Wiers Opening?

[Salty]

Originally Posted by "W"

Im sure you missed this in duck grass school but I bet you can understand what happens when you alter the echo system by killing off millions on millions of shrimp

HELLO...........Hello.........Hello........Hello........Hello........hello

[homerun]

I hunted within site of weirs this weekend. there is a ton of shrimp back there. canals and ponds are full of shrimp jumping behind boat. they are thriving back there

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by huntin fool

Nick was saying the marsh doesn't freeze. I just simply wanted to prove him wrong. Why would he get involved in a thread on our (those who do fish Calcasieu lake) weirs when he is completely wrong on the marsh "freezing". He ( Nick ) didn't point out like others the September issue. He stated as a whole the marsh won't freeze.

Carry on Butter

No need to state the September issue, it was obvious the time frame we were speaking on.
We are talking about the impact of a marsh freezing and devastating shrimp population/migrations(Fall/Mid Sept-Mid Dec).

Yes, the marsh can freeze, but the likelihood of it freezing is very minimal.....and then freeze early enough to impact the shrimp migration or population is minimal to zero. I have to believe that your very rare one time picture of a frozen N wind blown marsh was taken long after the shrimp migration.

Secondly, at what point can I start to call the lake mine too? Must I own a certain boat? Maybe a Haynie, a Kenner, or a 20' Tunnel Hull with a tiller? A certain motor? Maybe throw a Tohatsu or Nissan on my tunnel hull? Just trying to do it right man, let me know!

Go fish Matagorda if you like Texas so much, must have been a rough weekend for you....sorry, not sorry.
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["W"]

Originally Posted by homerun

I hunted within site of weirs this weekend. there is a ton of shrimp back there. canals and ponds are full of shrimp jumping behind boat. they are thriving back there

No doubt...I have a vid of reds stacked up by hundreds behind Grand Sat

Maybe on my 5th attempt to load on u tube it might take so i can post it


But with out rain and open gates for them to migrate out, 1st freeze they gone

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by "W"

No doubt...I have a vid of reds stacked up by hundreds behind Grand Sat

Maybe on my 5th attempt to load on u tube it might take so i can post it


But with out rain and open gates for them to migrate out, 1st freeze they gone

I agree with this, but will say that the gates should be open by the time temperature is a relevant hazard.

I will also say that after living on the other side of the state for years the impact saltwater has on a marsh without a barrier system (whether it be weirs, levees, or islands) is truly devastating. My family has been on a 10 square mile lease for the last 50 years and the marsh is 75% gone. I used to hunt pot holes that are now lakes. Every year we rebuild blinds because the land the blinds used to sit on has receded 20 yds.They have recently built the giant wall, and opened the Caernarvon Canal to pump fresh water and silt in from the Mississippi but it is way too little too late. The Gulf is knocking on the back door of land that used to be very high and dry. To see La wetlands dissappear like that is disheartening.

I understand the struggle of crabbers and shrimpers, I was one for 3 years and grew up in the seafood sales industry. There are other places to catch shrimp and other areas that marine life lives then behind the weirs though.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Nickt87

I agree with this, but will say that the gates should be open by the time temperature is a relevant hazard.

I will also say that after living on the other side of the state for years the impact saltwater has on a marsh without a barrier system (whether it be weirs, levees, or islands) is truly devastating. My family has been on a 10 square mile lease for the last 50 years and the marsh is 75% gone. I used to hunt pot holes that are now lakes. Every year we rebuild blinds because the land the blinds used to sit on has receded 20 yds.They have recently built the giant wall, and opened the Caernarvon Canal to pump fresh water and silt in from the Mississippi but it is way too little too late. The Gulf is knocking on the back door of land that used to be very high and dry. To see La wetlands dissappear like that is disheartening.

I understand the struggle of crabbers and shrimpers, I was one for 3 years and grew up in the seafood sales industry. There are other places to catch shrimp and other areas that marine life lives then behind the weirs though.

You are talking about two different monsters .....9o% of the east erosion is from changing water ways to build cites underwater level

Here on west side do not have a marsh erosion problem and our marshes were top shelf before Rita and Ike

Our east side Marshes are not in any kind of close gate choke off lake problem

This coming from guys who hunt, fish and live off that marsh along with a biologist

[slickfish]

Originally Posted by "W"

Maybe on my 5th attempt to load on u tube it might take so i can post it

Are you really admitting your not that smart? What I'm thinking i read your post. Enough said.

["W"]

Originally Posted by slickfish

Are you really admitting your not that smart? What I'm thinking i read your post. Enough said.

Smart is knowing this is your #87 post and 86 have been about me

Lmao

Pretty much own you !! I guess I can now add you to Club "W"

Salty
Rene (ASR)
And now SlickFish

Welcome to the club!! You have now comment and quoted 99.999 % of your comments towards me

Send me your shirt size and I will have your club "W" start up kit in mail ASAP

[Kenner18]

In 2003 and 2011 our entire marsh froze for more than one day ,so yes a freeze has occurred twice in the past ten years in our area. Both years had temps in the 20's .

Widgeon grass can survive in salinity as high as 30 ppt ,while currently Big Lake is running around 21 ppt.

I have fished Big Lake for at least 12 yrs now and this has been the worst year I can recall as far as catches ,for whatever the reason .

I truly believe man should not fool with what nature created. I grew up fishing Black Bayou in the Vinton area . Bass fishing was spectacular until man decided to block off cuts into the area . Along came hurricane rita and filled the marshes with saltwater ,which had no escape due to the blockages man created . Now most of the areas where bass once were are inhabited by redfish .

Im no marine biologist .These are just things I have seen with my own eyes that have occurred in the past twenty or so years in our area.

[huntin fool]

Originally Posted by Kenner18

In 2003 and 2011 our entire marsh froze for more than one day ,so yes a freeze has occurred twice in the past ten years in our area. Both years had temps in the 20's.

^^^^

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

No Mr 6 trout catching guide You are going to have to actually fish this month and find the trout out of their 'normal' patterns

3-5 months is a long time away


How many times did you complain to your customers about the wiers?


customers:
'Mr., what about this '25 or bust'

W to his customers:
'bruh, if these wiers was open we would be catching limits in an hour'

customers:
'we don't care bout that, we just want to catch fish'

W:
'look bros, we only fish artificial on this boat cuz I can't throw a castnet and i refuse to buy live shrimp and I refuse to go to Sabine. All my logbooks say the fish should be here this time of year so we are going to fish here'

customers:
'can't we go catch redfish or something?'

W:
'naw brah, redfish are an inferior species of fish, only people who can't catch trout try to catch redfish'

customers:
'well sir, you are apparently one of those 'people who can't catch trout'

That is F'n funny I dont care who you are

[Spunt Drag]

Originally Posted by Kenner18

In 2003 and 2011 our entire marsh froze for more than one day ,so yes a freeze has occurred twice in the past ten years in our area. Both years had temps in the 20's .

Widgeon grass can survive in salinity as high as 30 ppt ,while currently Big Lake is running around 21 ppt.

I have fished Big Lake for at least 12 yrs now and this has been the worst year I can recall as far as catches ,for whatever the reason .

I truly believe man should not fool with what nature created. I grew up fishing Black Bayou in the Vinton area . Bass fishing was spectacular until man decided to block off cuts into the area . Along came hurricane rita and filled the marshes with saltwater ,which had no escape due to the blockages man created . Now most of the areas where bass once were are inhabited by redfish .

Im no marine biologist .These are just things I have seen with my own eyes that have occurred in the past twenty or so years in our area.

It can survive for what extended period of time?

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["W"]

Originally Posted by SULPHITE

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Marsh dont freeze as per Duck Butt and Nick

[slickfish]

Originally Posted by "W"

Smart is knowing this is your #87 post and 86 have been about me

Lmao

Pretty much own you !! I guess I can now add you to Club "W"

Salty
Rene (ASR)
And now SlickFish

Welcome to the club!! You have now comment and quoted 99.999 % of your comments towards me

Send me your shirt size and I will have your club "W" start up kit in mail ASAP

Bothered much?

[Salty]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

That is F'n funny I dont care who you are

This is THE post of 2013. Maybe even the best one "cents" the beginning of this site. It's not only hilarious...........it's TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[duckman1911]

Do I get a SC cash bonus for that one? Lol

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by Kenner18

In 2003 and 2011 our entire marsh froze for more than one day ,so yes a freeze has occurred twice in the past ten years in our area. Both years had temps in the 20's .

Widgeon grass can survive in salinity as high as 30 ppt ,while currently Big Lake is running around 21 ppt.

I have fished Big Lake for at least 12 yrs now and this has been the worst year I can recall as far as catches ,for whatever the reason .

I truly believe man should not fool with what nature created. I grew up fishing Black Bayou in the Vinton area . Bass fishing was spectacular until man decided to block off cuts into the area . Along came hurricane rita and filled the marshes with saltwater ,which had no escape due to the blockages man created . Now most of the areas where bass once were are inhabited by redfish .

Im no marine biologist .These are just things I have seen with my own eyes that have occurred in the past twenty or so years in our area.

Not saying a freeze won't happen. I AM SAYING A FREEZE WILL NOT OCCUR DURING THE TIME THAT SHRIMP ARE STILL IN THE MARSHES. But hey if you think that out of 10 years, 4 days of frozen marsh and a very slight possibility that the weirs weren't open that fall is worth talking about out of the other 3,646 days of saltwater intrusion then so be it.

As far as those blockages you speak of, I agree they should be allowed to drain as well. Very likely that if those blockages weren't there you would have probably been catching reds much sooner than Rita. A couple tropical storms and high tides and that area would have been eaten up with the salt much sooner.

It's the big picture..... risk vs reward. I'm sure when the salinity levels are too high the biologist aren't giving 2 *****s that W can't go throw his cast net at the weirs or take his customers to go catch some reds! Thousands of acres of coastal protection is priority.

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by huntin fool

^^^^

Jesus help us, his name is Kenner and you have a tohatsu in your avatar. :*****: Living by the code, respect is given when respect is due.

[Nickt87]

Originally Posted by "W"

You are talking about two different monsters .....9o% of the east erosion is from changing water ways to build cites underwater level

Here on west side do not have a marsh erosion problem and our marshes were top shelf before Rita and Ike

Our east side Marshes are not in any kind of close gate choke off lake problem

This coming from guys who hunt, fish and live off that marsh along with a biologist

Not 2 different monsters....one monster, saltwater. Without the MS River flooding it's banks and depositing it's alluvial soil(go google the word) and pushing the salt water out of the marshes the saltwater has a perfect avenue in. The marsh behind the weirs was not created to hold that amount of salt. Due to man made avenues the saltwater comes in more freely, and the weirs allow us to regulate it.

Some people are paid to think, and the rest...well the rest just wish they were.