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Ray 03-01-2010 12:52 PM

THey will not close off any oilfield canals. Oil is too important in this country.
The islands on each side of the ship channel are spoil dumping sites.
The port admitted that in the past, they just dumped spoil there, they
didn't fix it to where the spoil wouldn't erode back into the ship channel.
They know they screwed up in the past and are trying to get federal money to help
them make it better.
The ship channel caused a lot of erosion, now they need to use the ship channel to
fix it.
I think the only natural islands are St. Johns, Rabbit and some almost gone ones in Turners.

2ndamendment 03-01-2010 01:02 PM

Probably safe to say that C. Marcantel is coming out on the positive side of this deal both money and land. Doubt he would participate otherwise.

Ray 03-01-2010 01:18 PM

There is nothing wrong with that. The offer was made to him, he took it.
He would be dumb to not take it.
But there were several land owners who opted to not do it.

adamsfence 03-01-2010 01:39 PM

well I wonder if they could make a lot to park my camper and just give it to me

Gerald 03-01-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 120836)
They are not filling it in for the land owners. They have no place to put the spoil.
They are offering to build up private marshes to help with erosion and have a place
to put the spoil.
They are trying to put the marsh back to what it looked like before all the erosion.
They are not forcing anyone to take the spoil.
I saw the presentation from the mud pimp for the port a couple years ago.

They are going to do some in the Sabine Refuge also. It is for the best, in my opinion.

Ray.....was this the meeting in Hackberry about 4 years ago.....if so, I was there also.

Ray 03-01-2010 03:41 PM

No, it was at a meeting in Lake Charles about 2 years ago.
He was discussing water security at a boating event.
He gave a good presentation on the dredging along the ship channel.

Gerald 03-01-2010 04:05 PM

The meeting I went to was about the C. of Eng. plans on what to do in the future with the "spoils" after dredging the ship channel.

One of the proposals was to pump the dredges into the area that is NE of Turner's bay. Another area is the area north of long point to make the island 200 to 400 yards wider.

The cost to pump the spoils very far.....just gets too expensive.

Ray 03-01-2010 04:20 PM

They did say it cost a buttload to pump far, but the feds were going to help with the cost. They have to place pumps every so far to boost the mud farther down the line.

Raymond 03-01-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndamendment (Post 120963)
Probably safe to say that C. Marcantel is coming out on the positive side of this deal both money and land. Doubt he would participate otherwise.

If Sabine Pools offered to build you a $50,000 pool in your backyard would you turn it down?:rolleyes: Curt did not create the problem, this is a win win for everyone living in SW La.

Ray 03-01-2010 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 121136)
If Sabine Pools offered to build you a $50,000 pool in your backyard would you turn it down?:rolleyes: Curt did not create the problem, this is a win win for everyone living in SW La.

I agree. They asked him. He is going to have a lot betta marsh when they
finish.

Raymond 03-01-2010 04:33 PM

And a house;)
Terraces were looking good in November also.

2ndamendment 03-01-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 121136)
If Sabine Pools offered to build you a $50,000 pool in your backyard would you turn it down?:rolleyes: Curt did not create the problem, this is a win win for everyone living in SW La.

Raymond and Ray...Fellas' am I reading you two's reply, to my above post, as being negative in nature? My post was simply a statement, by no means giving way to any snide regards towards Marcantel and his business dealings regarding black lake. ;)

huntin fool 03-01-2010 07:04 PM

soo basically..they are just delaying the erosion..you can't "stop" erosion its natural. soo pretty much, they will build the land up..it erodes a couple years later, fthen they just fill it back up...if thats what this means?

Ray 03-02-2010 07:34 AM

It will take more than a year. They should plant the right kinds of grass and it will hold up.
It was more of a fresh water marsh and the saltwater killed the grass, so it eroded.
If you plant saltwater resistant grasses, it will hold up well, it's done every day.

Raymond 03-02-2010 10:44 AM

Drive over the 210 bridge and look east towards the PPG cut. All of the grass on the west side of the cut was planted less than 3 yrs ago and really taking off with growth. PPG paid for this in their settlement with the state in a long standing enviromental suit. One of our CCA board members was instrumental in getting this moving. Everyone can B#*&% about what CCA does not do but nobody acknowledges anything good. Help pull the wagon and stop trying to take the wheels off while it is moving forward.;)

Ray 03-03-2010 07:25 PM

That area looks a lot better. Now if they would do the other side of the bridge.


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