Where is Money Needed in LA

["W"]

Where do you guys think the WL&F should spend our tax money?

On erosion?
Re building marshes?
Fish Studies?
New Reefs to protect from storms?


Do we need to give more Tax Money to the WL&F?

I think we need to raise out of state fishing license to about $500 year
And hunting to $1000....

And if you are a out of State guide and take customers to LA to guide them you should have to Pay LA $5000 guide fee....

[Mediumheavyaction6'6]

i normally try not to get involved in any discussions that are controversial but I have to chime in on this one. Why would you want to raise the price of the licenses for out of state sportsmen? That would take away from the amount of money brought into the state since those out of state people spend a lot of money on other things while they are here. Louisiana attracts a lot of people and the more the merrier.

[Mediumheavyaction6'6]

Oh and as far as tax dollars spent by Lf&W I think they should invest in educating the public. This state and the country for that matter has no idea the repercussions that the loss of our wetlands means to us and them. I think with better education would come more dollars sent to this state to "fix" some of the issues we face.

[blackmamba]

i normally try not to get involved in any discussions that are controversial but I have to chime in on this one. Why would you want to raise the price of the licenses for out of state sportsmen? That would take away from the amount of money brought into the state since those out of state people spend a lot of money on other things while they are here. Louisiana attracts a lot of people and the more the merrier.


I disagree, this is one of the best places to fish and people would pay a little extra to be able to fish here....I would spend it on erosion

[Mediumheavyaction6'6]

I disagree, this is one of the best places to fish and people would pay a little extra to be able to fish here....I would spend it on erosion

spending a little more and raping outdoors people are two different things

[Ray]

Glad I got my life time hunting and fishing license when they first came out.
It already paid for itself.

If you fix erosion, you fix marshes. That should be lumped into one.

I don't think LDWF should be responsible for fixing what the Feds did when
they dredged the ship channel and what the oil companies did when they dig
canals and ditches.
It took years, but now if you dig do anything to affect wetlands, you have to
have an approved mitigation plan. You damage 1 acre of wetlands, you have
to improve 2 acres somewhere else as a mitigation plan.
LDWF had no say so in letting anyone dredge or dig on private or public lands,
why should they have to foot the bill for what the State and Feds approved?

Just my opinion.

[yak'em-n-stack'em]

Where do you guys think the WL&F should spend our tax money?

On erosion?
Re building marshes?
Fish Studies?
New Reefs to protect from storms?


Do we need to give more Tax Money to the WL&F?

I think we need to raise out of state fishing license to about $500 year
And hunting to $1000....

And if you are a out of State guide and take customers to LA to guide them you should have to Pay LA $5000 guide fee....


these two go hand in hand.

I would like to see WL&F stop hemorrhaging money on pointless projects AND PEOPLE.

As for raising the license fee, thats absurd, it cost me 41 dollars a year to fish in florida all i want to.

what people forget is that fisheries are a blessing not a right. We dont own those fish just because we live in louisiana, everyone in this nation has a right to what we have a right to.

[yak'em-n-stack'em]

Glad I got my life time hunting and fishing license when they first came out.
It already paid for itself.

If you fix erosion, you fix marshes. That should be lumped into one.

I don't think LDWF should be responsible for fixing what the Feds did when
they dredged the ship channel and what the oil companies did when they dig
canals and ditches.
It took years, but now if you dig do anything to affect wetlands, you have to
have an approved mitigation plan. You damage 1 acre of wetlands, you have
to improve 2 acres somewhere else as a mitigation plan.
LDWF had no say so in letting anyone dredge or dig on private or public lands,
why should they have to foot the bill for what the State and Feds approved?

Just my opinion.


thats a very very minimum rate. you are right wildlife and fisheries's main concern is not coastal loss, but with coastal erosion you loose habitat, so they must be involved, but NO they should not foot the bill.

[Ray]

I had to pay for mitigation in the late 80's. It was 2 for 1.
They would not let me do it, I had to pay a certified contractor.
I wanted to make wetlands by digging a levee around some land
and flooding it. The state said it could be pumped out, so I had
to fix up some land somewhere else. They did not let me make
the decision on where it was, they made all decisions.
I was able to find a contractor way cheaper than what the State
wanted to use.

[yak'em-n-stack'em]

yea, people make lots of money off the state from mitigation banks.

its stupid what the state makes you do even when you are trying to help.

Hopefully in a few years ill be up there making decisions

["W"]

I think if someone from out of state wants to fish they should at least pay what I pay to hunt in Texas.....

[Ray]

At one time, La. charged Texans the same it cost us to hunt in Texas.
Fishing might be different. But I remember that it cost my friends from Ga.
less to hunt ducks than it did my friends from Tx., in the same year.
This was in the 90's.

[BIGJ]

I think if someone from out of state wants to fish they should at least pay what I pay to hunt in Texas.....

Thank you W.
Texas wants to charge a prime rate for us to make a hunt over there.
So they should have to pay the same to fish over here.
We have to buy a year license just to hunt one day.

[Ray]

When I first started hunting deer in Tx., it was $75.
When I quit hunting deer in Tx., it was $200.

[BIGJ]

Now its $300. Even for one day.

[huntin fool]

Where do you guys think the WL&F should spend our tax money?

On erosion?
Re building marshes?
Fish Studies?
New Reefs to protect from storms?



as stated above...


Louisiana's coast is basically 95% marshes (not exact, im not a google pro.) The coast aka marshes are eroding, and only way to fix that would be to "re build the marshes". In a early thread, we said pumping sediment back into the marshes, will basically "re-build them." Bosshog mentioned that the sediment pumped in the marsh is going to basically be a big mud flat. IDK how many plants would be able to grow on that Mud flat (yak-em could tell ya) but from what i've learned from my classes, sooner plants grow the better the soil will stay in-tact. Making it not erode as fast.

SOO basically, unless you want your home/camp on Biglake being apart of the gulf of mehico, they need to spend the money on restoring marshes, not only by pumping sediment back, but also replanting. Thankfully I don't pay taxes yet :p


I think all that makes sense...??

[Mediumheavyaction6'6]

Federal dollars are needed to fund these projects along with the cooperation of the Corp of Engineers. Unfortunately, they hold most of the cards when it comes to projects like these. Rebuilding the marshes are a good idea the problem lies in the fact that there needs to be a replenishing of organics from natural river flooding. This has been virtually eliminated thanks to the afore mentioned Corp of Engineers. Barrier islands are another critical improvement needed to be made so we have protection from the plethora of hurricanes we are getting as of late. Yak'em and I are working as hard as we can to develop genetically diverse plants to rebuild the marshes but we can only go so far without monetary help. This is not just my opinion these are all facts.

[Deadly D]

Ok guys get ready. I will agree With W on charging out of state fisherman and hunters the same as they charge us. If Texans come fish with a guide the licsenes is a couple of dollars and this is BS. Now this year they did go up on out of state hunting license. IMO if you want to go out of state pay for it, its your choice. I hunt out of state and I pay for it and dont agree with the cost but I still go. Just my 2 cents

["W"]

Ok guys get ready. I will agree With W on charging out of state fisherman and hunters the same as they charge us. If Texans come fish with a guide the licsenes is a couple of dollars and this is BS. Now this year they did go up on out of state hunting license. IMO if you want to go out of state pay for it, its your choice. I hunt out of state and I pay for it and dont agree with the cost but I still go. Just my 2 cents


AMEN... One Trip to Junction Tx for one week hunt cost me at least $2000.....in fees and tags....your reg and exotic...are sep... You can also buy tags if needed

But for a fishing guide to come to LA and bring his customers to fish our LA tax water should cost him (the guide) $5000 off the bat.....and at least $300 per fisherman per year....Give back to us.....

[Cynoscion33]

AMEN... One Trip to Junction Tx for one week hunt cost me at least $2000.....in fees and tags....your reg and exotic...are sep... You can also buy tags if needed

But for a fishing guide to come to LA and bring his customers to fish our LA tax water should cost him (the guide) $5000 off the bat.....and at least $300 per fisherman per year....Give back to us.....

Those numbers aren't even in the ballpark of being SANE... :shaking:

["W"]

Those numbers aren't even in the ballpark of being SANE... :shaking:


IF your a guide they are right on.............Is this Rackmynutts?????:pissed:

[Deadly D]

IF your a guide they are right on.............Is this Rackmynutts?????:pissed:
Rut roooo:*****::*****::*****::*****:

[Ray]

The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Natural
Resources Conservation is
soliciting applications from
landowners interested in
restoring or enhancing wetlands
on private agricultural
land in Louisiana through
the Wetlands Reserve
Program.
The Wetlands Reserve
Program provides financial
incentives to landowners to
restore natural wetlands
with an emphasis on enhancing
wildlife habitats and
environmental benefits.
“Landowners have several
options for enrollment in
WRP,” said NRCS State
Conservationist Kevin
Norton. “Options include
restoration cost-share agreements,
30-year conservation
easements and permanent
conservation easements all
designed to help landowners
achieve personal land use
goals.”
The Wetlands Reserve
Program is a national program
authorized by the
Farm Bill to assist eligible
landowners restore, create,
protect and enhance wetlands
on their property.
Participation in this program
is voluntary, and
restoration is accomplished
in an environmentally safe,
cost effective manner.
Easement payments are
based on the lowest of either
the fair market value of the
land using an appraisal or
area-wide analysis, the
Geographic Area Rate Cap,
or an offer made by the
landowner.
The current Geographic
Area Rate Cap for Calcasieu
and Cameron parishes is
$1,300 per acre.
Interested landowners are
encouraged to contact the
local USDA Service Center
/Natural Resources
Conservation Service field
office to apply for Fiscal Year
2010 funding. Contact the
NRCS Calcasieu-Cameron
Field Office at 436-5020 Ext.
3 or stop by the office at 1400
Gerstner Memorial Drive,
Suite B.
Program information is
also available online at
www.la.nrcs.usda.gov

[yak'em-n-stack'em]

all numbers are based on a sliding scale when it comes to mitigation

[Wag]

Personally ... I believe that hunting & fishing license should be the recipical of what we would have to pay in another state...only fair...

[Bluechip]

Personally ... I believe that hunting & fishing license should be the recipical of what we would have to pay in another state...only fair...

I agree Wag.....

[cmdrost]

The problem is LDWF says the #'s of hunting and fishing licenses are going down each year. Kids are more into video games and computers than going outside.

1 - I agree they could prob get away with a small increase on out of state licenses making them more reciprical of what our neighbors charge.

2 - The STATE of LA needs to move our coastal waters boundry from 3 miles to 10 miles like many of the other states and keep more oil revenues in state. This would self fund many of the coastal erosion plans out there now.

3 - LDWF needs more public education. Esp in the elementary school level. Get kids involved again! And adults.....lots of people don't know what they are doing when it comes to hunting or fishing.

4 - LA is truely Sportsman's Paradise, LDWF needs to do everything in their power to keep it that way. More studies to better understand species of fish or bird, etc. Study the effects of coastal erosion, loss of habitat for shrimp, crabs, etc, that will have a trickle down effect on trout & reds. More in depth studies on offshore species such as triple tail, and red snapper, a.j.'s, and grouper.

[Cynoscion33]

IF your a guide they are right on.............Is this Rackmynutts?????:pissed:

Don't know what your talking about. I do know that the numbers you are talking about are WAY out in left field. :work: