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"W" 02-24-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 118274)
brings back memories of W's old threads on the sportsman, his solution was just to get all the idiots who can't fish off the water. :rotfl:

those made tony so proud

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yak'em-n-stack'em 02-24-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 118042)
I'm thinking for my generation bud, look at your fishing rulebook/phamplet. Now, you see all these rules and regs, yall keep wanting to add more rules, pretty soon, my "generation" isn't even going to be able to keep a darn fish!

Like i said,"don't fix it if it aint broken"



FOOL, you are what is wrong with this "generation" Get your head out of your A@$ and start thinking about the future. You know nothing about what goes into limits or regulations, I use to respect you, but you have quickly overstepped your shoe size and gotten into a way of thinking that puts you way down on the list of people on this site.

When you get home from school, look up the redfish population struggles in louisiana over the past few decades. Look at the sandhill cranes. Look at any resource that isnt monitored closely and look what happens when changes arent dynamic.

Let me know.

yak'em-n-stack'em 02-24-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 118079)
your not going to fish the reds out by no means but a red fish only reproduces once its over 25inch...(I believe)....... I think we should give them a chance to make it to the marsh or lake!!.......Fish have to eat so if you chunk a dead shrimp at the door he will take it..........Its like shooting Ducks coming out of the pin......... You will kill more ducks sitting by the door waiting for them to fly out...............Then you will sitting in the blind in a open field.................. Just saying we should look into giving the fish a chance to get out!!!



W you are correct, redfish only reproduce after they are 3 years old (24-28 inches) They only do it offshore too. This is why they need to get out there

yak'em-n-stack'em 02-24-2010 11:06 AM

and to clarify, i think the weirs are fine like they are. WE have terraces in that marsh, the only reason there is any land back there is because of those weirs.

Sometimes you have to sacrifice the finger to save the arm

yak'em-n-stack'em 02-24-2010 11:06 AM

oh, and

/end rant lol

Salty 02-24-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by yak'em-n-stack'em (Post 118379)
FOOL, you are what is wrong with this "generation" Get your head out of your A@$ and start thinking about the future. You know nothing about what goes into limits or regulations, I use to respect you, but you have quickly overstepped your shoe size and gotten into a way of thinking that puts you way down on the list of people on this site.

When you get home from school, look up the redfish population struggles in louisiana over the past few decades. Look at the sandhill cranes. Look at any resource that isnt monitored closely and look what happens when changes arent dynamic.

Let me know.

Of all the people here, you would think that Fool would be as concerned with conservation, restoration and management as anyone. He loves the outdoors and has his entire life to enjoy it. Although he has a good head on his shoulders, he is thirteen years old and, like anyone his age, is influenced easily. I'll leave it at that.

yak'em-n-stack'em 02-24-2010 11:12 AM

I know exactly what and who you mean salty

adamsfence 02-24-2010 12:56 PM

i really am having a hard time understanding this......this time of the year i can go almost anywhere in the lake and limit out on reds. what is the difference between that and sitting at the weirs. the weirs are easy i will say that but if you go up the east bank anywhere you can catch a limit of reds with just a little more work. 5 fish is 5 fish. W you said reds on reproduce after 25" well you cant keep but one of those. they have to be 16" to keep them. at the weirs you may set there and catch rat reds for an hour one after another and throw them back. Is it just the fact that it is easy to catch fish that gets yall upset. with the limits they set i think that should protect the fish You are letting the small ones get big and the big ones that you can only keep one of reproduce.

Ray 02-24-2010 01:05 PM

If you don't catch over your limit, you are doing nothing wrong.
There is nothing wrong with catching a limit.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions. It doesn't mean everyone else has to follow.

all star rod 02-24-2010 01:14 PM

Also, just think is you could not fish the weirs, in turn, more boats fishing the lake. Next, some will be *****ing about that and saying why cannot people fish the weirs.....this would help reduce the # of people fishing the lake. If the LDWF thought fishing the weirs were an issue, it would not be allowed.

Ray 02-24-2010 01:19 PM

There are Reds elsewhere, just too easy to get a limit at the weirs.

"W" 02-24-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 118444)
Also, just think is you could not fish the weirs, in turn, more boats fishing the lake. Next, some will be *****ing about that and saying why cannot people fish the weirs.....this would help reduce the # of people fishing the lake. If the LDWF thought fishing the weirs were an issue, it would not be allowed.

Call them and ask them that.....the have given more tickets at the weirs for outlawing shrimp,red,and fishing in posted area than they have given though out the whole lake

tgsx750f2000 02-24-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 118465)
Call them and ask them that.....the have given more tickets at the weirs for outlawing shrimp,red,and fishing in posted area than they have given though out the whole lake


Sounds like the weirs are easy fishing for them also

huntin fool 02-24-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by yak'em-n-stack'em (Post 118379)
FOOL, you are what is wrong with this "generation" Get your head out of your A@$ and start thinking about the future. You know nothing about what goes into limits or regulations, I use to respect you, but you have quickly overstepped your shoe size and gotten into a way of thinking that puts you way down on the list of people on this site.

When you get home from school, look up the redfish population struggles in louisiana over the past few decades. Look at the sandhill cranes. Look at any resource that isnt monitored closely and look what happens when changes arent dynamic.

Let me know.


My head is out of my azz. Thanks.

What pisses me off, is all the rules takes the fun out of fishing. I love it when the fish aint biting and i can go to the weirs and catch reds,why?? Because its fun!! I mean look at it like this..from a young kid who likes to fish..not me,"Daddy can we go catch reds at the weirs," "No buddy, some snot-nosed people dont allow that anymore"
The reds move around, the reds have plenty of time to get out of the weirs, yall act like people fish this place 24 friggin hours a day.
And i do care about the,"conservation", but you got to think about the average joe fishermen..Not some big trout,wannabe guide. Or some guy that knows every hole on that lake. Some people don't know any spots on biglake, and they fish the weirs for 2 sole purposes, to have fun, and catch fish to eat!

adamsfence 02-24-2010 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 118524)
My head is out of my azz, thanks for the tip :shaking:

What pisses me off, is all the rules takes the fun out of fishing. I love it when the fish aint biting and i can go to the weirs and catch reds,why?? Because its fun!! I mean look at it like this..from a young kid who likes to fish..not me,"Daddy can we go catch reds at the weirs," "No buddy, some snot-nosed people dont allow that anymore"
The reds move around, the reds have plenty of time to get out of the weirs, yall act like people fish this place 24 friggin hours a day.
And i do care about the,"conservation", but you got to think about the average joe fishermen..Not some big trout,wannabe guide. Or some guy that knows every hole on that lake. Some people don't know any spots on biglake, and they fish the weirs for 2 sole purposes, to have fun, and catch fish to eat!


:work:

huntin fool 02-24-2010 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 118528)
:work:


:D yall make things more complicated than they need to be!

Micah 02-24-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 118529)
:D yall make things more complicated than they need to be!

Preach it Fool!!!!!!

Mediumheavyaction6'6 02-24-2010 04:58 PM

last thing i want to say about this......i agree with you fool about dads taking kids out to have a good time. That being said what about every other place in this state to fish that doesn't have a "kiddy pool" for the less skilled fisherman to catch fish. What do fathers do then? The teach their kids to find the fish based on habitat and habits of fish. I have said it a thousand times on this forum that call it fishing not catching. I don't catch fish every time I go fishing and you know what that makes me a better fisherman because it forces me to try new things. The real question you should ask yourself is what does the dad say to the kids when there are no redfish to catch?

huntin fool 02-24-2010 05:02 PM

"
what does the dad say to the kids when there are no redfish to catch? "



As in they went fishing at the weirs and didn't catch fish? Well son thats why its fishing and not catching.


Yall just want to make it more complicated. And thats when all the fun is takin out of it. Not like yall are going to get this changed, so pretty much this is a waste of my time, on an ignorant thread...but yeah

adamsfence 02-24-2010 05:08 PM

[QUOTE=Mediumheavyaction6'6;118539]last thing i want to say about this......i agree with you fool about dads taking kids out to have a good time. That being said what about every other place in this state to fish that doesn't have a "kiddy pool" for the less skilled fisherman to catch fish. What do fathers do then? The teach their kids to find the fish based on habitat and habits of fish. I have said it a thousand times on this forum that call it fishing not catching. I don't catch fish every time I go fishing and you know what that makes me a better fisherman because it forces me to try new things. The real question you should ask yourself is what does the dad say to the kids when there are no redfish to catch?[/QUOTE]



do you really feel we are hurting the red fish population? it is hard for me to believe by fishing out a 1 acre area in the lake you are going to hurt the population. I'm not as educated on this as yall but you cant tell me that this is hurting the population when there is a ton of marsh entrances in the lake and ship channel but these 3 areas are the only places they are going to go hell it aint big enough for you to fit that many boats in there to hurt the population

all star rod 02-24-2010 05:09 PM

If there are no more Reds in Big Lake it will not be because of people catching their limit at the WEIRS......

adamsfence 02-24-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 118548)
If there are no more Reds in Big Lake it will not be because of people catching their limit at the WEIRS......


no more fishing the jetties this is how they get in to lake i think we should give them a fighting chance oh and no more fishing rigs this is a structure that keeps fish ganged up and its unfair too....oh and oyster reefs way to many fish there tooo

huntin fool 02-24-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 118550)
no more fishing the jetties this is how they get in to lake i think we should give them a fighting chance oh and no more fishing rigs this is a structure that keeps fish ganged up and its unfair too....oh and oyster reefs way to many fish there tooo



Don't use the birds to locate fish either!! Why you at it, might aswell ban all livebait fishing from the lake..and only 25 hp and under.

Mediumheavyaction6'6 02-24-2010 05:16 PM

[quote=adamsfence;118546]
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Originally Posted by Mediumheavyaction6'6 (Post 118539)
last thing i want to say about this......i agree with you fool about dads taking kids out to have a good time. That being said what about every other place in this state to fish that doesn't have a "kiddy pool" for the less skilled fisherman to catch fish. What do fathers do then? The teach their kids to find the fish based on habitat and habits of fish. I have said it a thousand times on this forum that call it fishing not catching. I don't catch fish every time I go fishing and you know what that makes me a better fisherman because it forces me to try new things. The real question you should ask yourself is what does the dad say to the kids when there are no redfish to catch?[/QUOTE]



do you really feel we are hurting the red fish population? it is hard for me to believe by fishing out a 1 acre area in the lake you are going to hurt the population. I'm not as educated on this as yall but you cant tell me that this is hurting the population when there is a ton of marsh entrances in the lake and ship channel but these 3 areas are the only places they are going to go hell it aint big enough for you to fit that many boats in there to hurt the population

to be honest with you adam i am not arguing the fact that this one area is going to decimate the population of reds. i am simply having trouble understanding the mentality of a person being upset that some people would like to limit the slaughter of fish. i love to eat fish and my figure represents that but i also want to be able and catch the numbers of fish i do until i can't cast a line anymore. the only way in my opinion that happens is if we educate the meat hunters and work towards preserving the above average populations we have here.

2ndamendment 02-24-2010 05:18 PM

What if, the ship channel was never dugout. Would the weirs be needed?

adamsfence 02-24-2010 05:24 PM

[quote=Mediumheavyaction6'6;118552]
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Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 118546)

to be honest with you adam i am not arguing the fact that this one area is going to decimate the population of reds. i am simply having trouble understanding the mentality of a person being upset that some people would like to limit the slaughter of fish. i love to eat fish and my figure represents that but i also want to be able and catch the numbers of fish i do until i can't cast a line anymore. the only way in my opinion that happens is if we educate the meat hunters and work towards preserving the above average populations we have here.


let me put it this way what is the difference between 4 boats at the weirs and 4 boats on a flock of birds in the middle of the lake. during the summer you can always find some birds ........... i agree that if it hurts the population lets slow down by all means. but what i am saying is the weirs can't be the problem etc lower limits, change size limits that one spot is not going to make a that much of a difference


im not arguing we just have a difference of opion on this area. its all good

Mediumheavyaction6'6 02-24-2010 05:27 PM

[quote=adamsfence;118560]
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Originally Posted by Mediumheavyaction6'6 (Post 118552)


let me put it this way what is the difference between 4 boats at the weirs and 4 boats on a flock of birds in the middle of the lake. during the summer you can always find some birds ........... i agree that if it hurts the population lets slow down by all means. but what i am saying is the weirs can't be the problem etc lower limits, change size limits that one spot is not going to make a that much of a difference


im not arguing we just have a difference of opion on this area. its all good

you and i just agreed because that is exactly what i am saying. i don't understand someone getting upset about something that could help the fish and in turn the fishermen. i am not familiar with that area at all so i can't say what is good or not good. what i am saying is if people get irate about conservation then our future is bleak.

huntin fool 02-24-2010 05:32 PM

yall are about to make me email a marine bioligist that knows my sister..

SULPHITE 02-24-2010 05:33 PM

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yall are about to make me email a marine bioligist that knows my sister..
Do it fool I dare ya!!!!

adamsfence 02-24-2010 05:34 PM

[quote=Mediumheavyaction6'6;118565]
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Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 118560)

you and i just agreed because that is exactly what i am saying. i don't understand someone getting upset about something that could help the fish and in turn the fishermen. i am not familiar with that area at all so i can't say what is good or not good. what i am saying is if people get irate about conservation then our future is bleak.


hey what about that platform for your boat did you decide not to do it or what i haven't heard anymore about it?

Ray 02-24-2010 05:37 PM

I am calling the Green Peace. They will put a stop to this.

Ray 02-24-2010 05:39 PM

This is from one of the moderators:
"No junior game wardens or bashing of legal catches allowed".

If it's legal, don't be jealous...

Salty 02-24-2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 118576)
This is from one of the moderators:
"No junior game wardens or bashing of legal catches allowed".

If it's legal, don't be jealous...

Surely, this is not about jealousy. A one-arm chimp could catch a redfish.

Mediumheavyaction6'6 02-24-2010 05:50 PM

[quote=adamsfence;118571]
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Originally Posted by Mediumheavyaction6'6 (Post 118565)


hey what about that platform for your boat did you decide not to do it or what i haven't heard anymore about it?

no dude i am still all for it! I was in the keys last week and i have just been busy with work. whenever you are free let me know and we can get together. i didn't want to bother you about it being that i don't know you that well.

adamsfence 02-24-2010 06:01 PM

hell you ain't gonna bother me......im going to grand isle this week end but after that we will fit you in if you find a design you like get as many pics as you can so we can copy

Mediumheavyaction6'6 02-24-2010 06:02 PM

sweet! i will look for designs and try and get some specs so we can build it right.

speck-chaser 02-24-2010 06:03 PM

:work:Back,Back give me a 1000 ft.:work:

huntin fool 02-24-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 118570)
Do it fool I dare ya!!!!



Im nervous :*****:

yak'em-n-stack'em 02-24-2010 07:06 PM

my comments werent as much about the weirs as they were about people's mentality towards fishing,

I will catch as many as i want because all i care about is today, not my kids future fishing.

huntin fool 02-24-2010 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yak'em-n-stack'em (Post 118615)
my comments werent as much about the weirs as they were about people's mentality towards fishing,

I will catch as many as i want because all i care about is today, not my kids future fishing.

Austin, I took the time to re-read your post further than the pull your head out of your azz part. lol.

But, If our redfish population is struggling sooo much, why are we ranked number one state for reds??? :confused:

I just hate when people make it more complicated than it needs to be. Nothing against ya bud.

yak'em-n-stack'em 02-24-2010 07:15 PM

I never said our population is struggling, but research what happend with the purse seins on redfish, and look at spoonbill catfish.

Its not about today, yes we are ranked number 1 right now, but without proper conservation we wont be,

That being said i think a 5 red limit is perfect for our state, i commend our LDWF biologists for doing their job, but hell would break loose if they tried to change it because there became a threat on the resource

Salty 02-24-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 118618)
Austin, I took the time to re-read your post further than the pull your head out of your azz part. lol.

But, If our redfish population is struggling sooo much, why are we ranked number one state for reds??? :confused:

I just hate when people make it more complicated than it needs to be. Nothing against ya bud.

Look at the regulations (limits) for the other states involved. Why are they so low? :smokin:

yak'em-n-stack'em 02-24-2010 07:26 PM

North carolina's limit is 1 between 18 and 27

speckdaddy 02-24-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 118628)
I wish our trout and redfish was catch and release then I could pick me up a good boat cheap:)

i know where ya could get a fairly new haynie fer dirt cheap if that happens:eek:

speckdaddy 02-24-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 118631)
It woudnt happen to be a black one hu:*****::*****:

i know it is a black one lmao

speckdaddy 02-24-2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 118636)
Kinda looking for a 24ft fin

yeah the old owner is small too:eek:

Country Boy 02-24-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by yak'em-n-stack'em (Post 118627)
North carolina's limit is 1 between 18 and 27

Billy stix told me they are only allowed to keep 1 redfish also in Florida.

adamsfence 02-24-2010 09:32 PM

are the others fisheries in as good as shape as ours?

"W" 02-24-2010 09:46 PM

We have the best Fishing in world.........Our fish are healthy and alive!! Our Estuary is solid and our reefs are healthy......... As long as the weirs fishing is legal......hey its all good!!! I just think someone should look at making the 250 a 1000feet give the fish a chance to flee........ Someone above said you think these few small areas hurt our fishing.........Yes I do.....when Reds and Shrimp only have 4 ways into a marsh and its loaded with hooks and castnets!!! So you funnel all your fish to one spot in and out!!!!....... Im not against someone slamming reds at the weirs I have done it my self this year!!! I just dont know how much our population is taking a hit!!! I was told by a guide that between 5 boats they harvested about 3000 reds in a month......

huntin fool 02-24-2010 09:51 PM

5 boats they harvested about 3000 reds in a month......


Dang somebody needs to catch some trout..


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