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keakar 08-19-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pricecb (Post 715080)
I think the local and state police need to just pull out 100% let them do what they want.

Let everyone know they will be leaving and they are on there own. Have an armed convoy go through and pick up any refugees and relocate them.
If they want to destroy the area they live let them. NEVER NEVER rebuild or police the area again. make it a 0 tax rate with 0 tax dollars going in or out.
NO CHECKS, NO SNAP, NO SSI, NO DISABILITY.

the only problem is that only 20-25% are local hoodlums and the other 75% are bussed it out of town professional protesters that live off of government checks because they supposedly cant work because of depression or some other lame BS but they spend weeks marching and sleeping in tents all over the country. these are the same stupid college uneducated liberal socialist America hating occupy idiots and they keep living off of mom and dad while they practice domestic terrorism without even knowing what the facts involved are for the excuse they use to be thugs and be lawless.

what they should do is arrest anyone without proof of rlocal esidency and if they don't live in the state then file charges of crossing state lines with the intent to incitement to riot and domestic terrorism

pricecb 08-19-2014 06:23 PM

I watched a little bit on tv last night I refuse to look at to much they really shouldn't be showing or glorifying these people like they are now.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. People throwing stuff at cops, pulling up signs and trying to build a blockade across the roads. Taunting the police. I wouldn't have made it as a cop for long. .

duckman1911 08-19-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 715100)
Not sure how true it is but just ready that KKK members from 3 states are heading to Ferguson. Something about protecting businesses. If its true and they run in to the panthers. Oh man look out!

I bet they will be arrested on sight. The black panthers will be allowed to prance around like a bunch of faries though. F the panthers is what I say. Stick a glock in their mouth and they wont be quite as ballzy. Somebody in Ferguson needs to draw a line in the sand and drop the hammer on the first animal that crosses it. I could clear the streets with one rifle round.

duckman1911 08-19-2014 08:39 PM

If the reports I have have read. IF. I do believe the officer was right to use deadly force. As a citizen I would have down the same thing. At the same time I do believe there is a real issue with law enforcement and the use of force in this country.
We are at a time when even a verbal disagreement with a cop is viewed as commbative behavior by law enforcement. They are quick to use those tasers. Tasers and pepper spray ruined law enforcement imo

Ilovestohunt 08-19-2014 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 714935)
Black on Black crimes don't fit their agenda.....pathetic!!!


Or make them money!! This country may never get over the damage done the past 20+ years with this crap!


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Ilovestohunt 08-19-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 715123)
I bet they will be arrested on sight. The black panthers will be allowed to prance around like a bunch of faries though. F the panthers is what I say. Stick a glock in their mouth and they wont be quite as ballzy. Somebody in Ferguson needs to draw a line in the sand and drop the hammer on the first animal that crosses it. I could clear the streets with one rifle round.


AMEN!!!


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pricecb 08-19-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 715150)
If the reports I have have read. IF. I do believe the officer was right to use deadly force. As a citizen I would have down the same thing. At the same time I do believe there is a real issue with law enforcement and the use of force in this country.
We are at a time when even a verbal disagreement with a cop is viewed as commbative behavior by law enforcement. They are quick to use those tasers. Tasers and pepper spray ruined law enforcement imo

I agree. It seems that he did what was necessary. But there is defiantly a attitude with our police force. It was once the few that were bad eggs. Now even question one and they pull that " you got a problem boy" attitude. Im not as combative as I once was but I'm still to stubborn to just surrender my rights. Never never never give a statement to a cop without an attorney present. They are trained to write reports you aren't trained to give one.

Don't remember who said this but it is so true.
In communist Russia people would fear the knock at the door in the middle of the night. In free America today we fear the local swat team busting the door down with guns pointed to your face.

noodle creek 08-19-2014 09:17 PM

Why on earth isn't every business owner in this town sitting in the business just waiting for this to happen. Kill a pile of those punks and it'll all stop.

marshrunner757 08-19-2014 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 715100)
Not sure how true it is but just ready that KKK members from 3 states are heading to Ferguson. Something about protecting businesses. If its true and they run in to the panthers. Oh man look out!

I researched this. The Klan organization says the guy over one of the self proclaimed groups is not a registered member of the Klan. He's saying its someone looking to make money.

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fishinpox 08-19-2014 09:50 PM

Uneducated , no role models , society where being a "thug" or "gangster" is cool . I question myself " how would I look at this if the cop was black or m brown was white or the cop white and the kid white" either was rioting, looting in your community solves nothing , I would also hope that I'm educated enough to have the same feeling regardless of color . The problem isn't furgeson mizzou it's What has become accatable all over America . It ok to teach your kids how to work the system so they don't actually have to work , it's ok to have role models who are criminal rappers , it's cool to wear shirts that say " stop snitching " it's cool to play the knock out game, until one of these role models steps up and says all this is bull crap! And shows the uneducated that stuff is trash! And it's actually cool to support your family by working, and role model should be god , working to help others is cool . Until there is major change in thinking nothing will change

duckman1911 08-19-2014 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 715189)
Uneducated , no role models , society where being a "thug" or "gangster" is cool . I question myself " how would I look at this if the cop was black or m brown was white or the cop white and the kid white" either was rioting, looting in your community solves nothing , I would also hope that I'm educated enough to have the same feeling regardless of color . The problem isn't furgeson mizzou it's What has become accatable all over America . It ok to teach your kids how to work the system so they don't actually have to work , it's ok to have role models who are criminal rappers , it's cool to wear shirts that say " stop snitching " it's cool to play the knock out game, until one of these role models steps up and says all this is bull crap! And shows the uneducated that stuff is trash! And it's actually cool to support your family by working, and role model should be god , working to help others is cool . Until there is major change in thinking nothing will change

We actually agree for once.lol
Very well spoken pox. King's to you.
It boggles my mind that no black celebrity (that I know of) has publicly condemd their behavior in Ferguson.
You can bet your azz that there will be a multitude of rap songs to honor mike brown though.
Even if he turns out to be a thug like Trayvon was he will still be an idol.

fishinpox 08-20-2014 06:37 AM

Any celebrity black or white . Celebrity = media wh ore = uneducated peoples role model . If someone famous starts complaining about something on tv or in the media the Un educated masses believe its true and they follow like drones !

mr crab 08-20-2014 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 715150)
If the reports I have have read. IF. I do believe the officer was right to use deadly force. As a citizen I would have down the same thing. At the same time I do believe there is a real issue with law enforcement and the use of force in this country.
We are at a time when even a verbal disagreement with a cop is viewed as commbative behavior by law enforcement. They are quick to use those tasers. Tasers and pepper spray ruined law enforcement imo

Why do you think the officer was right in using deadly force? I still haven't heard details of the confrontation? Not disagreeing with you, just wondering if you have heard something I haven't

Goooh 08-20-2014 07:01 AM

I personally don't see much difference in this and what our forefathers did when they started this country.

People are acting out against what they perceive as an injustice. When police brutality is such a common thing, how is anyone supposed to wait for the facts at this point? Renegade cops have created a situation where this guy being in the right won't mean a damn thing

mr crab 08-20-2014 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 715189)
Uneducated , no role models , society where being a "thug" or "gangster" is cool . I question myself " how would I look at this if the cop was black or m brown was white or the cop white and the kid white" either was rioting, looting in your community solves nothing , I would also hope that I'm educated enough to have the same feeling regardless of color . The problem isn't furgeson mizzou it's What has become accatable all over America . It ok to teach your kids how to work the system so they don't actually have to work , it's ok to have role models who are criminal rappers , it's cool to wear shirts that say " stop snitching " it's cool to play the knock out game, until one of these role models steps up and says all this is bull crap! And shows the uneducated that stuff is trash! And it's actually cool to support your family by working, and role model should be god , working to help others is cool . Until there is major change in thinking nothing will change

It also helps to see mom and or dad waking up every morning and going to work. If you see mom and or dad wake up every morning and chill on the sofa and watch tv or worse, that's what you think is normal and acceptable behavior for adult Americans. The comfort provided by the current level of welfare is too high. There is no incentive to get a minimum wage job because the lifestyle provided by welfare income is about very comparable.

swamp snorkler 08-20-2014 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 715243)
It also helps to see mom and or dad waking up every morning and going to work. If you see mom and or dad wake up every morning and chill on the sofa and watch tv or worse, that's what you think is normal and acceptable behavior for adult Americans. The comfort provided by the current level of welfare is too high. There is no incentive to get a minimum wage job because the lifestyle provided by welfare income is about very comparable.


BOOM

Every hard workin person I know has parents that worked hard.

pricecb 08-20-2014 07:18 AM

Every time a black leader says "stop! Go get a job, take care of your children, don't blame everyone else" they are blasted as being an Uncle Tom or not really black. By there own leaders like Jackson and sharpton.
Bill Cosby is laughed at and called a crazy old man.

These people are told from the time they are born they can't make it, that they are victims and all the white folks are against them. People (of all races) will take the easy way out. It is much easier to blame everyone else rather than look at the mistakes that you have made or work hard and earn it.
Until there is real leadership the problem will not get fixed.

There is a movement in the youth of this country that they can't be successful. Even there teachers are telling them this. Make sure you encourage your children and young adults let them know there are already a success, they will make mistakes and from time to time and lose. Yes the cards aren't always in your favor but that's just life.
What really is important is they get back up and push forward especially when it's hard. That's what makes them a success.

tboy 08-20-2014 07:47 AM

Love or hate Bill O'Reilly, I think he nailed it here. Pretty much goes hand in hand with Pox and Duckman......

http://www.cnsnews.com/video/nationa...s-race-problem

duckman1911 08-20-2014 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 715189)
Uneducated , no role models , society where being a "thug" or "gangster" is cool . I question myself " how would I look at this if the cop was black or m brown was white or the cop white and the kid white" either was rioting, looting in your community solves nothing , I would also hope that I'm educated enough to have the same feeling regardless of color . The problem isn't furgeson mizzou it's What has become accatable all over America . It ok to teach your kids how to work the system so they don't actually have to work , it's ok to have role models who are criminal rappers , it's cool to wear shirts that say " stop snitching " it's cool to play the knock out game, until one of these role models steps up and says all this is bull crap! And shows the uneducated that stuff is trash! And it's actually cool to support your family by working, and role model should be god , working to help others is cool . Until there is major change in thinking nothing will change

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 715237)
Why do you think the officer was right in using deadly force? I still haven't heard details of the confrontation? Not disagreeing with you, just wondering if you have heard something I haven't

I read a report that said the officer had a broken eye socket from being hit by the guy and the guy was coming for more. IF that is true the officer did what he needed to do. IF

SaltERedneck 08-20-2014 08:29 AM

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fishfighter 08-20-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltERedneck (Post 715260)
Caption this!!!! Lmao

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yeah boyeee that pepper spray is ruff hahahaha

pricecb 08-20-2014 08:47 AM

Do you think he went back the next day?

Dogface 08-20-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tboy (Post 715255)
Love or hate Bill O'Reilly, I think he nailed it here. Pretty much goes hand in hand with Pox and Duckman......

http://www.cnsnews.com/video/nationa...s-race-problem

I think one of the biggest problems is the government paying these girls to have babies out of wedlock. They get around $1,500 per month per child. Lots of them have 4-6 by the time they are 25-30 yrs old. You do the math! If they get married most of the funds are cut off. That's why 75-80% of African Am are born with no father figure. No father figure = thugs (most of the time, there are exceptions). The family unit has been destroyed to get votes for the dems. Just my opinion.

duckman1911 08-20-2014 11:33 AM

One neatly placed cardboard box. Three pounds of tannerite. Eight pounds of various nuts, bolts, and ball bearings. I well placed rifle bullet. Riot over immedietly.

AceArcher 08-20-2014 12:34 PM

Perhaps i am looking at this differently than most of you...

But it seems to me that we are all being led down a path to make this about race, and how different races have different values.

When in point of fact we really should be looking at this and saying, "Are we okay that it's becoming the "norm" for deadly force to be used"

I think the retired Lt. Colonel Michael Bell may have the best solution, he spearheaded a campaign to mandate INDEPENDENT oversight of police departments, he did this when his white son was shot dead by a police officer, in a case of probable police misconduct.

His point of contention was that, police dept's throughout the US operate with only internal oversight of officer conduct. He pushed to create independent oversight of all police involved shootings.

I am not thoroughly read up on him, and am not sure of his standing in regards to other issues,...... But on this issue, he is making sense to me.

Please read up on him here, http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...l#.U_TWvPldXmc
and here. http://michaelbell.info/ChangeTheProcess.html

If someone here knows more info about him and what he is pushing for please do share.

Sadly though, the overwhelming majority of American's... (of all colors) continue to participate in the media circle-jerk of.............

(pick your flavor)

1) (Vanilla flavor) Dem crazy blackies are all worthless thug muffins that only know how to cash welfare checks and put low pro tires on their cars.

2) (Chocolate flavor) Hide yo kids, Hide you Wifes, Dem crazy cracker white folk be killen n raping errybody up in heah!!!!

Clampy 08-20-2014 12:56 PM

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/cop...ium=socialflow

Finfeatherfur 08-20-2014 01:48 PM

I have been sitting back and taking it all in - since not all the facts are out. One thing that has set me off is the public officials and governmental leaders that are using this incident to get some time on the boob tube. It is absolutely ludicrious what the governor said about "prosecuting" the officer, it is eaqually apalling for Holder to go show his face over there - when they have double digit homicides in Chicago on a weekly basis which are for the most part black on black crimes.

All indications by people with a brain read it as a 6'4, 300lb thug high on marijuana which was probably "wet" (won't show on testing) was confronted by a white police officer and engaged. The officer was attempting to retreat to his unit (multiple witnesses) when the thug went in after him and officer was already injured. He wanted his gun, so he got it!!!

I am appalled as to what the political leaders are saying and how they are conducting themselves. I am also fed up with the news media cooking the stories to make in more "meaty" for ratings.

I will leave you guys with a few closing statements:
1)- If I am holding my AR rifle and I'm ordered to clear the streets of people rioting and causing mayhem, I will do that. I the course of those actions you threaten me I will issue you a warning that may sound like the guy in the video "I will kill you" if needed!!!!
2)-Of the poeple looting, rioting, and shooting up the night - how many actually live there where it happened???
3)- Over a month ago, I had to assist one of my coworkers who was shot in the neck in an ambush attack. He will never be the same - currently still in a rehab hospital after 24 years of service to his community. *the thug that shot him had no job, was not paying child support for his kids, and was living off his girlfirends welfare money. Where is the outrage?
4)- On that same day, an officer in Vermillion Parish was shot and killed by 2 thugs. Where is the riots and outrage - where is Holder? Why doesn't he come apologize to these two families?

Finfeatherfur 08-20-2014 01:53 PM

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mr crab 08-20-2014 02:12 PM

Dang...FFF....Thats terrible about your buddy, and the officer in Verm. Parish. Sorry to hear about that.

duckman1911 08-20-2014 02:13 PM

There is a lot to be said for both sides of the issue. I do and have always believed the use of deadly force is sometimes needed. I also believe that the use of force by law enforcement is getting out of hand. It seems they are way to fast to knock down your door and come in ready for a fight in the middle of the night. If they happen to have the wrong adress (happens a lot) you get an apology from the department (if you didn't get shot while trying to defend yourself in the middle of the night from an attack) and you will most likely have to sue the department to be reimbursed for the damage to your home.
I don't think any officer should be harmed while doing his/her job justly but if not you should have equal right to defend yourself against them.

marshrunner757 08-20-2014 02:16 PM

All I can say is I hope there is overwhelming evidence that the officer done only what was necessary. The media and the black community is out for blood. As far as the officer in the video is concerned? What do they expect him to say? "Please don't or I'll have to leave?" These thugs are repeatedly making threats, vandalizing, looting and were supposed to lay down? You fight force with force. These animals claim they want justice? Go home and let the system do its job! They just want an excuse to destroy a city and be thugs. Carpet bomb their azz and be done!

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Clampy 08-20-2014 02:17 PM

Yeah like the dude the stomped and arrested and had the wrong guy the charged him with destruction of police property for bleeding on their uniforms.

PReaux 08-20-2014 02:25 PM

Reminds me of our public schools . . this stuff happens everyday . .

Top Dawg 08-20-2014 02:29 PM

How long should one let a 6'6" 320lb grown man beat on them before they use deadly force??

mr crab 08-20-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 715325)
How long should one let a 6'6" 320lb grown man beat on them before they use deadly force??

Not very..I would say a man of that size is using deadly force when he swings his fists at you....One properly placed blow and its game over

Top Dawg 08-20-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 715326)
Not very..I would say a man of that size is using deadly force when he swings his fists at you....One properly placed blow and its game over

Exactly. And who's to say he won't take your weapon and use it on you if opportunity presents itself.

AceArcher 08-20-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 715328)
Exactly. And who's to say he won't take your weapon and use it on you if opportunity presents itself.

So are you saying that if you have a son who is a big man, you have no issue if he is shot and killed because a police officer feels that he is "threatening" him? (Yes i am well aware that there was more to the situation than this)

Keep in mind that said police officers actions are only reviewed by other police officers who work in the same system that he does. There is no independent review of his actions.

I understand that it's very easy to second guess a police officer while he is out doing his duty, at the same time i do believe that deadly force is a necessary option for the police officer to draw on to do his duty.

And that is exactly why reviews of all shootings should be conducted by completely independent entities. Who should have the power to hold the officer severely accountable for improper conduct.

Overwhelmingly most police officers are good folks doing good work trying to uphold the law, but like with everything there are bad and very rotten apples in the mix. Independent review with strong disciplinary action for misconduct may cause those bad apples to think twice.

lil bubba 08-20-2014 04:51 PM

Just think , whats gunna happen when there aren't enough people working to pay into the system to take care of the deadbeats sucking the system dry. The day is coming and it probly be our children and grandchildren who will have to deal with it. It can't keep going like it is. Sooner than later the money's going to run out. You quit feeding a dog do you think he's still gunna be your friend or turn into a coyote ? There once was a man that found a snake dieing in the cold. He took the snake in and fed him and kept him warm. When the snake was able to fend for itself the man picked it up to bring it out to take care of itself and the snake bit him. He told the snake I took care of you and fed you and you turn and bite me ? The snake told him , you knew i was a snake when you took me in.............

Dogface 08-20-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lil bubba (Post 715341)
Just think , whats gunna happen when there aren't enough people working to pay into the system to take care of the deadbeats sucking the system dry. The day is coming and it probly be our children and grandchildren who will have to deal with it. It can't keep going like it is. Sooner than later the money's going to run out. You quit feeding a dog do you think he's still gunna be your friend or turn into a coyote ? There once was a man that found a snake dieing in the cold. He took the snake in and fed him and kept him warm. When the snake was able to fend for itself the man picked it up to bring it out to take care of itself and the snake bit him. He told the snake I took care of you and fed you and you turn and bite me ? The snake told him , you knew i was a snake when you took me in.............

That's when they will come after our stuff cause you know they aren't going to work.

Clampy 08-20-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lil bubba (Post 715341)
Just think , whats gunna happen when there aren't enough people working to pay into the system to take care of the deadbeats sucking the system dry. The day is coming and it probly be our children and grandchildren who will have to deal with it. It can't keep going like it is. Sooner than later the money's going to run out. You quit feeding a dog do you think he's still gunna be your friend or turn into a coyote ? There once was a man that found a snake dieing in the cold. He took the snake in and fed him and kept him warm. When the snake was able to fend for itself the man picked it up to bring it out to take care of itself and the snake bit him. He told the snake I took care of you and fed you and you turn and bite me ? The snake told him , you knew i was a snake when you took me in.............

Are we ignoring the fact that a snake is talking ?
That guys on acid.

eman 08-20-2014 04:59 PM

I think that If anyone has a reason they should be allowed to peaceably protest and march. I also think that ANY looter should be shot on site.

Clampy 08-20-2014 05:44 PM

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fishfighter 08-20-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 715343)
Are we ignoring the fact that a snake is talking ?
That guys on acid.


I was wondering what kind of snake this was, but acid is a better explanation

fishfighter 08-20-2014 05:50 PM

Clampy, what kind of phone do you have? That bad boy has a thermostat!!?? Or is that location services??

Dogface 08-20-2014 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 715349)

So Clampy, are you siding with the thugs?

duckman1911 08-20-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 715343)
Are we ignoring the fact that a snake is talking ?
That guys on acid.

Maybe it's just weed. It would be ok then. Right?

Clampy 08-20-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 715351)
Clampy, what kind of phone do you have? That bad boy has a thermostat!!?? Or is that location services??

Galaxy S 5

Clampy 08-20-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogface (Post 715352)
So Clampy, are you siding with the thugs?

I take no sides. I just point out that there is 2 of them.

duckman1911 08-20-2014 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AceArcher (Post 715330)
So are you saying that if you have a son who is a big man, you have no issue if he is shot and killed because a police officer feels that he is "threatening" him? (Yes i am well aware that there was more to the situation than this)

Keep in mind that said police officers actions are only reviewed by other police officers who work in the same system that he does. There is no independent review of his actions.

I understand that it's very easy to second guess a police officer while he is out doing his duty, at the same time i do believe that deadly force is a necessary option for the police officer to draw on to do his duty.

And that is exactly why reviews of all shootings should be conducted by completely independent entities. Who should have the power to hold the officer severely accountable for improper conduct.

Overwhelmingly most police officers are good folks doing good work trying to uphold the law, but like with everything there are bad and very rotten apples in the mix. Independent review with strong disciplinary action for misconduct may cause those bad apples to think twice.

I most certainly agree. The system that is in place now is faulty at best. They (justice sytem and LE) are very weak when it comes to punishing one of their own. I do however in this case believe the officers actions were justified. I say that based only on what I have read. It may not be the case once all evidence has come out.
In this case it is a national story so the federal justice system will be gearing up for press comferences. Once again unlawfully intervening in a state issue.

eman 08-20-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 715356)
Maybe it's just weed. It would be ok then. Right?

Smoked a lot of weed back in the day and never heard any animals talk.


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