Thank you

I have no knowledge of with either of the two different training methods. That being said reading all of this I understand how the ribbon dogs are controlled. The rock dog I'm guessing is at the blind with you, you knock a bird down and then throw a rock in the direction you think it is and he goes for it. If you have a bad throw or shot with the slingshot is there a way to get the dog to disregard that one?

They call a rock dog.... Anything not trained by a "professional"


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That's not true. Anyone can get a training program and properly train their dog.

Properly? Deadly D says his is trained properly but others say no.... ?????


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I'm not sure that's entirely true. I have seen a few dogs trained by non professionals that were very obedient and would respond to the owners command. I think a "rock dog" would be one that doesn't take commands and must be lined up by actually throwing a rock in the direction you want the dog to go. I have hunted with a very good "amateur" trainer and his dog was definitely not a rock dog.

So it's kinda like

My dog was not trained by Raymond. He has been on maybe 4 trainings with Raymond present and he is 4 years old. I did everything else myself with help from him over the phone when I had issues. Till this day I still have issues that need work but I had many holes in my program. My next dog I will follow the program from te beginning to tried to avoid as many of those as possible

same here my dog is capable of way more im the dummy in the relationship lol.

I want a puppy from D's dog

So what time is the run tomorrow raymond?

DD,

You can HONESTLY say that your dog would go through any and every obstacle put in front of him????? Technical ponds, dirt mounds, etc???? And you wouldn't have to stop him one lick? He'd continue STRAIGHT to the down bird 400 yards away????

C'mon on man......

Maybe he's half beaver and just chew thourgh it? That's deffently worth 10k

My money is up and ready

My man, you have a set of em if you put up $10,000 and your dog doesn't perform up to your standards. Dogs have bad days as well. You're telling me that one kick off, straight line, and can't see the bird fall; he's gonna get it, with no issues? I just wanna make sure that you're sure...

You want to follow him cause when he hits the cattails at 50 yrds you might not keep up

My man, that's what I'm getting out this too.. Sounds like confidence is in the eye of the beholder. If the handler is this confident imagine the confidence of the dog!?!?


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It's clear now a lot of ppl don't have a clue how far 400 yards is

Ok, so how can YOU tell he's in a straight line all the way to the 400 yard mark if YOU can't see him? You assume he is cause he brings the bird back 5-10 minutes later? And that's if he's downwind. He must NEVER lose a bird. I know the marsh you hunt. It's the same vegetation I hunt in. I had a robot dog trained by a very good individual, and mine still lost a bird every now and then.

400yds=1200 feet= 14,400inches=36,576cm

Just to clear things up for ppl who don't know what 4 football fields are. Just the field


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