Hunting Labs

[HHenry1]

Hey Fellas, does anyone know of anybody that would have some registered Lab pups for sale? I'd like a white one, but any color would do right about now. Thanks!

[1234567]

why do you want a white hunting dog?

[malliegator]

Once you go black....

[HHenry1]

Had a Brown and a Black, Want to try White now for a change. Gotta try all the flavors!

[fullrutt]

Red is the way to go...


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[HHenry1]

Never Seen a red lab before big daddy. I have seen an Irish Setter though. I would shell out the money for one of those if I could find one near here.

[Loneshark]

I never knew they had red labs either but they do. Also have silver.

[cmcnabb]

A white hunting dog is just one more thing to hide

[mallardhead]

Robert autemaunt has puppies and started labs in lake arthur al his puppies parents are hrch titled

[fullrutt]

I never knew they had red labs either but they do. Also have silver.

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[Top Dawg]

No such thing as a silver lab. Black, yellow, and chocolate.

[I make oil]

John Wilson with Wax Lake Retreivers has some good puppies right now. (985) 397-0933

[jldsc]

i had to look it up myself...says theres red, charcoal and silver..

[Spunt Drag]

i had to look it up myself...says theres red, charcoal and silver..

Only colors registered wit your major Kennel Clubs are Black, Yellow, and chocolate. And Robert Authement is reputable and a nice guy to deal with.

[Top Dawg]

What most people call a silver lab, and some people breed them, is actually a mix breed. Weimaraner/lab.

[jldsc]

alright...so they can make the breed color but the kennel clubs dont accept those colors then...I had the same issue with getting AKC to accept some of the colors on my mini schnauzers...

[jldsc]

What most people call a silver lab, and some people breed them, is actually a mix breed. Weimaraner/lab.

I was wondering, cuz some of the ones I looked at had a funny lookin head on a labs frame

[Loneshark]

AKC will register a silver(registered as chocolate) and red(registered as yellow) both of which are pure-bred.
Labrador Retriever - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

[Loneshark]

Speck-Chaser just got a silver. General Discussion (Everything Else): New Pup - SaltyCajun.com

[fullrutt]

Only colors registered wit your major Kennel Clubs are Black, Yellow, and chocolate. And Robert Authement is reputable and a nice guy to deal with.

This is not true what so ever... A red lab is a thrown off gene from a yellow lab and is registered under yellow lab... It Is excepted with all major kennel clubs... Silvers which are more rare and have came from blacks/chocolates is registered as either black lab or chocolate labs... Now people started breeding blacks with W's to
Get that more deep silver but most od those silvers have been breed blacks to blacks thru good breeders that they are still registered blacks labs...


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[Ducktrickster]

Anyone trying to intentionally breed labs that will not adhere to the breed standard is not a good breeder.

[Shawn Braquet]

Anyone trying to intentionally breed labs that will not adhere to the breed standard is not a good breeder.
amen

[Top Dawg]

This is not true what so ever... A red lab is a thrown off gene from a yellow lab and is registered under yellow lab... It Is excepted with all major kennel clubs... Silvers which are more rare and have came from blacks/chocolates is registered as either black lab or chocolate labs... Now people started breeding blacks with W's to
Get that more deep silver but most od those silvers have been breed blacks to blacks thru good breeders that they are still registered blacks labs...


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So what you're saying is there are only 3 kinds of labs. Black, yellow, and chocolate. We already knew this.

[Shawn Braquet]

So what you're saying is there are only 3 kinds of labs. Black, yellow, and chocolate. We already knew this.
Kind of what I was thinking. So there is a red but it's registered as a yellow....doesn't that make it a yellow?? I'm hoping I'm missing something here.:confused:

[Top Dawg]

The red is just a yellow. People call them reds but they are yellow. Silvers are chocolates. Some yellows look red, some look yellow, some look white. But they are all yellow labs!

[Shawn Braquet]

The red is just a yellow. People call them reds but they are yellow. Silvers are chocolates. Some yellows look red, some look yellow, some look white. But they are all yellow labs!
Dang now y'all got me thinking my red mini Dachshund is really a yellow lab. Wonder how he'll do in the duck blind. Think I'll just stick to the basic 3 colors. They've all done fine for me so far. :cheers:

[Top Dawg]

Lol

[Loneshark]

Back in pre school I learned my colors and I a can identify the difference between red and yellow and silver and black. To me the color they are registered as is irrelevant. I have a yellow lab now who's dad was Chocolate and mom was black. They had all three of the common colors (black, chocolate, and yellow) in her litter.

[Spunt Drag]

This is not true what so ever... A red lab is a thrown off gene from a yellow lab and is registered under yellow lab... It Is excepted with all major kennel clubs... Silvers which are more rare and have came from blacks/chocolates is registered as either black lab or chocolate labs... Now people started breeding blacks with W's to
Get that more deep silver but most od those silvers have been breed blacks to blacks thru good breeders that they are still registered blacks labs...


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I'll repeat myself. The only colors recognized by major kennel clubs, are black, yellow and chocolate. I don't know what y'all are gettin at. I mean it's a fact, it's not my opinion. I knew salty was bad about opinions, but to take a fact and say its wrong is surprising. So and so has a silver lab that's registered, great, but it's registered as a chocolate. John Doe has a registered red lab, but it's registered as a yellow. :help:

[Spunt Drag]

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h368/rreppond/E84EB4BD-0440-4BD6-A6F2-200126F6CC62-1479-00000236736F0603.jpg
Negro, Amarillo, y Chocolate

[fullrutt]

So what you're saying is there are only 3 kinds of labs. Black, yellow, and chocolate. We already knew this.

Well yes but obviously some people do not understand colors or say a red or silver is a yellow or black lab... I know you older but wiser men know your colors...


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[Top Dawg]

Well yes but obviously some people do not understand colors or say a red or silver is a yellow or black lab... I know you older but wiser men know your colors...


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:help::eek:

[Top Dawg]

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h368/rreppond/E84EB4BD-0440-4BD6-A6F2-200126F6CC62-1479-00000236736F0603.jpg
Negro, Amarillo, y Chocolate

Only thing red in that picture is that rocket!!!

[noodle creek]

I'll never have anything but a black; original, purest bred labs

[Spunt Drag]

Only thing red in that picture is that rocket!!!

Duh! He was on the downwind side of that chocolate female. We've all been there

[speck-chaser]

Yes, I have a new "Silver" Lab puppy. I got it from a reputable breeder who has been consitantly turning out silvers for 16 years now. For those of you who "think" you know that labs are bred with weimies to get this color, you need to do some more homework. They are still registered under the heading of chocolate,because the specifications state that colors can range from sedge to chocolate. Check with akc,they have done a good bit of research on these silvers.My puppies daddy was a Silver,and the mom was a factored silver chocolate. They had a litter of 8. 5 silvers and 3 chocolates. Soooo.... dont be hatin.lol The last pic is the baby daddy.

[Feesherman]

Specifically breeding for color is a huge disservice to the breed! Just like them short legged pig lookin labs at the dog shows!

[Top Dawg]

Yep. So have we finally narrowed it down that their are only chocolate, yellow, and black labs???

[Top Dawg]

I'll never have anything but a black; original, purest bred labs

This is also true. The black is the most superior color of the breed.

[1234567]

Post your pedigree of the silver lab if you dont mind.

[Raymond]

Have fun.

http://www.thelabradorclub.com/subpages/show_detail_news.php?nid=3

[jldsc]

boy your pups dad is an animal and a beautiful dog...where could I get my hands on one like him??

[bbrown]

I knew a guy that had two silver lab puppies when he let his 2 chocolate littermates to close to each other when the female was in heat....I personally don't want a dog that takes a little sister twister to make.

I have taken bits and pieces of advice from Raymond Little on dogs and the major theme is "when you start breeding for a specific color and not for genetic traits you are getting exactly what you are paying for"

[Top Dawg]

Have fun.

http://www.thelabradorclub.com/subpages/show_detail_news.php?nid=3

Cut and dry right there!!!

[Feesherman]

"when you start breeding for a specific color and not for genetic traits you are getting exactly what you are paying for"

Pretty much exactly what I said.

[Spunt Drag]

Cut and dry right there!!!

Exactly! It's science! A simple Punnet square will tell you, labs have B, E, or b. They don't have any other pigments.

[1234567]

So really what he has is cross breed btw a Weimaraner and lab.
Some people just want to be different.

[Top Dawg]

And theres nothing wrong with that. But if you want a pure bred Labrador it's either going to be black, yellow, or chocolate.

[Feesherman]

And theres nothing wrong with that. But if you want a pure bred Labrador it's either going to be black, yellow, or chocolate.


Lot of folks out there like to be different from the norm and that is cool. Folks also don't like being taken down the river. So when they pay big money for a "silver" lab, they will argue all day long that their lab is really a lab. Even though it isn't. What is most concerning is that breeding for certain colors will be the downfall of some great blood lines. People want a groovy rainbow colored lab instead of good genetics. Who cares if it has bad eyes, and bad hips? The damn thing is rainbow! Gimme a high five bro!

[Raymond]

Lot of folks out there like to be different from the norm and that is cool. Folks also don't like being taken down the river. So when they pay big money for a "silver" lab, they will argue all day long that their lab is really a lab. Even though it isn't. What is most concerning is that breeding for certain colors will be the downfall of some great blood lines. People want a groovy rainbow colored lab instead of good genetics. Who cares if it has bad eyes, and bad hips? The damn thing is rainbow! Gimme a high five bro!

Hater/Racist:D

[Feesherman]

Hater/Racist:D

I ain't racist, I hate errrbody da same!:smokin:

[Loneshark]

This is also true. The black is the most superior color of the breed.

This statement makes no sense at all. Like I said earlier my puppies litter consisted of all three colors. Mom was black and dad yellow. So how are the blacks in that litter more pure than the chocolate or yellow.

Hair color does not make someone superior.

[Top Dawg]

This statement makes no sense at all. Like I said earlier my puppies litter consisted of all three colors. Mom was black and dad yellow. So how are the blacks in that litter more pure than the chocolate or yellow.

Hair color does not make someone superior.

Please do a little background on labs. :help: when they used to be bred strictly for hunting the yellows and chocolates were culled at birth.

[Feesherman]

This statement makes no sense at all. Like I said earlier my puppies litter consisted of all three colors. Mom was black and dad yellow. So how are the blacks in that litter more pure than the chocolate or yellow.

Hair color does not make someone superior.


First, we are not talking about someone, we are talking about labs. Second, It's not about hair color. For years and years the black lab was it. If it wasn't black then it got culled from the litter. Your bloodlines go back the furthest with black labs because that was all that was allowed to survive. Hence, superior bloodlines. Your yellow and chocolate dogs all have bloodlines from black labs, black is the dominant gene by the way. Next they started keeping the yellows but were still culling the chocos. Chocos were the last and have the shortest pedigrees.

Disclaimer: This was a very short version of history just to steer you in the right direction for you furture research on the lab.



Edit: Looks like Top Dawg and I were typing at the same time.

[Raymond]

This statement makes no sense at all. Like I said earlier my puppies litter consisted of all three colors. Mom was black and dad yellow. So how are the blacks in that litter more pure than the chocolate or yellow.

Hair color does not make someone superior.

I believes TD is tryn to say that there are more gentically sound black dogs than any other color. While true, it is primarily because there are more of them and the law of averages kicks in. The best dogs I have ever trained have all been yeller with the exception of 2 brown dogs. Preformance in the pedigree is your best chance for preformance in the offspring. BRB (Back Yard Breeders) couldn't read a pedigree if it bit them in the butt. FYI, the easiest way to tell if the breeding is crap "Champion Blood Lines" & "4 generations of Field Champions" are usually the lead in the advertisement.
Yes you are right about that but Hare Style IMO does.:D

HIGH AND TIGHT REGARDS,

[Loneshark]

So how is the black pups in my dogs litter more pure than the yellows and chocolates? They have the exact same pedigree.

[Feesherman]

So how is the black pups in my dogs litter more pure than the yellows and chocolates? They have the exact same pedigree.

Uhhhhh, no one is talking about your litter except for you. Let remind you again, your entire litter comes from black lab bloodlines.

[Top Dawg]

I give up lol. Its the weekend and I have teal to worry about. So what did we learn here today? There are only 3 lab colors. Black, yellow, and chocolate. We'll resume this lesson Monday.