SaltyCajun.com http://cajunrodandreelrepair.com/

Notices

Go Back   SaltyCajun.com > General Discussion Forums > General Discussion (Everything Else)

General Discussion (Everything Else) Discuss anything that doesn't belong in any other forums here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-15-2018, 03:32 PM
duckman1911's Avatar
duckman1911 duckman1911 is offline
Sailfish
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Otis
Posts: 4,194
Cash: 5,193
Default Ok why?

Was reading an article on fb about 3 reaturaunts in our area that got busted for selling Swai instead of catfish even though the menu sold it as catfish. The citations were isuued buy the wlfd. Why would they be concerened with that or have a legal juristicion? Chineese catfish or Amercan catfish they are all farm raised for market no different than cattle. Why are the possom cops involved?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-15-2018, 04:07 PM
DVM's Avatar
DVM DVM is offline
Flounder
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New Iberia
Posts: 83
Cash: 1,262
Default

I read a short article about the imported Swai. It seems like most imported Swai come from Vietnam and are grown in ponds that are treated with high levels of antibiotics to keep them alive. The fish in most ponds whether in USA or elsewhere are stressed because the density is so high. The stressed condition leads to more disease and need for antibiotics. Further, the conditions in US ponds have some regulations concerning safety and water quality that do not exist in Vietnam. Overuse of antibiotics in any kind of meat contributes to bacterial resistance which is not a good thing. When I go to a restaurant and order catfish, I am thinking that I am purchasing Channel or Blue catfish, probably farmed in a pond in Mississippi, not in Vietnam with uncertain safety regulations. Swai is actually not a catfish but is marketed as one.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-15-2018, 04:20 PM
papap papap is offline
Tripletail
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Arthur
Posts: 787
Cash: 1,440
Default

I bet a lot of shrimp sold in restaurants are not American caught either.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-15-2018, 05:10 PM
lil bubba's Avatar
lil bubba lil bubba is offline
Red Snapper
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: southeast , la.
Posts: 1,175
Cash: 1,354
Default

I don't know about the lic. requirements but I do know the store by my house sells these fish on the lunch menu . They are not the same as catfish . I saw the guy wash the hell out of them then hang around a big collender to drain . They leech out oil and water ,,,nasty....Never ate them and after I saw that I never will...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-15-2018, 07:39 PM
Smalls Smalls is offline
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: South Central LA
Posts: 2,822
Cash: 3,948
Default

I read an article a while back that said Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi had banned the sell of Swai because of illegal antiobiotics.

The article went on to say that some people were skeptical of that line of reasoning, simply because of the amount of catfish farmed in the 3 states.

I don't know who else would be involved in the case if it weren't LDWF.

Also, there is a federal law that makes it illegal to label anything as catfish that is not a member of the Ictaluridae family.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-15-2018, 07:53 PM
duckman1911's Avatar
duckman1911 duckman1911 is offline
Sailfish
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Otis
Posts: 4,194
Cash: 5,193
Default

Not saying it's a good practice but why is LDWF involved?There is nothing wild about those fish. They are no different than cattle raised for slaughter. Possom cops have more important things to do with tax payer salaries. Ya know park and play on your phone for 8 hours or so.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-15-2018, 09:07 PM
Stdjas55 Stdjas55 is offline
Flounder
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: La
Posts: 35
Cash: 564
Default

People should get what they pay for, if restaurants say catfish it should be catfish. I am glad someone is watching. Duckman maybe you should move to Vietnam.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-15-2018, 10:01 PM
Smalls Smalls is offline
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: South Central LA
Posts: 2,822
Cash: 3,948
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by duckman1911 View Post
Not saying it's a good practice but why is LDWF involved?There is nothing wild about those fish. They are no different than cattle raised for slaughter. Possom cops have more important things to do with tax payer salaries. Ya know park and play on your phone for 8 hours or so.
Fish farms are regulated by LDWF. Cattle operations are not. There is a big difference.

Also, I believe wholesalers/retailers purchasing fish have to have a license from LDWF, with a few exemptions.

Who do you think should be handling this if not LDWF?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-15-2018, 11:03 PM
Feesherman Feesherman is online now
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Moss Bluff
Posts: 2,656
Cash: 1,001
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smalls View Post

I don't know who else would be involved in the case if it weren't LDWF.
Could be the retarded Louisiana CCA

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-16-2018, 06:03 AM
Smalls Smalls is offline
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: South Central LA
Posts: 2,822
Cash: 3,948
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feesherman View Post
Could be the retarded Louisiana CCA

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
That doesn't even make any sense.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-16-2018, 07:25 AM
Feesherman Feesherman is online now
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Moss Bluff
Posts: 2,656
Cash: 1,001
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smalls View Post
That doesn't even make any sense.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

When it comes to restrictions, especially with no sound reasons for them, you can look to CCA
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-16-2018, 08:17 AM
DaPointIsDaBomb's Avatar
DaPointIsDaBomb DaPointIsDaBomb is offline
Trophy Trout
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Erath
Posts: 478
Cash: 1,216
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by duckman1911 View Post
Not saying it's a good practice but why is LDWF involved?There is nothing wild about those fish. They are no different than cattle raised for slaughter. Possom cops have more important things to do with tax payer salaries. Ya know park and play on your phone for 8 hours or so.
I think that F in that acronym is for fish and W is for wild, so yeah I have no idea. Should only pertain to wild fish

We should be able to sell whatever we want.Its the responsibility of the person buying it to believe that we are selling what we say we are selling.

I sold a bag of oregano to a sucker in high school.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-16-2018, 09:08 AM
Smalls Smalls is offline
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: South Central LA
Posts: 2,822
Cash: 3,948
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feesherman View Post
When it comes to restrictions, especially with no sound reasons for them, you can look to CCA
It was a Farm Bill enacted regulation in 2002. Still not sure why CCA would have skin in the game of catfish farming.

Seems to me the logical explanation here is that an industry that reportedly contributes $4 billion annually (according to The Catfish Institute) to the Louisiana economy found a way to protect their investment, and (along with other states) had a law enacted requiring accurate labeling. Then, as if thar wasn't enough, they got the state itself to ban the sell of Swai and anything else that wasn't a catfish or could pass as a catfish.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-16-2018, 09:54 AM
Feesherman Feesherman is online now
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Moss Bluff
Posts: 2,656
Cash: 1,001
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smalls View Post
Still not sure why CCA would have skin in the game of catfish farming.
They don't, I just take every opportunity I can to expose them.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-16-2018, 09:58 AM
Smalls Smalls is offline
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: South Central LA
Posts: 2,822
Cash: 3,948
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feesherman View Post
They don't, I just take every opportunity I can to expose them.
Obsessed much?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-16-2018, 10:03 AM
Feesherman Feesherman is online now
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Moss Bluff
Posts: 2,656
Cash: 1,001
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smalls View Post
Obsessed much?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Bored mostly, you ever been stuck on a conference call?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-16-2018, 10:07 AM
Smalls Smalls is offline
King Mackeral
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: South Central LA
Posts: 2,822
Cash: 3,948
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feesherman View Post
Bored mostly, you ever been stuck on a conference call?
Haha, too many to count.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-16-2018, 11:35 AM
duckman1911's Avatar
duckman1911 duckman1911 is offline
Sailfish
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Otis
Posts: 4,194
Cash: 5,193
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smalls View Post
Fish farms are regulated by LDWF. Cattle operations are not. There is a big difference.

Also, I believe wholesalers/retailers purchasing fish have to have a license from LDWF, with a few exemptions.

Who do you think should be handling this if not LDWF?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Really doesn't matter to me who handles it I was just surprised it was them. Would have thought the department of agriculture but not ldwf is all. Didn't see why they would be involved in a non wildlife operation.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-16-2018, 01:34 PM
redaddiction's Avatar
redaddiction redaddiction is offline
Red Snapper
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Lafayette
Posts: 1,474
Cash: 2,563
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by duckman1911 View Post
Really doesn't matter to me who handles it I was just surprised it was them. Would have thought the department of agriculture but not ldwf is all. Didn't see why they would be involved in a non wildlife operation.
Wildlife and ?Fsheries?! They deal with fish farms in their duties.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-16-2018, 03:25 PM
duckman1911's Avatar
duckman1911 duckman1911 is offline
Sailfish
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Otis
Posts: 4,194
Cash: 5,193
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redaddiction View Post
Wildlife and ?Fsheries?! They deal with fish farms in their duties.
It certainly appears to be the case.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:56 AM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - [ARG:3 UNDEFINED], Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vB.Sponsors
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
SaltyCajun.com logo provided by Bryce Risher

All content, images, designs, and logos are Copyright © 2009-2012,
Salty Cajun, LLC
No unathorized use is permitted
Geo Visitors Map