i'm glad i'm a premium member, cause this thread is gill net bound

bottom line to all yalls arguments is that there are too many variables to think yall can come up with one way to fix the problem... duck hunting is over in louisiana.. if you want to see mass numbers of birds like the old days then you need to go up north(OK,KS). everywhere you turn there is an idiot putting in another blind 100 yds across the marsh or 2 levees over in the rice field.. another reason is we are losing so much habitat on the coast to salt water, all this hybrid rice that is now being planted.. there is just too much to take into consideration to blame for the problem... but i will say that i would like to see somethin done up north to try and help reset the migration patterns as well has making new habitat down here for the birds to feed and rest...

How about a 7 day duck season......NO LIMITs

x1000!!!!!! I agree 100%

I agree. Good post

It don't matter what we have W, people are still going to whine like little ()'s

the bird numbers are high, and every year is " a record hatch".. so the birds are sustaining good numbers... there are just not good numbers making it down here!

:rolleyes: Louisiana kills mored ducks than ANY STATE, yes even Arkansas, Kansas, and Oklahoma!

We will always kill ducks, ducks such as gadwalls will always come down here no matter how much rice is planted in Missouri and Arkansas. You guys think ducks and you think MALLARDS. We still get plenty of mallards. We have the best duck hunting ANYWHERE. Where else can you go and shoot a limit of 6 ducks of 6 different species? We got it good, don't drink the koolaid about mallards. Those are the easiest ducks to kill, give me teal, gadwall, and pintails any day of the season. Wanna see mallards go to the park

2 or 3 years ago my buddy went to stuggart ark. On a guided hunt. When they got there almost all the fields were froze except the ones that the guide service had kept the water open, and he took video of ducks by the thousands in them and also the canals and ditches that the birds were keeping open themselves. This hybrid rice is gonna kill alot of the hunting down here if it's gonna continue to be planted.

No no no! You are thinking mallards again, the flyways are shifting right now and it has very very little to do with what is happening up north. Songbirds are even changing their migratory patterns and it has nothing to with practices up north. These are WELL documented

I can show you videos of thousands of ducks in several places in Louisiana any time during the season, any time. They have ducks but we have MORE. They may have more mallards, but we have more ducks.

Man its all global warming's fault...it doesnt get as cold during winter so they dont have to fly as far south. If yall wouldnt all drive gas burners and jacked up diesel rigs we would have birds here. Geeez!:pissed:







By the way........j/k lol lmao rofl:D

Again, bc Louisiana has so many hunters. You can't tell me the hunting isn't better in the northern states. I'm not saying your wrong about Louisiana kilimg the most ducks, but I bet that's a grand total. I would like to see a per hunter per effort average

when i refer to ducks i'm not refering to only mallards i'm speaking of ducks in general. For example the holmwood sweetlake area south of lake charles. Anybody can remember seeing multiple bodies of geese/ducks in these areas in the past, but for the last few years the migration has changed due to a lack of food planted. It's simple no food no ducks/geese. Another example helms road south of lake charles again in the 90's that i can remember if you had a blind down this road you had a top notch blind. You could drive down that road and see thousands of waterfowl now when you past you don't even see a duck/goose down that whole road due to the lack of farming.

first off everybody already knows that louisiana kills more ducks cause there are 10x as many hunter here than in any other state!.. and the reason why northern states kill mallards so damn easy is because 80% of the ones they kill were born less than 6 months ago from when they kill them!!! the birdds we get down here are the same birds that been coming down for generations... and that is why we are seeing less and less is because the new offsprings are not making it and then there offsprings, offsprings arent making it...

We have more public hunting land available than most states, especially up north. It seems crowded, but you don't know crowded til you go to Arkansas and hunt public land. For every good picture someone posts up there are hundreds of people who scratched that day. Same with fishing, you see a pic of limits and people think they can just go up and do that. Again, Louisiana KILLS more ducks than ANY STATE. How is duck hunting dead in Louisiana? We are also starting to get more whistling ducks hanging around and bw teal are staying here during the winter which is really adding to the number of ducks wintering down here. We have it GREAT. You want to kill mallards consistently go to Kansas or Oklahoma or Arkansas, but you will pay out the butt in Arkansas for prime hunting ground, fo revery good blind there are 10 'garholes'.

Again talking mallards, who cares! Its a silly park duck that is the EASIEST duck to call in and kill. You said duck hunting is DEAD in Louisiana, and then say we kill more ducks than ANY STATE:rotfl: how is that dead? We are getting even more ducks with the whistling ducks and teal taking up the slack for the mallards

Your right....It don't matter what kind of evidence or biology work or what the numbers are...

Just like the 15trout limit in Big Lake....if they (politics) want in they will get it........BOTTOM LINE

15 Trout limit in big lake was done by paper pushing politics with ZERO FACTs............So if they want 30 day duck season....By damn they will get it...



OTHER THAN THAT ...................:p:p:p

(Side Bar) Hey, Jared and the Feeesherman, cool down guys. Go take an ice bath or something.

(End Side Bar)

There are a ton of things that go into the number of ducks killed. There is more habitat up north, so more ducks are stopping up north now because of all the work DU and other organizations do up there. That is also a combination of weather, like someone pointed out. This past winter was one of the more milder in the past several (first one in I believe three years that we didn't get snow in Lake Charles). We do still have a lot of ducks down here, there is no doubting that. But I guarantee you we have more hunter efforts down here than a lot of the northern states do, so that is going to affect the number of ducks that are killed.

Now with all that being said, do I think there needs to be changes? Yeah, if it is the right change. I think the biggest thing being considered at this point is 3 zones, 2 splits. From the design I looked at, which was a week or two ago so don't hold me to this, it is 3 zones/2 splits. As it has been pointed out, splits and total days are based on duck numbers.

I think we can all agree though: we want what is best for the sport. It's agreeing on what is best that is the problem.

Venice and Wax Lake had BANNER years this year due to the drought. Ducks move, they can fly, they go where there is food and water. Natural food, waterfowl have come down here for thousands of years when there was not one rice field. They adapt, some may stay up north annd get fat on rice in Arkansas, but we still get the Lions' Share:) You got it good, don't start talking bout the 'good old days' they are here right now, you are living em

First off, where are y'all getting this reduced season nonsense? This needs to be nipped right now. There are still ducks in the coastal marsh that have yet to leave for the breeding ponds:) The pond counters have not even probably serviced their airplanes to get ready for the counts. We will not know until August what the season forecast will be. There is no evidence for a reduction in days and/or limits yet:help:

No need for public land to hunt on up north, permission to hunt ag fields is too easy to get. I'm not saying our hunting sucks or is dead, I'm saying it is better up north. I have friends who go to Oklahoma every year and smash ducks and geese but kill few geese here. All I'm trying to say is the hunting is better up there due to the lack of pressure.

1,840,000 ducks counted in November of 2011

One million eight hundred and forty thousand ducks in November, yet duck hunting in Louisiana is over:rotfl:

I agree, y'all all give up your leases and sell your gear and tell everybody else

You must hunt mallards in the parks cause IMO mallards are the hardest duck to kill hands down. And thats why they are such prize to kill. I bet Phil Robertson won't agree with you. Just like someone else said they kill so many up north cause they are 6 months old.

Haha im good. I realized people can be wrong on the internet. I was just putting forth my idea. Not everyone will agree. But it is a fact more and more habitat is manipulated along the entire mississippi flyway to mimic what we have down here.

Roger..........everyone should sell all there guns and Decoys.........

Post what you have and ill bid on them:D

And this is because the flyway is changing. Oklahoma is now a duck hunting state because of this, once people figure this, it will get pressured, Kansas as well. Again, you are talking MALLARDS, that is what is killed there. The odds of them getting 6 species of ducks on a hunt is nil

I will disagree with you on that..........I been duck hunting since the age of 7 years old

I would say a Mallard is top 5 easiest to kill...but Black Mallard (molted duck) is the Hardest

Easiest Ducks to kill over my years of hunting are

#1 Teal
#2 Spoonbills
#3 Gray Ducks
#4 Mallards
#5 PinTail

No park, no lease. I just don't see why the love for a mallard

No I'm not talking mallards. They killed a few, but it was mostly widgeon, redheads, and greys. You would surprised at how mixed their bags were on the public land ponds. I agree the flyway and migration patters are changing

You duck hunt like 3 times a year. :p What else you gonna kill besides those 5 ducks? Woodies which are easy. Widgeons which when they are around are easy. And maybe some open water ducks which are all stupid. Pintail are pretty easy to kill. We shoot 100s in Mexico. And a good bit in PI. I agree though, a mottle duck is also one of the hardest to kill.

It makes for a cool picture to put on Facebook while holding your gun with the meat stick sticker on it lol. If I had my pick of any strap of birds, I'll take 2 wood ducks and the rest squealers

Last post on this, but if ducks are shortstopping and all how is it that Mexico gets hundreds of thousands of ducks each and every year?

This is the truth! The internet is KILLING duck hunting. People posting pictures and they may hunt 30 times and have 3 'good' hunts. They don't post the bad days they post the good and people think they are just killing the heck out of ducks.

Why not 3 wood ducks?

I haven't hunted as much the last few years because fishing has been so good....but when I hunted for 7 years on the Lac. Company we had 18 blinds and I hunted just about every day.....I have a picture album with solo hunts I made with all green heads and hens....I use to hunt every afternoon and kill just mallards...


I made 7 duck hunts not counting teal season and we killed mallard every trip

Now I only keep teal and woodies..

1. Total ducks killed in Atlantic Flyway
2. On the right = Total ducks killed in Louisiana
3. On the bottom = Total ducks killed in Central Flyway (includes TX, OK, and Kansas)

We killed more ducks than the ENTIRE Atlantic Flyway
We killed more ducks that the ENTIRE Central Flyway
We have been on a net INCREASE of ducks dying since 2005
Central Flyway is going down, Louisiana is UP

One more thing is that whenever people talk about the 'good ol days' most are talking the 1970s. Look at that compared to now. We are in the good ol days;)

Good ol days did not mean more ducks just ment less hunters ...like one rice field blind per 500 acres.....now you have 30 or 40 per 500 acres

I like squealers a little more but I would still want a few wood ducks to pot roast. That good with you?

How many times you hear about Arkansas? or ALL the ducks are in Missouri?

1st one is Arkansas, 2nd is Missouri. We killed more than both combined

/rant.

so duck butt.. you telling me that the north dont kill any other species? i went to oklahoma this year and smashed the birds for 3 days with 5 people... killed 3 mallards the whole time.. and biologists were amazed that we killed our bellies everyday.. and as for killing other species, we killed mainly wigeon and pintail, and as for as a mallard being a park duck and easy to kill, when was the last time you killed your limit of straight mallards? what about a grey duck, you cant tell me they dont come in your face to die... and to argue about the number of ducks we kill is just straight ignorant.. we all know that louisiana kills more ducks do to the number of hunters, it is in our heritage and culture.. other states cant say that they have that like us.. bottom line is everybody has different points of view about this but we all have one thing in common, to help us people form louisiana have a better hunting season! so for you to sit and argue about numbers is completely irrelevant...

duckbutt, go somewhere else with all those graphs..

"W", where did you hunt for the company?

here is some hunts from one of my buddies in Oklahoma the past few years:rolleyes:

Guy's yall got a great debate going here. Watch the name calling please.

I agree with W on the good old days statement. When I was in my 20's I would hunt almost everyday of the season. We hunt a salt/brackish marsh. Our main birds were teal, gadwall and widgeon. Limits were easy. But, we hardly ever saw another hunter in the area. Now there are 6 blinds in that area.

I didnt hunt for the Company I use to farm it with Paul Watson... from 95-00 and hunted till 2002

im buddies with those guys u just posted up... i was just curious cause i been hunting on the plant for goin on 12 yrs

Want to talk about Good Ol Days

My dad hunted in Pine Island on the Garbarino Farm for years....... I recall one day we got there (must of been a Fri Afternoon) and the Old man Garbarino told my dad he wanted a all Pintail to cook for Saturday football games...... So Me , My Dad, Dads Buddy and Cousin all walked to the blind from the camp and killed all pintail in no time it seemed

I was only about 10 maybe and shooting a signal shot 4-10 , but can recall asking why I could not shoot those green heads and had to shoot the long head ducks only..

Back then it was a points system and you could shoot the hell out of birds.......That Place in Pine Island was a duck heaven and now you cant buy a duck there......

I hunted from when you turned on the plant road all the way till the 4 Corner...all the stuff on the right..

Me and Gayland Klumpp made that marsh blind in the back off the Bell City Drain Ditch........