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flounder_smacker 02-11-2013 08:27 PM

doesn't matter if it was beer or his truck, don't steal other peoples sh*t.

whunter29 02-11-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 547975)
doesn't matter if it was beer or his truck, don't steal other peoples sh*t.

Exactly

Keywest18 02-11-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by whunter29 (Post 547977)
Exactly

X2. Whatever happened to offering a bum a beer to buy a case.....

"W" 02-11-2013 08:55 PM

How I see it... If your out at 2-3am nothing good can come from it

If your on someone property breaking into someone private owned thing , you should prepare for the consequences !

Would I shoot at someone in my truck??? Yes all 30 rounds!!


If you take the chance to steal or rob someone you take the chance to pay!!

Its not yours so leave it alone and you will never ever never have to worry about getting shot for stealing !!



(if that is the true story)

CajunSaint 02-11-2013 09:01 PM

This a horrific situation!! My question is three rounds fired and three hits, at a moving truck???

I have ????? JMHO!

southern151 02-11-2013 09:05 PM

Yeah, cs. I feel the same. 3 shots, allegedly while they are fleeing or, even already in the truck. One shot in the head and, the driver shot in the ankle? Was he already in the truck? There are a lot of details missing so, I will wait to pass judgement.

CajunSaint 02-11-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 548000)
Yeah, cs. I feel the same. 3 shots, allegedly while they are fleeing or, even already in the truck. One shot in the head and, the driver shot in the ankle? Was he already in the truck? There are a lot of details missing so, I will wait to pass judgement.

Some facts have to be hidden!

Not that it makes a difference but we lived in this subdivision 12 years ago. It was a very quiet place...

Dink 02-11-2013 09:16 PM

Story has been changing. Kids were in a borrowed truck. Seth guy saw truck and thought it was the person yhat had stolen his mons purse in november. He had been drinking heavily at the parade earlier. Story now is that the kids may not have stopped but seth shot the jeep as it was passing infront of his house.......


All hearsay of course

southern151 02-11-2013 09:26 PM

Yeah, 3 rounds from a Beretta and, no one called the police? If he was hit in the ankle and, was already in the truck...another hit in the back of the head inside the truck. Some of this don't add up but, I'm sure law enforcement is weighing all the evidence thoroughly.

CajunSaint 02-11-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 548007)
Yeah, 3 rounds from a Beretta and, no one called the police? If he was hit in the ankle and, was already in the truck...another hit in the back of the head inside the truck. Some of this don't add up but, I'm sure law enforcement is weighing all the evidence thoroughly.

Wasn't this in the police report??

jdm4x43732 02-11-2013 09:37 PM

If I were firing a warning shot I wouldn't have aimed at the cab. Can't say what I'd have done cause just last week I was running around the yard in my Hanes and cowboy boots cause I saw a shadow in the yard. Had a Judge in my hand, didn't see anyone but I've had trouble with theft before. Don't know if I could kill em for breaking into my truck but I could definately make them pick another house next time. Catch em, take all their valuables, clothes, and shoes then send them on their way.

weedeater 02-11-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Country Boy (Post 547963)
My aunt is friends with the mom of the boy that was driving the car also he is the one that was shot in the ankle, she also told me they were just trying to get some beer, he had called his mom and told her he was shot and friend was gone in back seat also told her he was going home but she told him go to hospital and would meet him there.

I love the whole "just trying to get a beer" story...... very convenient when you are caught on someone else's property, that brings to mind something I have heard about most homes broken into are done by someone who knows the owner and knows what they are looking for..... not passing judgment but could by some crazy chance these boys really have been the ones commuting these other crimes but this time they got caught?..... makes a person wonder

southern151 02-11-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CajunSaint (Post 548009)
Wasn't this in the police report??

Yeah, I think so. Read about 15 different things on it today so, I could be wrong. I'd figure some info is being withheld until every stone is turned. I hope that is the case, anyway. Again, I won't speculate.

CajunSaint 02-11-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jdm4x43732 (Post 548010)
If I were firing a warning shot I wouldn't have aimed at the cab. Can't say what I'd have done cause just last week I was running around the yard in my Hanes and cowboy boots cause I saw a shadow in the yard. Had a Judge in my hand, didn't see anyone but I've had trouble with theft before. Don't know if I could kill em for breaking into my truck but I could definately make them pick another house next time. Catch em, take all their valuables, clothes, and shoes then send them on their way.

Sounds good to me!!!

An eighteen year old with several break ins and no help from previous problems???

I'm surely not saying this is the right decision but I still have some questions!

fishinpox 02-11-2013 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 547995)
How I see it... If your out at 2-3am nothing good can come from it

If your on someone property breaking into someone private owned thing , you should prepare for the consequences !

Would I shoot at someone in my truck??? Yes all 30 rounds!!


If you take the chance to steal or rob someone you take the chance to pay!!

Its not yours so leave it alone and you will never ever never have to worry about getting shot for stealing !!



(if that is the true story)


So you'd shoot someone outside your house for breaking into your truck??? I hope this never happens so your daughter doesn't have to grow up with her dad in jail!

Dink 02-11-2013 10:20 PM

Pox, thats legal

southern151 02-11-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 548022)
So you'd shoot someone outside your house for breaking into your truck??? I hope this never happens so your daughter doesn't have to grow up with her dad in jail!

Ughh. You took the bait.

simplepeddler 02-11-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 548024)
Pox, thats legal


Really? , not according to the guy I took the CCP from........

"W" 02-11-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 548022)
So you'd shoot someone outside your house for breaking into your truck??? I hope this never happens so your daughter doesn't have to grow up with her dad in jail!

You damn right !!! I hate a freaken theft !!!

southern151 02-11-2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by simplepeddler (Post 548026)
Really? , not according to the guy I took the CCP from........

Correct. If your life or, the life of a fellow human being is not in imminent danger, you should not use deadly force, according to my instructor as well. Invasion of your home is considered imminent danger. Breaking into a truck is not, even though its illegal and, immoral.

Dink 02-11-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 548029)
Correct. If your life or, the life of a fellow human being is not in imminent danger, you should not use deadly force, according to my instructor as well. Invasion of your home is considered imminent danger. Breaking into a truck is not, even though its illegal and, immoral.

Its covered u nder the extention of your home stuff. There was a case in New Orleans havingto do with it

fishinpox 02-11-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 548024)
Pox, thats legal

it is not legal to shoot someone who is breaking into your car!

southern151 02-11-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 548030)
Its covered u nder the extention of your home stuff. There was a case in New Orleans havingto do with it

I'll let em have that half carton of cigarettes and, broken cd player before I take that chance.

budndawn 02-11-2013 10:59 PM

It's only an imminent threat if you or someone your defending are in the vehicle, same goes for your home.

fishinpox 02-11-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 548027)
You damn right !!! I hate a freaken theft !!!

i hate a "theft" as much as the next guy. and i have thought the same as you as well ...but as i get older i realize all material things can be replaced and i dont need to puff my chest out and wave a gun around to be a man, to me being a man is knowing when its best to walk away so you can be there for your family! what good is the " ill show that mf'r "gonna do your wife or daughter when you are locked up and they cannot pay the bills!

fishinpox 02-11-2013 11:03 PM

" oh my bad officer , DINK on salty cajun said i could shoot him for stealing my car radio"

Dink 02-11-2013 11:15 PM

Ill look it up tomorrow, but I think im right

simplepeddler 02-11-2013 11:17 PM

Keeping a gun in your vehicle is an extention of the home......the threat is not.
"W" you are just full of ****.........and talking **** like you always do.
Only a kid would kill over stuff.........most of us are more grown up then that. You are too, you know it. I (and i think like you) would WANT to, but .......

This is a sad, sad time when kids are killing over I-phones and shoes.

now, you screw with my family, extended as well, and it's game on.

bmac 02-11-2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 547995)
How I see it... If your out at 2-3am nothing good can come from it

If your on someone property breaking into someone private owned thing , you should prepare for the consequences !

Would I shoot at someone in my truck??? Yes all 30 rounds!!


If you take the chance to steal or rob someone you take the chance to pay!!

Its not yours so leave it alone and you will never ever never have to worry about getting shot for stealing !!



(if that is the true story)


Have you checked with your insurance company to see if they will cover 5.56 holes in your truck? If not, I am sure they will cover theft.

OhSoEasy 02-11-2013 11:46 PM

None of us were there but I would like to know what happened that night. It may be a lesson for everyone.

fishinpox 02-11-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OhSoEasy (Post 548045)
Give me y'all's address since I know I can rob you without a threat of it being defended.

If my life is in danger ... It will be on. If I catch you trying to break in my truck ... Bring it I have insurance , mean dogs and I'm not afraid to break my hand on someone's jaw but I sure as hell ain't shooting someone over something that can be replaced and go to jail for some stupid TRASH.... And anyways in my experience 99% of the ones who claim to be bad arses , when crap his the fan they do nothing !

BossHog 02-12-2013 12:08 AM

Not sure if LA has this law but a lot of states do that if someone is killed during a crime everybody involved in that crime gets charged with murder. If LA does then every kid in that car should get the same charge as the shooter.

OhSoEasy 02-12-2013 12:11 AM

I've never claimed to be a badass but I took down my last post before I saw your reply. It isn't my nature to make stupid comments like I just did. I understand there's a difference between defending yourself/family and striking out. I hope I never get put in this guys shoes but hope my better judgement would help me to make the right decision.

noodle creek 02-12-2013 02:48 AM

That young and breaking into vehicles for alleged several times, chances are they ain't going anywhere good in life. If it really was the 3rd or 4th time and the police didn't want to attempt to do anything, i don't feel bad. I know my parents road gets broken into a lot, and even when cops are called, nothing is done. Sometimes it takes someone getting shot to stop things. Bottom line, don't break into other peoples vehicles or houses, and you don't have to worry about getting shot.

noodle creek 02-12-2013 03:11 AM

Like previously stated, the whole "i was only trying to steal beer" statement is extremely convienient. Look at statistics, most people that young aren't going to get any better as they grow up. Not to mention, even if they were caught, chances are they would shake it off and not even be punished. Don't break into people's shi*. We're taught that from a young age. Don't act like yall wouldn't be upset if someone broke into your boat and stole a gps, 10 rods and reels, or a pistol out of your truck. Youndon't want to go through the hassle of insurance or trying to press charges. Nothing ever comes of that. If there were more harsh consequences, such as getting shot, the world would be a better place. Face it

FF_T_Warren 02-12-2013 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 548061)
Like previously stated, the whole "i was only trying to steal beer" statement is extremely convienient. Look at statistics, most people that young aren't going to get any better as they grow up. Not to mention, even if they were caught, chances are they would shake it off and not even be punished. Don't break into people's shi*. We're taught that from a young age. Don't act like yall wouldn't be upset if someone broke into your boat and stole a gps, 10 rods and reels, or a pistol out of your truck. Youndon't want to go through the hassle of insurance or trying to press charges. Nothing ever comes of that. If there were more harsh consequences, such as getting shot, the world would be a better place. Face it

I concur. It's a sad situation that somebody died over material things, but if more people died over good principals like "Don't Steal", then the world would be a better place because people wouldn't be resorting to stealing. people nowadays just steal to steal. it aint even like they need to to feed the family. they just doin it cuz its easier than working. And when the courts have basically made no real consequences for it, why wouldnt they continue.

Just about everyone on here posts up about how "they hate a thief" or "let me catch someone breaking into my stuff" every time a theft thread is posted. However now because a 15y/o got killed, you wouldn't shoot unless they're in your house and actually threatened. Fact of the matter is, ever since all these laws were placed, people are now scared to protect their stuff for fear of prosecution. Crooks now have more rights than the people they robbing. As soon as a shooting case opens up with the situation that the victim was breaking into ANYTHING thats not his, the case should immediately be dismissed. bottom line is DONT TOUCH OTHER PEOPLES THINGS!!!

i understand this shooting looks bad because supposedly they were driving away, but as stated before, the story seems shady and probably not accurate at this point.

"W" 02-12-2013 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by simplepeddler (Post 548038)
Keeping a gun in your vehicle is an extention of the home......the threat is not.
"W" you are just full of ****.........and talking **** like you always do.
Only a kid would kill over stuff.........most of us are more grown up then that. You are too, you know it. I (and i think like you) would WANT to, but .......

This is a sad, sad time when kids are killing over I-phones and shoes.

now, you screw with my family, extended as well, and it's game on.

Dude your full of ****..... Come take something on my property and find out what the **** will happen

I have zero tolerance for a theft and I promise if someone was on my property and caught in the act of theft and I take him as a threat


I Would never spend one second in jail... Not one second

inchspinner 02-12-2013 07:49 AM

Better not shoot in the back=fleeing and your gettn att 2nd degree or 2nd degree murder, your gettn 40 if you kill!!! Take conceal course and youll find all these answers! You gotta play by the rules or take a seat in the 6x9.;)

Dogface 02-12-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 548069)
Dude your full of ****..... Come take something on my property and find out what the **** will happen

I have zero tolerance for a theft and I promise if someone was on my property and caught in the act of theft and I take him as a threat


I Would never spend one second in jail... Not one second

Pretty hard to take him as a threat if he is trying to get away in his truck(as the report in this case says). You really don't know what you are talking about. Like Spinna said, take the CC course and know the rules before you play the game.

jdm4x43732 02-12-2013 09:00 AM

No way he shot all them while fleeing in truck. It would take lots of luck (good or bad) to hit 3 moving targets. Driver in ankle, on passenger in head the other in the back the neck.

fishinpox 02-12-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 548069)
Dude your full of ****..... Come take something on my property and find out what the **** will happen

I have zero tolerance for a theft and I promise if someone was on my property and caught in the act of theft and I take him as a threat


I Would never spend one second in jail... Not one second

Well when bubba is balls deep in you and you're heating up coffee under running hot water...... Call me ill put a few bucks on your commissary so you can buy a few moon pies to help fend off bubbas friends!

Goooh 02-12-2013 09:08 AM

The truth hasn't even come out yet and everyone is fighting with each other about who is more badass, who is more mature, or who is more level headed.

No one knows exactly what happened, we'd be just as productive fighting over how to train a unicorn to retrieve birds.

Keywest18 02-12-2013 09:13 AM

What if you're going to see why your light is on in your truck then once you get closer you realize there's a person in your truck with a screw driver and crow bar. I would consider those deadly weapons. Most people who break in vehicles for radios always have a pry bar or screw driver

southern151 02-12-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 548096)
No one knows exactly what happened, we'd be just as productive fighting over how to train a unicorn to retrieve birds.

This!!!^^^

Funny as all heck but, accurate.

I still stand by what I said though...Even though it's illegal, I'm not shooting someone or, even at them over a half carton of cigarettes that's in my truck!

In our CC class, the instructor made a great point. He stated that if you ever do use your weapon, you need to have at least $25k set aside for a defense fund. Even if you are cleared criminally(and don't spend even one second in jail), be prepared to have an attorney present and get ready for a civil suit from the family of the person you shot. $25k is a lot of cigarettes and cd players!:work:

southern151 02-12-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thegr8cody (Post 548102)
What if you're going to see why your light is on in your truck then once you get closer you realize there's a person in your truck with a screw driver and crow bar. I would consider those deadly weapons. Most people who break in vehicles for radios always have a pry bar or screw driver

That's the point when you have to make the call. Are they charging toward you in a threatening manner or one that you feel is a threatening manner? Are they running away from you?...

I hope I never have to find any of this out, honestly.

biggun 02-12-2013 09:57 AM

I feel the same way as spinna.. As a former state game warden, my training of the law is, unless its changed??? IF THEY WERE FLEEING.. Deadly force is not warranted!!!! No threat to bodily harm..

Again the Whole STORY so for is really CLOUDED.. Beer?? I'm not so sure??? Truck break in??? I'm not so sure... It's definitely a HORRIBLE MESS!!!

No parent should have to go thru burying a child...

fishinpox 02-12-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 548096)
The truth hasn't even come out yet and everyone is fighting with each other about who is more badass, who is more mature, or who is more level headed.

No one knows exactly what happened, we'd be just as productive fighting over how to train a unicorn to retrieve birds.

I'm not even talking about the laffy shooting, I'm talking about people on your property and the use of firearms to defend material things in general

SULPHITE 02-12-2013 10:07 AM

I dug a pit around my truck with pungee sticks lining the bottom

FF_T_Warren 02-12-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 548128)
I dug a pit around my truck with pungee sticks lining the bottom

you laugh, I know some fruit loop that did that to his trailer. a real whacko

flounder_smacker 02-12-2013 10:19 AM

Just remember shoot below the waist if they are running away.


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