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T-TOP 06-29-2013 12:02 PM

More than 23' kenners????

"W" 06-29-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 599521)
More than 23' kenners????

Right now yes... not many have Kenners anymore, few HRG and one or two individual guides

I dont know one out of the East side of lake

Salty 06-29-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 599459)
Haynie has a life time warranty on its hull ...and its custom so you put the hatches you want


Why do you think its the #1 guide boat on big lake??? Because its a fishing machine!! Guides change them out because they get great deals on Haynie guide program... its all about the warranty

And they can sale the boat and make money after using it for a year or two and keep same note on a brand new boat with new warranty

Black Jack is a great boat but not fishing friendly deck layout....


Personally, I would never buy a boat that was pre-owned by a guide....especially saltwater.

Salty 06-29-2013 12:27 PM

Prolly ain't a Haynie anywhere east of the Atchafalaya.

Natural Light Kid 06-29-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 599520)
Yes i would say there are more Guides in Haynie boats than any other brand boat

The two biggest are HBG (runs most all Haynie) Big Lake Guide Service ( runs all Haynie & 1 L&B)

Most of the one or two boat services are running Haynies....So yes I i would say More Haynie Guide boats than any other one brand

And if you ever go on the water you would know this



Guess I don't follow the same guide boats you do. I've never noticed. Also, thanks for you personal survey of 2 guide services. W's personal survey proves it that haynies are the best. Everybody to buy one now.

"W" 06-29-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 599515)
Do you have anything to support your statement that its the #1 guide boat on big lake? Do more guides use them than any other boat? Do the guides that use them rate them higher than other boats? Did you completely pull this out of your azz?

But just to prove im right

List any brand of boat with the guide .. take the brand with the most guides and i will cover it with a Haynie /guide

ckinchen 06-29-2013 12:59 PM

Actually by this time next summer nautic star will be the most common guide boat on big lake. I am personally not a huge fan but with the guide program they have that is the direction this is going.

Chris has gone way up on pricing even to guides and is 16 weeks out on boats.

The last six boats purchased by rod and gun guys were all nautic star.

Bluechip 06-29-2013 01:01 PM

Hummmm...... "W" didn't get the memo.

Montauk17 06-29-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 599463)
About the wood thing there are 40-year-old Boston Whalers still out there fishing. As long as the fiberglass work is done well you have nothing to worry about with wood in boats

Including mine.....it is a 1970 and is solid as a rock. It's all about how you take care of it. My podnas dad has a older kenner that they did not take care of. The decks and floor rotted out.

all star rod 06-29-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 599550)
Hummmm...... "W" didn't get the memo.

:rotfl: :work:

southern151 06-29-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 599550)
Hummmm...... "W" didn't get the memo.

Chicken just has to be wrong! I mean, EVERYTHING w says is fact!

Salty 06-29-2013 01:13 PM

W's fixin' to buy a Nautic Star and, then, it will become the #1 bay boat.

Montauk17 06-29-2013 01:17 PM

Nautic star makes a sweet boat and very reasonable on the price. Longcast's 18 footer is by far the smoothest and driest 18 foot bay boat I ever rode in.

Natural Light Kid 06-29-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 599547)
But just to prove im right

List any brand of boat with the guide .. take the brand with the most guides and i will cover it with a Haynie /guide

And because kevin van damn has a nitro and fishes quantum that makes them the best too. Come on man! I think what you meant to say was that you have a haynie and you really like it. That's your personal preference. Thanks for making me still to your level again, no pun intended.

BayBolt23 06-29-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 599533)
Prolly ain't a Haynie anywhere east of the Atchafalaya.

I think there's one or two around the Cocodrie area. Haven't seen them for myself just heard.

PUREBAY2200 06-29-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 599555)
W's fixin' to buy a Nautic Star and, then, it will become the #1 bay boat.

Just like he bashed ford trucks and said GM was the greatest..... He buys a ford truck and well u know the rest ....

Ford is the only truck a real American man should own..... Bc W said so.

BloodKnot 06-29-2013 02:00 PM

I read that most people say Haynie is a "guide boat". So if you are looking for a fishing boat then go with Haynie. Guys that are on the water know what they are doing.

"W" 06-29-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 599563)
And because kevin van damn has a nitro and fishes quantum that makes them the best too. Come on man! I think what you meant to say was that you have a haynie and you really like it. That's your personal preference. Thanks for making me still to your level again, no pun intended.


You said it was not the #1 guide boat on Big Lake...I proved you wrong

YOU MAD....:rotfl::rotfl:

"W" 06-29-2013 02:21 PM

I can set the Hook on my ducks everytime!!! LMAO

When you get Edwards,Southren(suckie suckie) and Salty in one thread!!

WINNING

southern151 06-29-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 599582)
I can set the Hook on my ducks everytime!!! LMAO

When you get Edwards,Southren(suckie suckie) and Salty in one thread!!

WINNING

You're too cool!...

Sounds like the majority feel the BlackJack is more family oriented than a haynie. Hopefully somewhere in all this "winning" the op found some info worthwhile.

"W" 06-29-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 599585)
You're too cool!...

Sounds like the majority feel the BlackJack is more family oriented than a haynie. Hopefully somewhere in all this "winning" the op found some info worthwhile.


BlackJack is more Family Oriented..DUHHHHH Haynie is a fishing beast!!

I dont ride around looking at Seagulls or land masses

I fish!!!


btw..I love how you Salty and Edwards all jump in boat threads when NONE of you own a BOAT or have OWNED a boat in this topic :rotfl::rotfl:

southern151 06-29-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 599587)
BlackJack is more Family Oriented..DUHHHHH Haynie is a fishing beast!!

I dont ride around looking at Seagulls or land masses

I fish!!!


btw..I love how you Salty and Edwards all jump in boat threads with NONE of you own a BOAT or have OWNED a boat in this topic :rotfl::rotfl:

I didn't offer any opinions, just laughed at what someone else had pointed out...again, your "winning" is cool!

Read the op and, see what he was asking about. Duh.

jldsc 06-29-2013 03:02 PM

I think that if you personally dont have experience with either of the boats the op asked about then maybe some of you guys shouldn't comment..

From being around both of them and owning an haynie right now an having kids, I believe the Blackjack would be a little more family oriented than an HO...
I do take my boys out in my boat you just have to be careful with the sides being as short as they are...I personally dont think one is better than the other you just need to decide what exactly you will be doing with it.



Sent From an Apple Tree.

Salty 06-29-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 599565)
Just like he bashed ford trucks and said GM was the greatest..... He buys a ford truck and well u know the rest ....

Ford is the only truck a real American man should own..... Bc W said so.


Remember when Seafox was the best? And All Star? And Curado?

Hey Ted 06-29-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 599600)
Remember when Seafox was the best? And All Star? And Curado?

That was before he got on with NASA. Now Warren Buffet calls him for stock advice.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

flounder_smacker 06-29-2013 04:02 PM

sorry you asked this question. people here will tell you not to buy a haynie just because w owns one. these same people have never set foot in either hull. haynie is a good fishing boat but you wont be impressed with the fit and finish of the cap for the money. blackjack is a fine ride that is a little more big water capable. as far as being more family oriented all kids should have life jackets on at all times in either one and the sides in the haynie are lower but there not low enough to where your kids will be flying out. if i were you id go ride/test out both hulls and decide which one YOU like. cant go wrong with either one imo.

"W" 06-29-2013 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 599616)
sorry you asked this question. people here will tell you not to buy a haynie just because w owns one. these same people have never set foot in either hull. haynie is a good fishing boat but you wont be impressed with the fit and finish of the cap for the money. blackjack is a fine ride that is a little more big water capable. as far as being more family oriented all kids should have life jackets on at all times in either one and the sides in the haynie are lower but there not low enough to where your kids will be flying out. if i were you id go ride/test out both hulls and decide which one YOU like. cant go wrong with either one imo.

Yep and its the same Fan Club

Edwards (as called in gill net puregay;))
Southern101(aka suckie suckie)
Salty(aka last know boat ride was in the MayFlower)
NLK( new club member)
Rene (aka ASR tDUCK)


Did I miss anyone???

Bdub 06-29-2013 04:41 PM

Its possible a haynie could be the #1 guide boat on the lake, **** I seen 3 of them today one in west cove 2 in prien. I was told by a capt last year about this time that Grosse Savanne had a big order in to replace all their boats but not sure if that went through or what. The haynie is a beast in a chop ive seen it first hand. But you gotta really compare the two. Just because its a custom boat doesn't make it better. When you walk across a flush mount hatch lid and hear it crack then there is a problem with quality control. When you have a boat that is much more mass produced there is more quality control as every boat goes through the same ringer. The cap and rear deck on a haynie look cheap to me. Cheap nonskid, webbing, very basic rolled edge compared to a molded in texture cap on the blackjack. Why would they mention no exposed wood if they just said no rot board? Are they using Nida core?What kind of resin are they using? Now having a lifetime warranty is pretty nice, but has anyone dealt with warranty issues and how is the service with that? As for the guide program...of course guides would go with the best deal if the boat is capable of bringing a crew and slingin trout.

I have not been in a blackjack, but for a little extra would prefer the boat that is better fit and finish and offers more options for the passengers on board. I cant afford either one so I'd take one of each if they were giving them away. Rule #1 when buying a boat...wet test, wet test, wet test. And then wet test some more.

"W" 06-29-2013 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bdub (Post 599629)
Its possible a haynie could be the #1 guide boat on the lake, **** I seen 3 of them today one in west cove 2 in prien. I was told by a capt last year about this time that Grosse Savanne had a big order in to replace all their boats but not sure if that went through or what. The haynie is a beast in a chop ive seen it first hand. But you gotta really compare the two. Just because its a custom boat doesn't make it better. When you walk across a flush mount hatch lid and hear it crack then there is a problem with quality control. When you have a boat that is much more mass produced there is more quality control as every boat goes through the same ringer. The cap and rear deck on a haynie look cheap to me. Cheap nonskid, webbing, very basic rolled edge compared to a molded in texture cap on the blackjack. Why would they mention no exposed wood if they just said no rot board? Are they using Nida core?What kind of resin are they using? Now having a lifetime warranty is pretty nice, but has anyone dealt with warranty issues and how is the service with that? As for the guide program...of course guides would go with the best deal if the boat is capable of bringing a crew and slingin trout.

I have not been in a blackjack, but for a little extra would prefer the boat that is better fit and finish and offers more options for the passengers on board. I cant afford either one so I'd take one of each if they were giving them away. Rule #1 when buying a boat...wet test, wet test, wet test. And then wet test some more.

Evis cracked his hull in an accident and it was replaced

Grosse Savanne has 3 or 4 Haynies
As far as flush mount hatch lid,,, you can pick the cheep ones or the ones that are heavy duty.... I have never changed a lid on my boat or had one crack. My lids are solid and well made but I paid for them when built the boat.....

You can stand 600bls on my lids and you will not hear them crack ….but lot of guys choose the cheaper ones to cut cost ….

Bdub 06-29-2013 05:06 PM

I'm not talking about the ones you cut a hole and replace with frame, those are great. Found this pic with a quick search...these are the ones im referring to. Either way if it has a lifetime warranty (which I didn't know) then I'd just call and have a new hatch lid sent to me.
http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/at...1&d=1368257603

"W" 06-29-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bdub (Post 599639)
I'm not talking about the ones you cut a hole and replace with frame, those are great. Found this pic with a quick search...these are the ones im referring to. Either way if it has a lifetime warranty (which I didn't know) then I'd just call and have a new hatch lid sent to me.
http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/at...1&d=1368257603

I have never seen or even heard of a problem with those holes....

Dogface 06-29-2013 05:31 PM

W, which model do you have?

Bdub 06-29-2013 05:32 PM

Its not the holes im speaking of, the way the hatches were not mounted properly...makes me second guess craftsmanship.

all star rod 06-29-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 599625)
Yep and its the same Fan Club

Edwards (as called in gill net puregay;))
Southern101(aka suckie suckie)
Salty(aka last know boat ride was in the MayFlower)
NLK( new club member)
Rene (aka ASR tDUCK)


Did I miss anyone???

First off BRUH, I did not say crap about either boat..i made a comment in regards to a post by bluechip....get over it...this not the sports bar so keep your crap there and not in the open forums...I could care less if hineys are the #1 selling boat in the US...

"W" 06-29-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogface (Post 599643)
W, which model do you have?


I have the Z21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bdub (Post 599644)
Its not the holes im speaking of, the way the hatches were not mounted properly...makes me second guess craftsmanship.

I still dont understand what you are talking about when you say not mounted properly??

specknation 06-29-2013 06:36 PM

My buddy just texted me said he has read all post and said who is that W dude does he work for Haynie LOL

Goooh 06-29-2013 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 599625)
Yep and its the same Fan Club

Edwards (as called in gill net puregay;))
Southern101(aka suckie suckie)
Salty(aka last know boat ride was in the MayFlower)
NLK( new club member)
Rene (aka ASR tDUCK)


Did I miss anyone???

:rotfl:

all star rod 06-29-2013 06:56 PM

And let's see.....BRUH's....aka "W".... PRO Hiney Club = they are hoping and praying for a FISHING TRIP with MR HINEY himself.......

1. Flounderpacker
1A. GOOOH

Did I miss anyone?????

:rotfl::rotfl:

Salty 06-29-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by specknation (Post 599667)
My buddy just texted me said he has read all post and said who is that W dude does he work for Haynie LOL


Why doesn't your "buddy" become a member so he can converse on his own? Would his name happen to be "Dean"?

Salty 06-29-2013 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 599625)
Yep and its the same Fan Club

Edwards (as called in gill net puregay;))
Southern101(aka suckie suckie)
Salty(aka last know boat ride was in the MayFlower)
NLK( new club member)
Rene (aka ASR tDUCK)


Did I miss anyone???


I've ridden in both boats. Now what?

mcjaredsandwich 06-29-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 599676)
I've ridden in both boats. Now what?

Congratulations!
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ckinchen 06-29-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 599675)
Why doesn't your "buddy" become a member so he can converse on his own? Would his name happen to be "Dean"?

Because this is a classic troll thread. The op starts threads like this every few months to sit back and watch it implode. Some choose to feed the trolls.

ckinchen 06-29-2013 07:17 PM

There is no guy he knows looking to make this choice and if there were they can use the search feature to view the 798 threads we have comparing these two boats. Of cousrse several ended up in the gill net.

ckinchen 06-29-2013 07:17 PM

Have fun guys

Salty 06-29-2013 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 599679)
Because this is a classic troll thread. The op starts threads like this every few months to sit back and watch it implode. Some choose to feed the trolls.


That's why I asked. :rolleyes:

specknation 06-29-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 599680)
There is no guy he knows looking to make this choice and if there were they can use the search feature to view the 798 threads we have comparing these two boats. Of cousrse several ended up in the gill net.

Wow calling me a liar for starting this thread, I am speechless isn't this a fishing boating site whatever.

specknation 06-29-2013 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 599688)
That's why I asked. :rolleyes:

Look back I do not start threads, matter of fact this is the first thread I have ever started LOL

flounder_smacker 06-29-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 599657)
First off BRUH, I did not say crap about either boat..i made a comment in regards to a post by bluechip....get over it...this not the sports bar so keep your crap there and not in the open forums...I could care less if hineys are the #1 selling boat in the US...

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 599674)
And let's see.....BRUH's....aka "W".... PRO Hiney Club = they are hoping and praying for a FISHING TRIP with MR HINEY himself.......

1. Flounderpacker
1A. GOOOH

Did I miss anyone?????

:rotfl::rotfl:

telling people keep it premium. does exactly the opposite 3 post later.
i guess you are a general discussion guy these days since you got butt raped in the sports bar. lol lmao lm fao lm faoX100000

"W" 06-29-2013 08:54 PM

I dont care if its a troll thread or not

I love pulling my ducks out of the tall grass every now and then

1) Southern1o1 ( aka mr paint n body guy who joins in every haynie thread but never stepped foot in one)
2) puregay ( aka mr boat expert of every make and model due to looking at them from the parking lots)
3) Salty ( old as the 1st boat ever made)
4) Rene "ASR" ( aka famous for lol,lmao,lol,lmao at the end of every statement) )
5) NLK (newest member who has no clue what fiberglass is)

all star rod 06-29-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 599721)
telling people keep it premium. does exactly the opposite 3 post later.
i guess you are a general discussion guy these days since you got butt raped in the sports bar. lol lmao lm fao lm faoX100000


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