That gave me the chills. I will embarrass myself by throwing my clothes off of I get ants on me. I hate them little dragons.


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I would give my right arm to have a place to hunt like that. And for him to do what he is doing is so dissrespectful. I've gotten tired of fighting people on the reserves and next year if you have a spot open please let me know. You won't be dissapointed.

I rarely comment, but reading this made me so mad i couldn't help it. If he was a new hunter that did not understand the proper way of doing things i could forgive him and cut him some slack. However, he has demonstrated with his actions and childish behavior that not only does he not care to learn the proper way of doing things, but he has a complete and total disregard for anyone around him. I would kick him out immediately and not think twice about it. The fact that you have asked what you should do proves that you are a nicer and more patient person than I am. The hunting season is far too short and days too precious to have it ruined by trash like this.

I would turn the land owner onto this site....more specifically this thread! Next time you are hunting with your deputy buddy, ask him what the charges are for firing a gun in the direction of a man on the force? Curious to find this answer out!

You can't teach stupid!

I have contacted Cajunsorc via Private message on this website as well as facebook after I saw this thread. I did this because I prefer to deal with my issues face to face, and not to open up issues to the public, as they never get the full story, and that is not the type of person I am. I would still be willing to do this, as I don’t have any ill feeling toward Cajunsorc. I thought from the very beginning that we should have met and talked. That probably falls on me.


I appreciated Cajunsorc getting me on the lease, but didn’t see it as a favor as Cajunsorc said there was a first come first serve look at the blinds. We showed up quick and paid up quick. Me and two other buddies. The cost was $4000 plus flooding. Flooding for us costed $300/day, of which it took two days to flood.


We don’t have any issues with the farmer either. He has for the most part done what he said he was going to do. He is an amiable guy and I respect him. The only thing he has been neglectful of was cutting over the rest of the grass in our pond to make feed for the ducks. The said lease is basically a wild grass field grown up and then plowed before the season. The farmer then floods this plowed field and then goes back and levels it out right before the season. Our hole was about 2-3 acres cleared out and flooded. There is maybe another 3 acres that could be cleared that hasn’t been. The farmer said he was going to clear this out during the split, but didn’t. I called the farmer a few days before the opening of second split to see if he had done what he said he was going to do and got the “My tractor is broke” story. Like I said, not too big of a deal though.


The reason I am coming back to this thread and posting now is twofold. I both want to dispel a couple of mistruths that have been told specifically about me and also to let anyone who might try to lease this blind next year know the truths about it.



From the beginning:
The spacing on these blinds is approximately 450 yards apart, which is about ¼ mile. See the attachment. This was a concern of mine early, and I voiced it to both Cajunsorc and the farmer. The concern I had was that his blind was directly south of ours, meaning that a south wind meant a bang bang over our heads. As you might know approximately 60-70% of the hunting days in South Louisiana are south wind days. The farmer said that there hadn’t been any problems. Cajunsorc also said that in his 18 years there wasn’t ever an issue either. I, as well as my buddy, were hesitant, but believed it could work. In my more specific questioning of the farmer he did say that the year before the previous leaser of the blind we were in did have problems with Cajunsorc, or Cajunsorc had problems with him. Cajunsorc accused the leaser of shooting at “birds” while ducks were working him. I don’t think it ended well for the previous leaser, as they left their mojo duck in the blind and decoys at the lease. Their decoys were cut to shreds too as the farmer disked them up. Also, the blind was run over and crushed by the farmer. We had to get floor jacks in there to open it back up so we could hunt in it. I wonder if there isn’t more to this story, but I will never know. LOL. Upon further questioning the farmer informed me that there were some hunters that were hunting to Cajunsorc’s West, maybe 150-300 yards. These shooters also gave Cajunsorc problems. As you can see there were issues.


Cajunsorc informed me that he had leased the blind we were looking at for a long time. He leased it as a goose blind, and would not flood it. He would hunt ducks in his blind and then move north to our blind and hunt geese. Only recently, in the past year he did not have the means to lease both blinds, so he chose to keep only the duck blind. Cajunsorc informed me that his blind was more of a duck blind and that the blind we would be leasing was more of a goose blind. Fair enough.


We hunted our blind the second day of the opener on a south wind and found out that those blinds were too closely spaced. Every time Cajunsorc’s blind shot birds working us would flare like crazy. The volley’s were loud. Hey, we bought into it knowing that though, it is what it is. Also, Cajunsorc’s blind shot a lot as they had a duckie spot. There were 5 hunters that day and they killed 30. You can imagine the shooting. There were a lot of birds though and both blinds did okay. We killed a handful of ducks and 4 specks that day, so not too bad. Cajunsorc was amicable at this point, and things were okay.



Fast forward to the 26th of November. Cajunsorc was out of town. We had a decent morning in our blind. We killed about 9 birds between 2 of us and 1 speck. It was a foggy morning. Cajunsorc’s blind did a lot less shooting, maybe only as much as we did. That was abnormal for them as they have a much better spot and normally shoot a bunch more than us. After our hunt I get a text from Cajunsorc saying he heard we did a lot of shooting. He said his buddy told him that if we worked the birds closer then we would kill a lot more. I responded, and still contend that all “flocks” we shot at that day were 30 yards and in. We were shooting like crap though, and didn’t kill but one or two out of maybe two flocks. Yeah, terrible I know. He basically dismissed what I said and came back with “look man, I know you are new out here, but just let the birds work one more pass to see if they will get lower”. My response to him? How do you know they are going to get lower?....They might not. I left it at that and started to see a problem emerging.


Also, at this point in the season I noticed what Cajunsorc was saying, that he had a more duckie hole than us. They probably got 4 times the opportunities on ducks than we did. To add to that, ducks might work us one or two passes and then go their blind to get shot at or killed. So why should I wait for them to make another pass?
Fast forward to the next Friday. I had a good friend of mine on a hunt, the preacher at the church I go to. It was a North wind day, which have made dreadful hunting days out there this year. Definitely a South wind area. Cajunsorc said he was going to have a couple of clients with him that day. He would be hunting. No big deal. Had a spoon come into the decoys early and missed him three times. That was the only time we fired.
At one point in the hunt I saw a couple of specks coming from the West. They went in between Cajunsorc’s blind and mine heading south. I called at them some and they didn’t respond. They were looking over Cajunsorc’s dekes pretty hard. They didn’t do it though. After that incident I got a text from Cajunsorc saying he was really “PISSED OFF” that I was steady calling at birds that were working his set. I sent him a message saying “Sorry man”, and that was the end of that. I will try to work those specks from a long ways away, but if he has a problem I will stop. As long as the agreement is reciprocal.



Fast forward to two days later Snow geese working over my pond getting steady called at by someone in Cajunsorc’s blind. Steady! Also, a single duck came over my pond at about 50 yards. I could have shot and maybe killed him, but thought no, let’s see if he takes another pass. Duck went south to Cajunsorc’s blind and they killed him. This is the way things go out there. Cajunsorc has a more duckie hole than we do. That is okay, and I don’t think we are really hurting him if he has killed 400 ducks this year. Notice, Cajunsorc, I never said a thing about this until now. Reason is because I didn’t care until you made it an issue. Pertaining to duck calling at least, those birds are going to go where they want to go, I think, regardless of calling. You have 350 dekes and 7 spinners out. The birds are attracted almost exclusively to the set and not the call. Geese I can understand, as specks really respond to the call. I will respect that as long as it goes both ways.



Fast forward to Tuesday, December 20th. South wind morning with a frontline breaking through about midmorning. It started out okay, got a flock of teal in and killed 4. The ducks starting slowing down and the snows starting coming from the North. They were just on the edge of range, 70-90 yards. We hadn’t had hardly any chances on Snows the whole season, so we tried several groups. We did drop one, but were shooting at high ones. I will give Cajunsorc that, they were high. Think about this. By the time we started shooting at the Snows wind is blowing hard out of the south, the frontline is getting closer. The wind and Cajunsorc’s blind are at our back. We are shooting at geese that he says “were flaring their ducks”. Do you think the blind spacing is too close? Buyer beware.



I did call Cajunsorc to talk to him about it. I know we skybusted some. He never called me back.



Fast forward to the last incident which is an outright lie! I lost my phone on Friday, December 23rd in Morse on a goose hunt. I have one who can attest to it, and I have two that can attest to it who were in the blind with me on Christmas morning. I brought two teenaged kids with me on Sunday, December 25th. It was a hard North wind morning. Again, dreadful at the lease. Neither us, nor Cajunsorc’s blind had very many chances at all. One single duck came over kind of high that we fired on. The hunting was super slow, so I let the kids shoot at two flocks of blackbirds and some snipe. They also shot at a Crow. Again, hardly anything flying. I wanted to let them get at least some form of shooting in. I do know what Cajunsorc was talking about when he said firing the way of his blind. There was a crippled black bird to our South. When we got out of the blind we saw it and shot it, end of story. NEVER ,AND I REPEAT NEVER WAS IT IN RESPONSE TO A TEXT MESSAGE THAT I RECEIVED. I DIDN’T HAVE A PHONE!!!! REMOVE THIS PART OF YOUR COMPLAINT!


Another thing, the farmer has told me nothing about complaints being lodged on us. Nothing! Had he communicated with us we would have adjusted accordingly.



We won’t be renewing the lease next year, and I’m sure Cajunsorc isn’t surprised. Why? Cajunsorc has hunted his blind every time I have been there, save one. 14 hunts. In other words, they are always there. You won’t get a break from their shooting. What I have also noticed about his character is that he attempts to be controlling, overbearing, and manipulative of those around him. He kills plenty while still trying to dictate the actions of others. Not to mention, the lease was paid in full by us, not him. He also doesn’t handle issues well in my mind. We could have all sat down, Us, him and the farmer and had discussions in depth about what he wanted. Also, I know we aren’t perfect either, but come on, you could have at least tried to work with us a little more. You could have come and talked to us. Anything but this. For anyone that want’s to lease this spot keep in mind what you have heard. The other blind on the lease is far enough south that it doesn’t have to deal with the spacing issue. They seem like good people too.



cajunsorc and our blinds are too close for comfort. It will be difficult to satisfy both parties in the future.


P.S.
One more aside is that cajunsorc’s blind has taken many a high shot on the duck this year as well. Sometimes they cripple, sometimes they whiff. It happens, and is a non issue to us. Now it becomes an issue because cajunsorc has made it one.

This will get good now

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LOL! :help:

There are always two sides to a story. The civility of the posts will be monitored.

awww come on Sul let em duke it out for a while

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There are 3 sides to every story, and if I was the judge I would say that Duck Enticer has plead his case and has dispelled the rumors brought upon him:)

The blinds are way too close and seems that Cajunsorc is wanting to control all the hunting out there even though he has no say so, this is just from my point of view.

I know if I was getting texts from a guy in another blind telling me what I should and shouldn't do...:pissed:

I know i talked some **** earlier in this post and i would like to apologize. Should have never spoke until i heard both sides

3 sides to every story

Cajunsorc's side
duck enticer's side


and finally


the truth


if this gets moved to gill net may have to go premium

I almost feel sorry for Duck Enticer for getting shafted and paying $4600 to hunt 450 yards from another blind that tells him when he can shoot and when he can't:)

i was thinking the same thing "duck butter" !!!!!

Not a good thing to come to a forum with only 8 weeks left to the season.
Clearly SHOWS intent on "ousting" someone despite the comment about respect.

If there is truly respect, then you let it go and do not re-up the lease.
Just tell the guy "you and I do not hunt the same way" or "this is not going to work out, our hunting philisophy are different"

seems as though you are killing birds, ducks at least, and been going quite a bit.

Any one who has hunted the rice fields can attest to the pressure getting to birds when a blind is hunted consistently.

You have to change tactics.

Just disappointed that two members here cannot take this elsewhere or not take it anywhere and just move on.

and on a side note, grandma always said the first "smeller" is usually the "feller" that did the deed.

Don't know either of you fellers but ............for goodness sake communicate or don't communicate in private.

This story took an interesting turn. Thanks for telling us your side duck enticer. You did it in a very respectful way. No name calling like the OP.

this is true, but if this would be me and i was getting accused of something i would defend myself. Wouldn't you? These were some pretty bad accusations, and i was one of the guilty ones for bashing Duck Enticer and for that i apologize.

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Oh, I can't disagree...............but ACTIONS always tell the tell.
Enticer has handled this magnanomously to say the least.

Now, stand down and let "THE Vindicator" do his work.

If they are almost to 400 birds in blind A then blind B ain't doing much to hurt em just sayin:smokin:

agree with you duck butter why make a fuss if you are getting limits almost every hunt
i think its a control issue

no disrepect to you man i was just saying

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I agree with a lot of what you are saying, and was the reason why I was so hesitant to post at all. I just didn't want it to go here. I guess I am not better than that, which is sad. Part of what me and my buddy had to weigh though, was what is gonna happen to the next guy who comes in and tries to lease this blind. That is why I decided to post. I couldn't stand for someone else to go through something like this.

The secondary issue was the defamation of my character. I'm not perfect, but I am certainly not what he describes. And I most certainly did not shoot at his blind after receiving a text!!!!! I never got the text, I didn't have a phone. Had he chose to talk to me we could have ironed this out.

Glad you came out and were a good 'sport' about it:rotfl: I would have been irate had it been me. If you are the same duck enticer from the refuge forums then I must say I have never seen you say one bad thing about anyone and never make negative comments which says a LOT especially there:)

The funny thing is, is that there will be 100 people try and lease that place next year even though they know what is going on. Duck hunters lack sense sometimes

We good Bro!
good dialouge here.

I hunt/lease with Duck_enticer. I agree with all said and the blinds are much to close. This is not a marsh its an old rice field. There are 4 blinds within 450 yard of each other. Not to mention 2 others that are close enough to flare birds when shooting. The entire area has lots of pressure. This type of hunting scenario is setup to generate conflicts as we have here. Farmer is a great guy. With that said the blind we leased should not be leased for ducks or geese in my opinion. I've been hunting ducks for 20 years this is by far the poorest season to date...very disapointed with shooting oportunities at this location. As for our neighbor to the South no hard feelings, in the future make it a point to voice your opinions privately or to the persons you have a problem with. Discussing problems in an open forum does nothing to resolve the issue.

As for our neighbor to the South no hard feelings, in the future make it a point to voice your opinions privately or to the persons you have a problem with. Discussing problems in an open forum does nothing to resolve the issue.[/QUOTE]


I had several discussions with Duckenticer about the issues I had and each time he said he understood. I still have several texts and a voice message from him concerning those conversations. We had 0 problems with the guys that hunted that blind last year and the only issue that we have had this year is the lack of respect from fellow hunters while trying to work birds. Ideally, the blinds would be further apart. I have an older gentleman that is hunting 250yds to my left and has been there almost every day that I have and we have had 0 problems because he returns the respect that we show him. Shooting blackbirds, crows, etc. is an issue when someone else is trying to work birds. I am very sorry that Duckenticer feels "cheated" but he is the one that has created the problem and I only posted here after several attempts to discuss things with him "one on one". I can't imagine doing the things that duckenticer has done this year, much less after someone talked to me several times regarding my actions. Also, I can tell you that we do not "skyblast" birds from my blind and this is just another attempt by duckenticer to discredit me in light of the accusations made toward him. I will tell you that I only posted on here to "get his attention" in hopes that he would see this and stop his kidlike hunting behavior as I threatened to expose him to everyone. So his only defense has been to come out and attack me and try to discredit everything I have said. My only advice is that he should evaluate his hunting skills and ethics infront of someone else other than me. I was informed by the hunter prior to Christmas to video his actions as proof of what he is doing in the blind. If I do get any incriminating footage I will post it here........

I dont think this one will even reach the gill net

You asked for opinions and hoped he saw it, well he did and he defended himself being very respectful to you. No major mudslinging at all, just his side of the story. Yall two are the only ones who can work this out, but if you killed 400 birds out of your blind just how bad is he messing you up. I know alot of guys who won't kill 400 birds out of their blinds in 5 - 10 yrs. Some places just don't have the birds or guys don't have the time to hunt. Oh well good luck to both of you.

cajun you killed 400 birds chill out he said he is not going to get in next year so let it be you won. now you can get the blind for your self to make sure it is hunted the way you want it to be hunted next season

Frankly, the man paid for a lease. If he chooses to shoot black birds and crows that is his business on his lease. It is really none of your business. You hunt your blind the way you see fit and he will hunt his the way he chooses to hunt. It is neither of your fault that the blinds are too close.

I had several discussions with Duckenticer about the issues I had and each time he said he understood. I still have several texts and a voice message from him concerning those conversations. We had 0 problems with the guys that hunted that blind last year and the only issue that we have had this year is the lack of respect from fellow hunters while trying to work birds. Ideally, the blinds would be further apart. I have an older gentleman that is hunting 250yds to my left and has been there almost every day that I have and we have had 0 problems because he returns the respect that we show him. Shooting blackbirds, crows, etc. is an issue when someone else is trying to work birds. I am very sorry that Duckenticer feels "cheated" but he is the one that has created the problem and I only posted here after several attempts to discuss things with him "one on one". I can't imagine doing the things that duckenticer has done this year, much less after someone talked to me several times regarding my actions. Also, I can tell you that we do not "skyblast" birds from my blind and this is just another attempt by duckenticer to discredit me in light of the accusations made toward him. I will tell you that I only posted on here to "get his attention" in hopes that he would see this and stop his kidlike hunting behavior as I threatened to expose him to everyone. So his only defense has been to come out and attack me and try to discredit everything I have said. My only advice is that he should evaluate his hunting skills and ethics infront of someone else other than me. I was informed by the hunter prior to Christmas to video his actions as proof of what he is doing in the blind. If I do get any incriminating footage I will post it here........[/QUOTE]

If we happened to shoot at crows, blackbirds while your group was working birds I am sorry, it was not intentional. As far as incriminating footage, go ahead and do whatever you feel like you need to. We did try at some far geese and I admit it. Also doug, I don't feel "cheated". Like I said before I posted this for two reasons.

1. To alert other hunters to the problematic situation they might be stepping into.

2. To defend the accusation that I shot at your hunters. I did not, because I did not have a phone. Please remove this accusation, it is completely untrue. Please acknowledge this.

Again, I have no ill feeling toward you Doug. I will not be upset by this situation. Like some of the other posters said, it is just nice to get to see a sunrise and enjoy it with friends. Killing is a bonus.

Duckenticer--If you were not firing at our blind I sincerely apologize for the accusation. However, the coincidence of your firing 3 succesive shots in our direction at one crippled blackbird after a text message was sent to you could easily be misinterpreted. I would like you to set the record straight as to me shooting at birds high as you know we have passed on many "marginal" shots in order to get a close shot and in some cases those birds left with us never getting to shoot. Also, as to the speck calling incident--the speck was south of my blind cupped over my decoys with you calling the entire time and we DID kill it and I did send you a text requesting you not to call at birds I was working because we had refrained from calling at those you were working.

Also, I would like everyone to understand that we DO NOT hold birds in our field-we don't run birds out on the way to the blind. That being said, we are not killing birds that are returning or "want to be in this spot". All of our birds are coming because we make them come--and whether its calling, decoys spread or camo everyone there has the same opportunity as us. Maybe we are just better at convincing the birds to come to us - maybe its the calling, maybe its the decoys, and maybe-just maybe letting the birds get close enough to kill multiple birds out of each group adds up. Just a thought.

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First, let me say Dougs pond doesn't "hold birds". Decoys, calling, and cover makes for better kills.

Next, I was hunting the day of the front when you were "shooting at" those snows. Those were some ridiculous shots. I was the one Calling that day. Nobody else in the blind felt confident enough. I can assure you NO high shots were taken. Should I have taken a couple? Yes. That was miss opportunitys at birds. But I like to work the birds as close as possible especially with a younger kid in the blind.

Fool, you are one class act!!

Lmao this is ridicoulous. Quit wasting band width. Meet somewhere and beat the crap outta eachother and video that and post it here. Cause thus he said she said crap is for the birds. Lol. Sound like to eight year olds

What that guy said. Lol. Let's get it on.

LOL!!!!!

In my opinion, shooting blackbirds in an area with close blinds is not a way to make friends. If it was ducks, no problems. That's what you went hunting for. The first ducks to a blind get shot at. If your ducks come in too late, you just have to take it. Hunting that close, it will happen.

Second, if someone called me or texted me while I am hunting, the phone will get turned off. I don't pay attention to the phone when hunting. I don't normally bring it with me if I were hunting, unless I was hunting alone. Just for emergency calls only.
If it is a slow day, just answering the phone or the ringing can screw up a hunt.
You have to piss but you don't have to answer the phone.

$4600 and blinds 450 yards away is junk IMO....would have passed on that situ....sounds like ya'll fight'n over the same birds....jus my 2 cents....good luck wit ya'lls problem fellas!!

I've read all this, and think I have figured out who the real *** is. Cajunsorc, you are the winner. I am always suspicious of a hunter who says he "works" birds to within 15 yards. Much of your *****ing seems to be an effort to brag about what a great hunter you are. I wouldn't want to hunt a blind, that before I shoot, I would need to peep up to make sure no birds were circling the next blind over.

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SAW THIS ON THE THREAD ABOUT GETTING ON A NEW LEASE AND HAD TO JACK IT AND PUT IT ON HERE. LMAO!!!

You should take up duck hunting instead. I hear there is a good lease coming up next year that is way away from any other blind (450 yards):grinpimp:

You will be fine as long as you don't call at all, don't ever go, don't shoot at geese or ducks, and never ever shoot to the north:rotfl:

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The one time I have hunted this blind, duck enticer was acting completely idiotic and shooting way to high. So seeing that makes me believe it all.

P.s. I like to work the birds as close as possible. I like a challenge and convincing big groups to cup into a tight spot is my shizz. And on top of that the morning I hunted that hole I had a 11 year old in the blind, so that gave another motive to work the birds a little closer.

Just my .2

That's all well and good. But the man paid for a lease and if he chooses to skybust or pass shoot it really is no one's business. He paid, it's his!