35 Wheelen

[seapro21]

Anybody have any experience with the 35 Whelen? Just wanted to get some opinions before i did, any likes or dis-likes, brands, ammo etc.

thanks

[shellman]

My brother has one...only problem is it kicks like hellz...seems to be accurate....

[Montauk17]

Best gun for "primitive" IMO....can be used all gun season with no problems shooting the longer ranges. If I did not already have a 45-70 that would be the caliber I would buy. The kick factor should not be a issue for a adult....my 10 year old brother can shoot my 45-70 and they pack a punch.

[wtretrievers]

We have 2 H&R .35 Whelens & CVA stalker elite in .35 W, the CVA is a lot easier on the shoulder. The H&R's kick like a damn mule! They make my lead sled jump off the table. We shoot Rem core lokts 200gr with no issues.

[seapro21]

Thanks

I think i am going to pick one up for next year, seems to be the better gun for the longer shots.

[Dink]

444? I hear they shoot real flat and the kick isnt as bad

[bgizzle]

CVA apex .35w is all my ppl use at camp. They use it all the time. I got a 50cal muzzle loader for sale still in box. CVA buckhorn. If interested pm

[Montauk17]

Originally Posted by Dink

444? I hear they shoot real flat and the kick isnt as bad

I have a CVA optima elite 45-70 and my gpaw has the same gun in .444....both guns shoot damn near identical. Shoot a deer with either one and they won't go far!

[Wide Open]

Man I'm having terrible accuracy issues, with not 1 but 2 cva apex's in 35 whelen!

[Dink]

Try shooting sober.....thats where I was going wrong too

[Wide Open]

Originally Posted by Dink

Try shooting sober.....thats where I was going wrong too

Lol! Nah Dink! I wish this was the case I've got a half a dozen other rifles that will clover leaf off the same sandbags @ 100yds sober or drunk, in fact when I'm half drunk my shootin gets better I'm a Lil more relaxed

[Wide Open]

There was another guy on here a couple months ago that said he had bad accuracy with the apex in the 35 whelen! ( 6 in. Groups) They installed an oversized hingepin and he claims it solved his problems!

[wtretrievers]

Originally Posted by Wide Open

There was another guy on here a couple months ago that said he had bad accuracy with the apex in the 35 whelen! ( 6 in. Groups) They installed an oversized hingepin and he claims it solved his problems!

What the Sam hell does a oversized hinge pin have to do with accuracy??? Especially fixing a 6" group?

I know the 2 H&Rs in Whelen we have do not like the Hornady Superformance. Maybe a 6" group, They like the 200 gr Core lokts,
The CVA stalker shoots the Superformance well, haven't tried core lokts in it.

[Wide Open]

Google cva apex 35 whelen accuracy issues, there a few other that claim the same!
There's a guy named mike bell the produces the pins for cva's and Thompson centers!
Mike bellm . Com I belive! There's a market for them soo maybe it is an issue!
The claim is to much slack in the hinge area cause poor accuracy with not having a solid bacwall to fire on!
Now I do have 2 h&rs 45-70's that r flat out shooters at 100-200!

[Wide Open]

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Any looseness at the hinge pin results in less than optimum accuracy. Tighten up the fit at the hinge pin, and accuracy nearly always improves.
A snug fit at the hinge is essential to best accuracy.

A barrel that shakes and rattles cannot be expected to place shots in the same place each time. You would not accept a bolt action rifle with a loose barrel, so why be expected to settle for a loose barrel on a break open gun?

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Muzzle loader barrels? I have been particularly impressed with the results from muzzle loader barrels, even though muzzle loader barrels do not subject the gun to anything near the stress the cartridge barrels do.

Are you willing to accept a loose barrel fit? There are tens of thousands of shooters using our oversize hinge pins that would strongly disagree with the under size hinge pins and loose hinge fit coming from the factories.

There are now 2 sizes of APEX pins so that if one size is not quite large enough, you go to the next larger size. Start with the 1x size. If the 1x size is not large enough, move up to the 2x size.

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Simply install factory pin first with a GOOD QUALITY heavy oil to lubricate the holes and prevent galling when you tap in the oversize pin. The factory pin serves as a guide pin to keep all three holes aligned while you tap in the oversize pin.
Some degree of force is necessary since you are upgrading the fit from what is known as a "slip fit" to an "interference fit".

A small steel hammer is fine, though some prefer to use a soft face hammer such as made from brass. I only use a small jewelers type steel hammer, myself. If it takes more force than this, then reaming may be necessary for one or two holes.

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