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Old 02-21-2016, 06:57 PM
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Voting for a 3rd party candidate is just like not voting because they have no chance. Remember Ross Peroit??

Depends if they split the REP vote or the DEM vote, Ross split the REP vote, a 3rd party Trump will split the REP vote. If Bloomberg runs 3rd party he'll split the DEMs vote, But in general I agree with you! I personally don't like these "others" on the ballot, kinda like death by a 1000 cuts from within
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Old 02-21-2016, 07:30 PM
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I'm with Noodle Creek. The Republican nominee(Trump?)would be far better than either Hillary or Bernie in my opinion. At this point, unless she is indicted by the FBI, (and maybe in spite of that), Hillary will be the Dem nominee. if you think Obama is bad, wait until she is pres. You like guns? Better enjoy them now. If she is elected, she has said she likes the Australian model of gun ownership, where citizens don't have the right to defend themselves with them. Obamacare? There was Hillarycare long before anyone ever heard of Obama. Sanders? A proud Socialist! Times are tough for you now? Wait until Sanders starts to tax your paycheck to make it "fair" for everyone else, no matter if they even have a paycheck or not. Third party candidate? Great-cast your vote for someone has no chance of being elected. That will show 'em. Just know that you might as well be voting for Hillary or Bernie. They will thank you for that vote. The American public has had enough of the status quo, hence the popularity of "outsiders" like Trump, Sanders, Carson, and Herman Cain. Trump might not be my first choice, but he is a very successful businessman, who knows how to deal with people and get things done. Sure he is a blowhard, and says things that politicians usually don't or shouldn't, but at least he speaks from the heart and doesn't care if he is politically correct or not. If given the choice between Trump and the Democraticic alternative I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
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Old 02-21-2016, 07:35 PM
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I'm with Noodle Creek. The Republican nominee(Trump?)would be far better than either Hillary or Bernie in my opinion. At this point, unless she is indicted by the FBI, (and maybe in spite of that), Hillary will be the Dem nominee. if you think Obama is bad, wait until she is pres. You like guns? Better enjoy them now. If she is elected, she has said she likes the Australian model of gun ownership, where citizens don't have the right to defend themselves with them. Obamacare? There was Hillarycare long before anyone ever heard of Obama. Sanders? A proud Socialist! Times are tough for you now? Wait until Sanders starts to tax your paycheck to make it "fair" for everyone else, no matter if they even have a paycheck or not. Third party candidate? Great-cast your vote for someone has no chance of being elected. That will show 'em. Just know that you might as well be voting for Hillary or Bernie. They will thank you for that vote. The American public has had enough of the status quo, hence the popularity of "outsiders" like Trump, Sanders, Carson, and Herman Cain. Trump might not be my first choice, but he is a very successful businessman, who knows how to deal with people and get things done. Sure he is a blowhard, and says things that politicians usually don't or shouldn't, but at least he speaks from the heart and doesn't care if he is politically correct or not. If given the choice between Trump and the Democraticic alternative I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
DING DING DING

WINNER!

If a DEM gets in we are more then FOOKED. No guns, no money. I wonder how the gun confiscation would play out, wonder how many American's will get killed over this

Ill vote for anyone to keep a DEM out
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Old 02-21-2016, 08:52 PM
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I'm with Noodle Creek. The Republican nominee(Trump?)would be far better than either Hillary or Bernie in my opinion. At this point, unless she is indicted by the FBI, (and maybe in spite of that), Hillary will be the Dem nominee. if you think Obama is bad, wait until she is pres. You like guns? Better enjoy them now. If she is elected, she has said she likes the Australian model of gun ownership, where citizens don't have the right to defend themselves with them. Obamacare? There was Hillarycare long before anyone ever heard of Obama. Sanders? A proud Socialist! Times are tough for you now? Wait until Sanders starts to tax your paycheck to make it "fair" for everyone else, no matter if they even have a paycheck or not. Third party candidate? Great-cast your vote for someone has no chance of being elected. That will show 'em. Just know that you might as well be voting for Hillary or Bernie. They will thank you for that vote. The American public has had enough of the status quo, hence the popularity of "outsiders" like Trump, Sanders, Carson, and Herman Cain. Trump might not be my first choice, but he is a very successful businessman, who knows how to deal with people and get things done. Sure he is a blowhard, and says things that politicians usually don't or shouldn't, but at least he speaks from the heart and doesn't care if he is politically correct or not. If given the choice between Trump and the Democraticic alternative I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
Couldn't have said it better myself. You are 100% correct!
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Old 02-21-2016, 09:28 PM
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In 2008 I voted for McCain to keep a democrat out, in 2012 I voted for Romney to keep a democrat out, so..... I wasted two votes in an effort to keep a democrat out because the Republican Party couldn't seem to put forth a candidate that most people thought would be a good president.

Look, I totally understand we don't won't Clinton or Sanders in office, that's a no-brainer. But at the same time the Republican Party needs to provide us with viable candidates that people besides far-right conservatives can get behind. I'm not convinced that Trump will make a good president and to be honest I think Hillary will beat him in a landslide and Sanders might even beat him. I know my opinion in this is a bit different than most of you guys and it's definitely not a popular opinion among my conservative circle, but I don't like settling for voting for someone out of fear that if I don't someone worse will get the job.

I guess in the end we all have to do what we think is best and what helps us sleep good at night. I'll vote this November and pray the Lord has his hand on us.


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Old 02-22-2016, 01:04 AM
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There are several Republican candidates who I would gladly vote for if my preferred candidate does not get the nomination, but I will not vote for whoever the Republican candidate happens to be if his platform, character, and ideas are radically different from what I want in a president. If we always vote for mediocre Republican nominees, we'll keep getting mediocre Republican nominees. I won't hold my nose again and vote for liberals like McCain and Romney just because they are "not as bad" as the democratic candidates.
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Old 02-22-2016, 07:28 AM
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If Trump gets the nod i will vote for him. If he runs 3rd party i will not There is no way a 3rd party candidate can win . All that will result in is a split vote and a demo craptic president.
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Old 02-22-2016, 08:07 AM
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I think its gonna end up being Rubio vs Hillary with Trump doing the Ross Perot thing which will guarantee Hillary a victory unfortunately
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:49 AM
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There are several Republican candidates who I would gladly vote for if my preferred candidate does not get the nomination, but I will not vote for whoever the Republican candidate happens to be if his platform, character, and ideas are radically different from what I want in a president. If we always vote for mediocre Republican nominees, we'll keep getting mediocre Republican nominees. I won't hold my nose again and vote for liberals like McCain and Romney just because they are "not as bad" as the democratic candidates.

so........just curious..............you no vote?

I just cannot vote for a right out liar like Hillary..........or a Bernie, a person that has his ideas needs to live in another country.

IF Trump goes all the way to the Oval office, he will likely be a one term president, he may would not even run the second term once her learns how challenging the "real" life of politicians are.

But at least he will test the tolerance this country has to getting back on a more conservative track. Right now, most republicans are afraid to speak out lest you be called a racist, greedy or homophobic.
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Old 02-22-2016, 01:22 PM
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People are angry about the way things are going in this country. They want their candidate to be angry about it too. I think that's a big reason Trump is so popular right now. Jeb Bush had about the same passion and emotion as a limp dish rag
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:15 PM
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I tend to lean towards conservative views... I'm not sure who I want to win the Republican nomination yet... but I have a theory about Donald Trump.

I've heard a lot of people talk about him changing his views on some issues from several years ago... I think his EGO is so big that those changes won't matter... He will strive to be remembered as the greatest president to ever live... that is just his nature... and that will obviously mean he will need to work hard to fulfill all of his campaign promises. He will want to stand in front of a podium every January and tell the whole world how wonderful he is and how he is doing exactly what he said he would do.

He is the only person running that is NOT a politician... that is why he is so popular
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:07 PM
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I tend to lean towards conservative views... I'm not sure who I want to win the Republican nomination yet... but I have a theory about Donald Trump.

I've heard a lot of people talk about him changing his views on some issues from several years ago... I think his EGO is so big that those changes won't matter... He will strive to be remembered as the greatest president to ever live... that is just his nature... and that will obviously mean he will need to work hard to fulfill all of his campaign promises. He will want to stand in front of a podium every January and tell the whole world how wonderful he is and how he is doing exactly what he said he would do.

He is the only person running that is NOT a politician... that is why he is so popular

If hes determined to be the GREATEST POTUS buy doing what he says to feed his ego................ hey Im good with that
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:07 PM
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People are angry about the way things are going in this country. They want their candidate to be angry about it too. I think that's a big reason Trump is so popular right now. Jeb Bush had about the same passion and emotion as a limp dish rag

It would seem the "mad as hell" vote has been under estimated.

It crosses all lines, black, gay, rich, poor, white, evangelist......

everyone is "mad as hell"
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Old 02-23-2016, 12:23 AM
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I'm mad a hell right now.. I'll vote for Trump...He can do a better deal with Cap and Trade.. Won't take no S-h---t from Foreign leaders looking for handouts from the US..

He can put people around him that will surprisingly do a great job... If Hilary is elected; U young guys are Fooked... The US is totally Fooked for yrs to come..

I don't think he can do any worse than Obama???? Just My humble opinion............
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Old 02-23-2016, 11:14 PM
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We need a Republican candidate that can stand up and be a fisical conservative, our biggest expenditure is interest on 20 trillion $ national debt, politics aside step the heck up
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