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Reel Bender
08-31-2010, 05:09 PM
Someone please explain why so many recommend a 9mm over a .380


9mm=.354, so that being said a .380 is a larger diameter bullet.

What am I missing in the conversation?

Jordan
08-31-2010, 05:12 PM
Price of weapon ??

LaAngler
08-31-2010, 05:14 PM
Someone please explain why so many recommend a 9mm over a .380


9mm=.354, so that being said a .380 is a larger diameter bullet.

What am I missing in the conversation?


energy, velocity, external ballistics

if you do some research on actual shootings, service caliber guns do not drop people with one shot unless you hit head or CNS

simplepeddler
08-31-2010, 05:22 PM
Price of ammo too

specktator
08-31-2010, 05:23 PM
They say a Federal Hydro-Shock HP in a .40 S&W has higher one-shot knock down power than any round.

Jordan
08-31-2010, 05:32 PM
They say a Federal Hydro-Shock HP in a .40 S&W has higher one-shot knock down power than any round.

these stay in my gun at all times.... if i cant stop someone with 10 rounds, then i'll just die...

simplepeddler
08-31-2010, 06:36 PM
anyone that keeps coming after getting shot at ten times deserves whatever I gotz

Bluechip
08-31-2010, 07:52 PM
anyone that keeps coming after getting shot at ten times deserves whatever I gotz

I keep two clips handy....one for them and if that doesn't work I have one for myself.....:D

southern151
08-31-2010, 07:57 PM
these stay in my gun at all times.... if i cant stop someone with 10 rounds, then i'll just die...

Anyone who don't die in ten rounds will get the next four in the clip! If that don't work, it falls out REAL EASY and they got 14 more reasons why they should have picked on another guy!

ShadMan
08-31-2010, 08:01 PM
Yep, it's all about the velocity. ;)

Personally, I wouldn't carry either a .380 or 9mm as a daily carry weapon. .40 is the smallest caliber I'll trust my life to and what I carry most often. If I'm in a situation where I simply can't get away with concealing a .40, I'll carry my .380 as it's better than nothing, but I sure wouldn't plan on dropping someone on first shot. Aim well and squeeze often. ;)

southern151
08-31-2010, 08:04 PM
Aim small, miss small! A .22 will do a lot! Make em count every time or make em frequent!

ShadMan
08-31-2010, 08:07 PM
Here's a good article that shows the difference in velocity and energy between the two rounds. The 9mm is 65% more effective. ;)

http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/l/aast9mmv380a.htm

LaAngler
08-31-2010, 08:10 PM
there's just too many variables to say which is better, you can argue 9mm vs 45 vs XXX from now until the end of time

a .380 is just obviously weak

wtretrievers
08-31-2010, 08:23 PM
.380 with a 102 grain Golden Saber at the muzzle has 200 ft-lbs of energy

9mm with a 124 grain Golden Saber at the muzzle has 384 ft-lbs of energy

mikedatiger
08-31-2010, 08:27 PM
Read this and it will tell you everything you need to know. It's not velocity, that's part of the equation, but so is mass, and shot placement. This article states that the .40 is the best, but the author is adamant that the 1 factor is placement!!

My favorite quote in the whole article: I reminded them of my 1st commandment of gun fighting: "No intelligent man or woman should ever take a pistol to a gun fight with any degree of enthusiasm."

http://www.neiassociates.org/caliber.htm

LaAngler
08-31-2010, 08:36 PM
10mm would be the best if the guns weren't thick as a brick

supercajun
08-31-2010, 09:22 PM
i like my 357sig over my 40.

Dink
08-31-2010, 09:30 PM
I want a colt python......not so much a carry weapon, but I still want one!!!! My favorite round is the s&w 40......get the right load and its faster than the 9 and more stopping power than the 45

speck-chaser
08-31-2010, 09:37 PM
a 380 is like a 9mm short kinda like a 40 cal. would be a 10mm short. Look up the specs of buffalo bore ammo, just about brings a 380 up to 9 mm specs. some potent lil rounds.

speck-chaser
08-31-2010, 09:41 PM
I want a colt python......not so much a carry weapon, but I still want one!!!! My favorite round is the s&w 40......get the right load and its faster than the 9 and more stopping power than the 45

I gots one of those, never been shot.

Dink
08-31-2010, 09:54 PM
I saw one for sale a few years ago.....it was a cops, he wanted 500 for it.......I was broke at the time......I kick myself for not figuring out a way to buy it.......nothing sounds like that gun!!!!

speck-chaser
08-31-2010, 09:56 PM
yeah, kinda hard to come by these days. mines an older one that still has the tags on it,pristine , with a 6" vent rib

Dink
08-31-2010, 09:58 PM
yeah, kinda hard to come by these days. mines an older one that still has the tags on it,pristine , with a 6" vent rib

When we goin
Shoot it?

speck-chaser
08-31-2010, 10:07 PM
as soon as someone breaks in.lol

Dink
08-31-2010, 10:20 PM
I had the revovler vs semi debate awhile back.......I like em both, but when someone breaks in, I want the semi.....why shoot em 6 times when you can shoot em 10??? A Guy mentioned a cop asked why h had **** the intruder 10 times......he said "cause I ran out of bullets". Guess a pre or post ban 9mm would have been better for him??

Dink
08-31-2010, 10:20 PM
Shot

speck-chaser
08-31-2010, 10:25 PM
I wouldnt use that one on an intruder anyhow,kinda special never being shot. I gots plenty more I would like to try out first. Im like you with the semi auto too. lots of rounds,and dont forget the riot shotgun, very effective inside the house.

Dink
08-31-2010, 10:35 PM
I got a single shot 10, only chambers 3 1/2.......I got some #2 lead shot in it......it stays loaded under my bed.....I feel sorry for the Guy that comes in unwanted....you know how on western movies people go flying thru the air when hit by a shotgun?? I bet the same would happen with this 10!!!!

specktator
09-01-2010, 06:51 AM
I got a single shot 10, only chambers 3 1/2.......I got some #2 lead shot in it......it stays loaded under my bed.....I feel sorry for the Guy that comes in unwanted....you know how on western movies people go flying thru the air when hit by a shotgun?? I bet the same would happen with this 10!!!!

Lol I have one too. Crack barrel 10 gauge, it's my turkey gun.

Opinions_Vary
09-01-2010, 08:00 AM
The sell a lot of compacts in .45 that's what I would go with, however if you get a revolver you can count on 5-6 shots that won't jam and there is no arguing the damage a .357 mag can cause.

Dink
09-01-2010, 08:15 AM
Lol I have one too. Crack barrel 10 gauge, it's my turkey gun.

Hope you don't shoot it while sitting back against a tree!!! Not sure what store sells new shoulders

specktator
09-01-2010, 12:03 PM
Hope you don't shoot it while sitting back against a tree!!! Not sure what store sells new shoulders

LOL I shot a turkey with it this year, and one year before last. When I am shooting at wild game, the last thought on my mind is how hard it is going to kick. I dont even come close to noticing it. But when I bought it, I decided to take it out to Sherbune and check out my pattern. I got off about 4 shots before I had enough. I have never shot a gun that kicks as hard as this one.

Dink
09-01-2010, 01:06 PM
Mine weights 7 1/2 lbs.......its a BEAST!!!!

PathfinderNI
09-01-2010, 03:08 PM
with pre-ban 15-shot magazines loaded with ProLoad hollowpoints....smooth shootin' gun. With 15 shots you can fire quite a few practice rounds to find the target!!:D Like my Sig 40/.357 a lot too. Keep a couple of Kahr 9mm's for concealment/automobile pistols. Don't have a .45, wouldn't mind having one.

rambler
09-30-2010, 08:24 AM
the difference is the length - if i remember correctly, the 9mm case is 2mm longer. those 2mm make a lot of difference in how fast a heavier bullet can be sent downrange.

i've never had a cause to brandish my weapons, but i've always heard that the most effective weapon is the one that you can hit the target with. no one wants to be shot with ANYTHING regardless of caliber.

eman
09-30-2010, 09:58 AM
Beware the man who only owns one gun. More than likely he knows how to use it very well.

longcast
09-30-2010, 01:27 PM
Beware the man who only owns one gun. More than likely he knows how to use it very well.

That's me. I have a Springfield 45. It's the four inch barrel. I love it. Shoot great. I assure u

Shawn Braquet
09-30-2010, 02:29 PM
I know of a guy that took 4 shots with a .40 to the chest before he hit the ground, it wasn't good after that for him though, especially since two more shots were fired:cool:

southern151
09-30-2010, 04:13 PM
I know of a guy that took 4 shots with a .40 to the chest before he hit the ground, it wasn't good after that for him though, especially since two more shots were fired:cool:
OOPS!:*****::*****::*****: I'm sure it couldn't have happened to a better, more deserving "person!" PFFFT!