve individuals to breed or be harvested later at a larger size, but to die of some non-harvest cause instead of being enjoyed on the table.

[saodma]

All I am saying is 10 fish no size is not an answer. I have no issue with people eating fish. That is what they are here for. I do have issues with no management at all. 10 fish no size limit is not management in my mind. Vernon is a much better lake to fish than Bun****s or Anancoco. Now Vernon will just be another Anancoco. On vernon you can catch 20 to 30 bass better than 14 inches easy and you have a shot a big fish. Can not remember a trip there without catching at least 1 fish better than 5 lbs. I have lived and fished in other states. La is one of the worst for catching big Bass. I love teh state but we need better fish management.

[Feesherman]

Originally Posted by saodma

I have no issue with people eating fish. That is what they are here for.

Weird I said the same exact thing the other day and my post was deleted

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by saodma

All I am saying is 10 fish no size is not an answer. I have no issue with people eating fish. That is what they are here for. I do have issues with no management at all. 10 fish no size limit is not management in my mind. Vernon is a much better lake to fish than Bun****s or Anancoco. Now Vernon will just be another Anancoco. On vernon you can catch 20 to 30 bass better than 14 inches easy and you have a shot a big fish. Can not remember a trip there without catching at least 1 fish better than 5 lbs. I have lived and fished in other states. La is one of the worst for catching big Bass. I love teh state but we need better fish management.

But the point remains that the issue was too many small fish left. You cant leave a bunch of fish in the water and expect to grow big fish. Why are they leaving too many small fish? Something about the slot limit was not working apparently.

If you aren't going to stock forage species, then you have to take more fish out. It seems the issue WAS the FACT that you could catch so many 14" or greater. Well, if you are catching 10 fish, and 8 of those are between 14" and 17", you are leaving 80% of the fish in the lake. If you don't have enough forage to support that, you aren't going to grow big fish.

[Smalls]

And as far as Texas goes, over half of the Top 50 largest Largemouth Bass caught in the state have been on Lake Fork, which is stocked with Florida Strain Largemouth Bass. You are going to get bigger fish when you have Florida Strain running through there, and you have a small enough population that the forage will allow larger fish.

If you aren't taking enough fish out, you aren't going to get big fish. Simple as that. If you have 100 fish sharing a limited resource, you are going to get smaller fish than if 50 fish are sharing the same amount of resources.