website please, never mind. It's who I thought it was and he doesn't have anything worth over $900. Another Charlatan "Marketing" "British" dogs without any preformance in the pedigree that can be proven. All I can say about "British" dogs is "Buyer Beware", All of them are over priced by 50%.

If you are going to consider buying a British dog for $6000 that you saw on a website, you probably shouldnt have the dog regarless. and like Ray Money said, you are about to buy a dog you have only seen a picture of on the internet and pay about $5100 more than its probably worth b/c it barks with an accent.

I say get what you want. I train with people that talk bad about British dogs and I personally feel like my British lab can run circles around theirs. The main thing is be happy with what you purchase. If you go watch the dog run and he is what you are looking for then move forward with it. The main thing i can tell you is stay consistent and pick a program and stick with it. Not everyone is looking for a FT champion, some people are looking for a gundog that can live in the house and ride in the cab of the truck. Dogs are just like everything else in life, everyone has an opinion on what you are getting and 99% of them do not know what you are actually looking for.

With all this being said, I purchased a British Lab and thought long and hard about the program I was on. With a small amount of coaching from my life coach, I changed my program from a no collar somewhat pudding sandwich to Mike Lardy's program. My dog has flourished under this program with the tutelage of what I consider qualified trainer.

Good luck with your purchase and train hard.

Brown nose!

Carry on folks;)

Here's ole Ace doing some jam up dog training, I am not sure what he is trying to accomplish. With 9 males and 15 females it also looks like he is more into running a Puppy Mill than Training Kennel.:(

http://youtu.be/IP6jzsp_zXE

http://youtu.be/YRSB6c_3Zm4

Ease up Ray. Not everyone wants a dog that will bust through a block of 500 dekes full of feathers to retrieve a bird that fell 100 yards out of the pond in knee high rice stubble.

I'm not sure your serious with the JAM up statement?

about 13 years ago I traveled to Terrell Texas to buy a puppy from a pretty solid HRC bloodline. I started the training and then sent him off for the force training. Retrieved his first hunted bird at around a year old. Crippled Spec that was so big he had to drag it back by the neck! LOL... he became my hunting buddy for many years and retrieved thousands of birds all over the south. He died last year of cancer. I'll get another one soon but he'll have some big paws to fill......

Bbrown, what training group is that you train with? Must be group of champions.

in the end, you can buy whatever you want if have the $$$. British or Irish or German, even Japanese. I am not knocking Britsh dogs, just the people that will sucker someone into paying $6,000 or $9,000 for a dog that is "imported".

I will answer that for Raymond, he is dead serious about the jam up statement.

I trained a non-retriever from the book Water Dog and had excellent results. The blood line does stack it in your favor, but in the end a dog is only as smart as its owner, and only as good as the time you put into it. I was lucky enough to have a wife that followed the book with me and worked him while I was gone.

Everyone does have their own opinion and experience, find what you feel is best and roll with it - your gut feeling is worth more than any opinion or dog money can buy.

thought he may have been poking fun. I saw 2 things that dog did that would drive me crazy.

believe me i wuz;)

I was hoping so! You know of any breeders with puppies?

http://www.retrievertraining.net/for...ughter-*Repeat

http://www.retrievertraining.net/for...n-the-River-JH

http://www.retrievertraining.net/for...le-9-weeks-old

In that grady litter, Calli has on hell of a sire.....just sayin I've seen his stock a time or twoAttachment 42877

Speak for yourself.