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cgoods17 08-10-2012 09:39 AM

I have been blowing James's calls ever since him and Nathan went seperate ways years ago... Redbone and Riceland are obviously very similar, but I have yet to find a call that is of better sound or quality than Riceland.. Yes you can kill specks with a lot of different calls but, you are not going to get the range of sounds with such ease in any other call than a Riceland. My vote goes to James and Bill for RCC..

SULPHITE 08-10-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 475144)
why are you so against ducks/duck hunters? Did you have a bad experience with a duck or aflac?

add costas, columbia shirts, buffs and ducks calls that cost more than 17.99 to the list...lmao

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sulphite (Post 475165)
add costas, columbia shirts, buffs and ducks calls that cost more than 17.99 to the list...lmao


i'm telling you what the hell! Lol!!!!!!

cgoods17 08-10-2012 09:57 AM

calls cost more now becuase they sound way better then they did before and made better... ever think of that.. when was the last time your plastice haydels call didnt crack after a year or two?

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 475172)
calls cost more now becuase they sound way better then they did before and made better... Ever think of that.. When was the last time your plastice haydels call didnt crack after a year or two?


now duck calls my favorite is still the dr85, but the bluewing teal calls i buy one every year, cause the guts just fall out of them. Their speck calls take alot of air and don't sound near as good imo.

cmcnabb 08-10-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 475172)
calls cost more now becuase they sound way better then they did before and made better... ever think of that.. when was the last time your plastice haydels call didnt crack after a year or two?

Agreed. And I'm not sure how much a Riceland cost but I highly doubt its over 200, if they are even 200. And thats for the top of the line call. The poly sounds real good and is real cheap. But how hard is it to save 200 dollars from february to november?

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cmcnabb (Post 475175)
agreed. And i'm not sure how much a riceland cost but i highly doubt its over 200, if they are even 200. And thats for the top of the line call. The poly sounds real good and is real cheap. But how hard is it to save 200 dollars from february to november?


x2! I've personally have talked to james on the phone, and he seems like a great person and stands behind his product 100%.

Duck Butter 08-10-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 475172)
calls cost more now becuase they sound way better then they did before and made better... ever think of that.. when was the last time your plastice haydels call didnt crack after a year or two?

I have had the same dr85 for close to 20 years:), I took out the end and stuck it in an Olt barrel, because the DR barrel is a little too skinny. still going strong, and sounds great

I am not trying to get in an argument over anything duck related cuz people get butthurt so quick, and its August

cgoods17 08-10-2012 10:22 AM

its all good... everybody is intitled to there own oppinion... i grew up blowign dr85 but then I wanted to advance my skills and there is only so much you can do with a call like that... my opinion is that everybody blows different and have there own preference and from my experiences, calls are almost like anything in life, you pay for what you get...

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by duck butter (Post 475186)
i have had the same dr85 for close to 20 years:), i took out the end and stuck it in an olt barrel, because the dr barrel is a little too skinny. Still going strong, and sounds great

i am not trying to get in an argument over anything duck related cuz people get butthurt so quick, and its august


that's what we're talking about! You're the one that said i was smoking to pay $200 for a goose call, and you just expect for me to keep my mouth shut you don't know me and that's not going to happen. It's my choice if i want to pay whatever for my equipment, and you have the right to your own opinion, but it's still my choice. I don't even denie that i spend alot of my hard earned money to duck hunt every year and if i don't kill a bird all year the next year i will do the same, cause there's more to it than killing a limit.

Top Dawg 08-10-2012 10:30 AM

It's not spending $200. It's the principle of spending $200 on a call. If people want to spend $200 on a call that is fine and dandy. But I won't. X2 on the DR85. I love the sound of that call. As far as bluewing. Primos wench ;)

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by top dawg (Post 475192)
it's not spending $200. It's the principle of spending $200 on a call. If people want to spend $200 on a call that is fine and dandy. But i won't. X2 on the dr85. I love the sound of that call. As far as bluewing. Primos wench ;)


i've called in alot of ducks with the dr85 it sounds great.

Top Dawg 08-10-2012 10:35 AM

X2


Btw. I has wasted a lot of money on hunting stuff overthe years!! Lol!

SULPHITE 08-10-2012 10:35 AM

I've reverted to making calls out of old tampons cartridges and old shaved down hair combs

readily available, and most all of not much $$$

Duck Butter 08-10-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 475188)
its all good... everybody is intitled to there own oppinion... i grew up blowign dr85 but then I wanted to advance my skills and there is only so much you can do with a call like that... my opinion is that everybody blows different and have there own preference and from my experiences, calls are almost like anything in life, you pay for what you get...

I paid $15 20 years ago and someone pays $200 and doesn't last a season:grinpimp:


I am just pointing this out, there are thousands and thousands of calls out there and to each his own. If you want to spend $500 on a call go ahead

DGG - the 'smoker' thing was just to say that a $200 call didn't last a year, we only have a few of these little emoticons or whatever they are to express our 'mood'. No offense

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 475198)
I've reverted to making calls out of old tampons cartridges and old shaved down hair combs

readily available, and most all of not much $$$


LOL!!!!!

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by duck butter (Post 475199)
i paid $15 20 years ago and someone pays $200 and doesn't last a season:grinpimp:


I am just pointing this out, there are thousands and thousands of calls out there and to each his own. If you want to spend $500 on a call go ahead

dgg - the 'smoker' thing was just to say that a $200 call didn't last a year, we only have a few of these little emoticons or whatever they are to express our 'mood'. No offense


it's all good man

Duck Butter 08-10-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 475205)
it's all good man

:)Good cuz its August and we got plenty of time for this!

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by duck butter (Post 475208)
:)good cuz its august and we got plenty of time for this!


lol!!!!! Yeah i know

Top Dawg 08-10-2012 10:49 AM

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DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 10:50 AM

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but this will be here before you know it. Sunflowers:)
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yeah you right!!!! It's getting close man and i can't wait for september.

cgoods17 08-10-2012 11:27 AM

whoever pay $200 for a call is: a) not smart, and b) not hurting for money

Spunt Drag 08-10-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 475212)
But this will be here before you know it. Sunflowers:)
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Get that pic outta my face!!!!!

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 475233)
whoever pay $200 for a call is: A) not smart, and b) not hurting for money


a) you don't even know me man to be making comments like that. B) you have never heard of saving money for something you want?

Duck Butter 08-10-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 475233)
whoever pay $200 for a call is: a) not smart, and b) not hurting for money

didn't you just get on to me saying 'you get what you pay for':grinpimp:

Ducktrickster 08-10-2012 12:45 PM

Riceland

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by duck butter (Post 475255)
didn't you just get on to me saying 'you get what you pay for':grinpimp:


thank you! I mean you not smart for paying to much for something, but if you buy stuff of lesser value you get what you pay for.

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 12:49 PM

HERE YOU GO IT'S WHAT YOU TYPED

its all good... everybody is intitled to there own oppinion... i grew up blowign dr85 but then I wanted to advance my skills and there is only so much you can do with a call like that... my opinion is that everybody blows different and have there own preference and from my experiences, calls are almost like anything in life, you pay for what you get...

SULPHITE 08-10-2012 12:50 PM

I also spray paint walmart sweatshirts for camo with 1/4 full spraypaint cans i collect

Found a 1994 used Charlotte Hornet Starter Jacket which I camoed...all about the benjamins.

Duck Butter 08-10-2012 12:53 PM

I sprinkle diamonds on everything I eat

Top Dawg 08-10-2012 01:02 PM

Paint milk jugs black and use em for decoys!

noodle creek 08-10-2012 01:05 PM

The thing is, no one kills every duck or goose that they see. If you're going to spend money on good shells, good decoys, 1500 dollar shotguns, and boats, why not buy the best sounding call on the market? People that are complaining about the principle of spending that much on a call probably shoot guns way more expensive than a remington 870 that will kill birds just as good as a 1500 dollar shotgun. And when each call is hand tuned and spun individually, and is built of quality material, yeah it's going to cost more than 20 bucks

noodle creek 08-10-2012 01:10 PM

Whena group of birds doesn't come in, it never crosses your mind what maybe would have happened if you had a better sounding call? I'm talking about specks here. I'm not going to lie i blow a haydels duck call, but as far as geese, some calls clearly sound much better than others

Spunt Drag 08-10-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 475274)
I sprinkle diamonds on everything I eat

Makes my dookie twinkle man!

Top Dawg 08-10-2012 01:13 PM

I shot an 870 all the way up til second split of last year. And I shoot the cheapest shells on the market. 6$ a box!

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 475284)
the thing is, no one kills every duck or goose that they see. If you're going to spend money on good shells, good decoys, 1500 dollar shotguns, and boats, why not buy the best sounding call on the market? People that are complaining about the principle of spending that much on a call probably shoot guns way more expensive than a remington 870 that will kill birds just as good as a 1500 dollar shotgun. And when each call is hand tuned and spun individually, and is built of quality material, yeah it's going to cost more than 20 bucks


agree 100%, but also when you pay 5-7k for a blind to kill specks you want to be able to put the favor in your odds right?

Duck Butter 08-10-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 475293)
I shot an 870 all the way up til second split of last year. And I shoot the cheapest shells on the market. 6$ a box!

but now you are a baller with that new gun, but you did get some extra money from that saltycajun tourney last year though
:grinpimp:

Top Dawg 08-10-2012 01:20 PM

Lol it was the trout shootout. Get it right! Lolbut it was time for a new gun. Like I said. Whenever my call fails me I will upgrade maybe one day. Gotta win another tournament first though!

cmcnabb 08-10-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 475289)
Whena group of birds doesn't come in, it never crosses your mind what maybe would have happened if you had a better sounding call? I'm talking about specks here. I'm not going to lie i blow a haydels duck call, but as far as geese, some calls clearly sound much better than others

I agree. After every group that doesn't come in and give it up I try to figure out why and eliminate all of the "whys". And I know it wasn't because my call didn't sound just like a goose.

Back to the point of the original posters question, both calls sound great. Learning how to blow either one shouldn't be that hard. Learning how to use it will take many years and you will never truly master how to use it. Anyone who says they kill a limit of specks every hunt is telling a boldfaced lie. Thats a fact

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 475273)
I also spray paint walmart sweatshirts for camo with 1/4 full spraypaint cans i collect

Found a 1994 used Charlotte Hornet Starter Jacket which I camoed...all about the benjamins.


LOL!!!!!!

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cmcnabb (Post 475302)
i agree. After every group that doesn't come in and give it up i try to figure out why and eliminate all of the "whys". And i know it wasn't because my call didn't sound just like a goose.

Back to the point of the original posters question, both calls sound great. Learning how to blow either one shouldn't be that hard. Learning how to use it will take many years and you will never truly master how to use it. Anyone who says they kill a limit of specks every hunt is telling a boldfaced lie. Thats a fact


agree 100%. This pretty much sums it up my redbone sounded awesome i just got rubbed the wrong way by the customer service.

Top Dawg 08-10-2012 01:27 PM

I kill my limit of specks every hunt. :)

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by top dawg (Post 475309)
i kill my limit of specks every hunt. :)


LOL! Yeah and i've got some ocean fron property in arizona i'll sale you real cheap.

Top Dawg 08-10-2012 01:36 PM

I'm not sure how much ricelands are but someone has one for sale on the refuge for $175

DUCKGOGETTER 08-10-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by top dawg (Post 475318)
i'm not sure how much ricelands are but someone has one for sale on the refuge for $175


i've paid $200 for one before and as someone posted up earlier about not hurting for money. In the words of david chapelle "i'm rich *****"!

Raymond 08-10-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cgoods17 (Post 475172)
calls cost more now becuase they sound way better then they did before and made better... ever think of that.. when was the last time your plastice haydels call didnt crack after a year or two?

That's a huge leap to say they sound better so justifiably should be more expensive. Call makers can get top dollar because that's what the market, ie; duck hunters will purchase. Calls don't sound a bit different now than 25 years ago. TV has created the gotta have it mentality in All of Us and that's why they charge a hundred times what it cost to manufacture. Akrylic isn't expensive, the cnc machine can be but I can setup a lathe in my garage with a bar feed and run 24 hrs a day producing calls. The Two RNT calls I own probably only cost at most $10 each to manufacture and sold for $150.00 (disclaimer; they were presents). Marketing is why leisure products are expensive not quality or space age technology.

Top Dawg 08-10-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 475322)
That's a huge leap to say they sound better so justifiably should be more expensive. Call makers can get top dollar because that's what the market, ie; duck hunters will purchase. Calls don't sound a bit different now than 25 years ago. TV has created the gotta have it mentality in All of Us and that's why they charge a hundred times what it cost to manufacture. Akrylic isn't expensive, the cnc machine can be but I can setup a lathe in my garage with a bar feed and run 24 hrs a day producing calls. The Two RNT calls I own probably only cost at most $10 each to manufacture and sold for $150.00 (disclaimer; they were presents). Marketing is why leisure products are expensive not quality or space age technology.

X10000000000. Thank you. They don't cost more cuz they sound better. They cost more because people pay it lol

cmcnabb 08-10-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 475322)
That's a huge leap to say they sound better so justifiably should be more expensive. Call makers can get top dollar because that's what the market, ie; duck hunters will purchase. Calls don't sound a bit different now than 25 years ago. TV has created the gotta have it mentality in All of Us and that's why they charge a hundred times what it cost to manufacture. Akrylic isn't expensive, the cnc machine can be but I can setup a lathe in my garage with a bar feed and run 24 hrs a day producing calls. The Two RNT calls I own probably only cost at most $10 each to manufacture and sold for $150.00 (disclaimer; they were presents). Marketing is why leisure products are expensive not quality or space age technology.


If you think a speck call from 25 years ago sounds like a riceland or redbone, your smokin some good dope. But I do agree they don't cost that much to make. Sure you can buy a lathe and spin calls but do you know how to build troughs for speck calls? I highly doubt it. Does your truck you drive cost as much to manufacture as you paid for it? Your not always paying for the manufacturing costs, your paying for the idea.

Spunt Drag 08-10-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 475322)
That's a huge leap to say they sound better so justifiably should be more expensive. Call makers can get top dollar because that's what the market, ie; duck hunters will purchase. Calls don't sound a bit different now than 25 years ago. TV has created the gotta have it mentality in All of Us and that's why they charge a hundred times what it cost to manufacture. Akrylic isn't expensive, the cnc machine can be but I can setup a lathe in my garage with a bar feed and run 24 hrs a day producing calls. The Two RNT calls I own probably only cost at most $10 each to manufacture and sold for $150.00 (disclaimer; they were presents). Marketing is why leisure products are expensive not quality or space age technology.

There was a lady one time that owned a women's clothing shop. She had some hideous hats that she couldn't sell even after lowering the price next to nothing. One day a marketing guru told her to jack the price up to something outrageous. After that she couldn't keep em off the shelves. They became the thing to have. Me personally I don't care who blows what and how much it costs. The only concern you should have is the birds your calling at.

Duck Butter 08-10-2012 02:14 PM

I sorta agree with the speck call aspect, the newer ones are probably better. There were probably only a handful of speck calls 25 years ago and sure they killed specks but would think now the sound has improved but its because there is more of a market now.

Duck calls have probably gotten a little better sounding straight out the box now than 25 years ago as well, but there was never a such thing as a $100+ duck call 25 years ago that I am aware of. Some of the new nice calls are more for collectors


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