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keakar 08-15-2015 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 768863)
Depends on what you're fishing for
very valid point, off shore is a completely different set of circumstances then fishing inshore.

and as I said earlier I do sometimes use minnows and cut bait for redfish when I feel like fishing the lazy way

"W" 08-15-2015 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 768862)
I know im going to get flamed for saying this but ....

live bait is for kids, rookies, or guys who don't know how or just never learned to properly fish with artificial baits, once you learn how to properly fish with artificial baits, you bait looks just as alive to the fish as the real thing so you dont need live bait.
You are 100% right , only time ever get it is with kids and most kids hate it , I think it's a lazy tool to fish IMO

I understand people that don't fish very much who want it but when I guide someone I rather than be lazy and just have them throw a cork with shrimp on it

I like to teach them how to fish plastics

irokcj5 08-15-2015 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tigerhead (Post 768852)
Not to be rude, but I think your math or your fishing is at fault. If you fished for 4 to 5 hours without losing a shrimp to the fish or just casting, then you need to find a new area to fish. Not a different bait. If you are losing shrimp to catching or casting, then the cost of the shrimp hasn't changed. That's just the cost of fishing.

I find it funny that most fishermen spend ~$200 on a reel, $100 to $200 on a rod, 20k to 40k on a boat, 30k to 50k on the truck to pull it, $100 on gas per trip, and so on, and then are POd at bait camp owners for charging exorbitant prices for shrimp. Of course bait camp owners are all millionaires because their profits are out the roof......lol!

Truth is, most bait camps barely stay in business. Those same shrimp that are dying in your livewell are also dying in their livewells. So they lose money on them also. And to top it off, just let them not have shrimp and people are mad because they can't get live bait. So no, I don't think it's a scam at all. It's a choice. Your choice.
Gonna start calling you PROFESSOR Tigerhead, cause you just schooled a bunch of fisherman that love their high dollar rigs but don't want anyone else to make a living. Very well put Professor Tigerhead!!

irokcj5 08-15-2015 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 768877)
You are 100% right , only time ever get it is with kids and most kids hate it , I think it's a lazy tool to fish IMO

I understand people that don't fish very much who want it but when I guide someone I rather than be lazy and just have them throw a cork with shrimp on it

I like to teach them how to fish plastics
Next spring when hopefully the bleeding stops in the oilfield, I'm giving you a call. I fish mostly plastics for the past couple of years since getting into kayak fishing. I'm learning at age 51, but sure would like a day of lessons. I grew up soaking shrimp with my dad. He didn't like plastics. Glad to hear of a guide that actually enjoys teaching.

AubreyLaHaye458 08-15-2015 08:25 PM
You can get 30 shrimp for $11.99 I think at Joe's Crab Shak right now.


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marty f 08-15-2015 09:32 PM
The advantge of being a reds fisherman.

They will eat anything. My son uses dead under cork and they are cheap. I use arti. I just bought him a new rig for fishing arti so now he can swap back and fourth.

Dont get me wrong ill throw a dead under a cork to if thats what they are hitting. Hell ill throw a mouse trap wìth crunchy peanut butter if thats what they are hitting on.

The other day momma wanted the all you can eat shrimp at outback so we went. When the food arrived i started laughing out loud and just blerted out to the waitstaff '' holy crap i fish with bigger shrimp'' with out thinking..... momma wasnt amuzed.

Robert Haynes 08-15-2015 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 768877)
You are 100% right , only time ever get it is with kids and most kids hate it , I think it's a lazy tool to fish IMO
I understand people that don't fish very much who want it but when I guide someone I rather than be lazy and just have them throw a cork with shrimp on it
I like to teach them how to fish plastics
I hired a guide last year (not W, should have looks like) with the instructions to the guide that I wanted to learn to fish plastics, I did not care about fish numbers, wanted to learn. Not only did he book someone else for my day, he sent me out with another guide and a bunch of live shrimp. I wasted several hundred dollars, I could of done that by myself.

"W" 08-15-2015 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Haynes (Post 768896)
I hired a guide last year (not W, should have looks like) with the instructions to the guide that I wanted to learn to fish plastics, I did not care about fish numbers, wanted to learn. Not only did he book someone else for my day, he sent me out with another guide and a bunch of live shrimp. I wasted several hundred dollars, I could of done that by myself.
Happens all the time , I always make it 100% know that if I'm booked and they want to still fish. I will only book them if I can find guide that I know will catch fish and is worth $550

We have so many guides who just have the title Capt and want to collect a check from other guides who hire them .

This to me is a big problem because I will never book the extra boat unless it's someone that I trust ( most important) and puts fish in the boat everyday

Hell I know several "so called guides who other guides still use " that's has not put 1 full limit in the boat and where almost in Sept

I make oil 08-16-2015 02:25 AM
I have never ever fished live shrimp. I have taken my brother in law a few times and he has bought them but I can't remember him ever fishing with them out of my boat. I do buy minnows nearly every time I go fishing but they are more of a back up plan I also bring 2 or 3 pounds of dead shrimp. If I'm catching trout it's either on plastics or minnows. The shrimp are for catching Reds if the trout are slow. I have fished with a few guides on business trips but they have always targeted Reds. Anybody can catch Reds. I'm not going to pay someone to bring me out to catch Reds. If I'm paying for a guide out of my pocket I want him to teach me something I don't already know.

I have three places I want to go with a guide. I'd love to fish with Capt Hoop just because I think it would be a blast to spend a day in the boat with him. I'd like to make a trip on big lake with "W" to learn from him and I'd like to make a trip on Lake P with a good guide so I can experience fishing there.

TroutSupport.com 08-16-2015 03:11 PM
And you should see Croaker Prices.... I can't believe people are paying $50 or more for a days worth of bait... that could buy a lot of tackle.

Slingin'dinks 08-19-2015 06:33 AM
If your looking for a cheap hobby, you may want to take up knitting. Live bait is a tough business. Get into that kind of work and you'll find yourself less fortunate than when you were complaining about spending money to buy the shrimp. I am a charter captain and I have not had a problem keeping shrimp live at all. All you need is Lots of oxygen and keep the salinity the same throughout the day. I don't rely on shrimp to catch fish but yes it's very nice to have.

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AlexOrtego 08-19-2015 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 768815)
3 things

1. what somerhing is worth is directly proportionate to what someone will pay for it (see duck leases)

2. This is murica where you can skip right by the bait store and not buy any

3. You have to do a little extra in the summer to keep bait alive


AMEN, totally agree, avoid being a woman/complaining by...... driving straight to the launch and catching your own bait or using artificial

AlexOrtego 08-19-2015 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 768862)
I know im going to get flamed for saying this but ....

live bait is for kids, rookies, or guys who don't know how or just never learned to properly fish with artificial baits, once you learn how to properly fish with artificial baits, you bait looks just as alive to the fish as the real thing so you dont need live bait.
i would say this is very true, i go to big lake once or twice a year so of course i'm DOWN with live shrimp bc i want to maximize my 1 or 2 trips(never works lol) but you get my point

i bass fish religiously, i wouldn't be caught "cheating" to catch a big one. Which i feel is equivalent to using shrimp for trout

"W" 08-19-2015 08:14 AM
I love listening to guides lie to customers and say you need live bait in summer time and I be like

Ha Got em

"W" 08-19-2015 08:23 AM
I don't even know how to fish live shrimp , think I had 3 customers this year ask for it and out of all 3 trips we might of caught 12 Trout and 300 lady fish , gaftop

Duck Butter 08-19-2015 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 768862)
I know im going to get flamed for saying this but ....

live bait is for kids, rookies, or guys who don't know how or just never learned to properly fish with artificial baits,.
Well which is it?


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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 768862)
I do sometimes use minnows and cut bait for redfish
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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 768862)
now when they are feeding on fish I have bought cocahoes

Hightower 08-19-2015 09:08 AM
Fishing offshore in July and August...your "kids, rookies, and guys who don't know how to fish" usually bring back a box full of triple digits. This happens while the seasoned angler (spectator) is chunking and working his vodoo shrimp nearby.

B-Stealth 08-19-2015 09:53 AM
Live Bait is Like Fat Chick @ Closing Time
 
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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 769380)
Well which is it?
Lol, it happens every time live bait is brought up.

Live bait is like the fat chick @ closing time; everybody has taken the easy route, probally will again in the future but nobody ever owns up to taking the "easy road"

(The easy road just so happens to be the road more traveled)

Hightower 08-19-2015 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by B-Stealth (Post 769400)
Lol, it happens every time live bait is brought up.

Live bait is like the fat chick @ closing time; everybody has taken the easy route, probally will again in the future but nobody ever owns up to taking the "easy road"

(The easy road just so happens to be the road more traveled)

Great metaphor...I'd rather get laid more than laid less!!

bayouchub 08-19-2015 10:07 AM
there is no reason you cant catch trout year round on artificial.


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