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flounder_smacker 06-10-2009 12:42 AM

almost all the people i know who fish the bay all use dead shrimp under cork or on the bottom. they catch sometimes but they dont understand trout dont like dead shrimp. you never really hear reports from vbay either. nobody gives up spots. you actually have to hunt fro fish. i want w to bring his 16 footer out there and see what he can scrape up lol.

Feesherman 06-10-2009 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by matt wahl (Post 13165)
Ive heard of truck beds full of trout!

Yes but that is when we used to be able to seine the surf!!

"W" 06-10-2009 10:03 AM

Still want some opinions on who thinks Big Lake should be Artificial only!!!!! I would not mind letting people use live or dead bait off the banks but in a boat Artificial!!!! This this will ever get anywhere???

huntin fool 06-10-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 13303)
Still want some opinions on who thinks Big Lake should be Artificial only!!!!! I would not mind letting people use live or dead bait off the banks but in a boat Artificial!!!! This this will ever get anywhere???


they should have season for live bait. and year around artificial

Finfeatherfur 06-10-2009 10:13 AM

All this talk about LDWF & Biologist and creel limits and this and that..........What we fail to remember is that mother nature will take care of herself. One way or another, mother nature will keep everything balanced!

I am not for the 15 fish creel limit and never was, only because of the way this came about. I was pissed that all these feel gooders got behind Fred Miller's crusade (R.I.P) and got it passed w/o strong data going either way. I am for a set limit, and I don't really mind a 14" size limit, as long as it is statewide. We have way more trout than everyone thinks, and unless you start a harvest w/ nets, where tons of fish are taken daily, we will never put a dent on them.

Feesherman 06-10-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 13303)
Still want some opinions on who thinks Big Lake should be Artificial only!!!!! I would not mind letting people use live or dead bait off the banks but in a boat Artificial!!!! This this will ever get anywhere???


Let me start out by saying I do not fish with live bait. I don't like to buy it and try to keep it alive. I don't need lots of specks, I fill my freezer with flounder and catch them on artificial as well. Now for my opinion. I disagree with yours. I do not understand why you would want to start that war between fishermen? It sounds like you are being selfish and want what YOU think is best for big lake or what's best for your situation. Not only that, you have no basis or research for such a claim that it will better the fishery and is best for the resource. United we can conquer, divided we fall and you seek to drive a wedge into the fishing community!

Now, as far as speck tournys go, I wouldn't mind seeing them be artificial only.

huntin fool 06-10-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 13309)
Let me start out by saying I do not fish with live bait. I don't like to buy it and try to keep it alive. I don't need lots of specks, I fill my freezer with flounder and catch them on artificial as well. Now for my opinion. I disagree with yours. I do not understand why you would want to start that war between fishermen? It sounds like you are being selfish and want what YOU think is best for big lake or what's best for your situation. Not only that, you have no basis or research for such a claim that it will better the fishery and is best for the resource. United we can conquer, divided we fall and you seek to drive a wedge into the fishing community!

Now, as far as speck tournys go, I wouldn't mind seeing them be artificial only.



The shootout should def. be artificial only. no more croaker soaking in the ship channel.

i'll admit i used alot of live bait come august and end of july last year. but this year im rolling artificial. My dad and his padnas can use ALL the mullet they want. but i want artificial.

cmdrost 06-10-2009 11:24 AM

Finfeather: The LDWF said at the time of lowering trout limits that SPR levels had been below their set average of 18% for sometime and were continuing downward. Now on the other side, they also said lowering it to 15 wouldn't help increase SPR levels, that it would have to to go 10 or lower. Which nobody wanted to do...CCA or LDWF.

I have yet to hear where current SPR levels are now.

cmdrost 06-10-2009 11:27 AM

W:

Why ban live bait? That agruement makes no sense to me. Live or dead bait is the original bait....its what all these imitations we use model themselves after. I rarely use it, but its nice to put a shrimp on a poppin cork for my 3 yr old boy.

huntin fool 06-10-2009 11:31 AM

cmdrost..W signed me up for CCA at the banquet and said i was suppose to get my info in the mail, i haven't received mine yet, are they just running slow or what?


sorry for hijacking the thread just needed to ask a quick question...

killa k 06-10-2009 12:53 PM

I think when we start restricting the type of baits used in everyday recreational fishing that would open up a whole other can of worms (no pun intended). If you say "no live bait" what's next? Only 10lb test or less, no hooks smaller than 4/0, rods have to be medium or stiffer? Technology is what seperates man from beast and I think that we should be able to use any SPORTING technology out there to put a limit in if we want. Think about all the advancements that have been made in the last 50 years or even the last decade...from baits to rods & reels, SONAR, GPS, etc... I was out of the game for about 8 years and a lot of my stuff was antique, and a lot was just as good now as then. I think it is a matter of your personal ideas of what is sportsman like or not.
Personally, I prefer to use artificial because it is more of a challenge but at times I use live bait, but only if I caught it myself.

To each his own.

Feesherman 06-10-2009 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 13329)
cmdrost..W signed me up for CCA at the banquet and said i was suppose to get my info in the mail, i haven't received mine yet, are they just running slow or what?


sorry for hijacking the thread just needed to ask a quick question...


They usually take a LONG time. I signed up after the banquet and got my stuff the other day. I was really surprised. Used to get my stuff more toward end of summer.

Finfeatherfur 06-10-2009 01:20 PM

Hunting Fool: it may take up to 4 weeks to get your stuff in the mail. It has gotten better over the last few months, but it still takes them awhile!

Drost- Say what you want, we will just have to continue to agree to disagree. The biologist of this state work with hand cuffs on. They are being dictated around by the LDWF Commission and those idiots don't know crap, but they do know politics. Look at the current commission, does any of them know what in the world they are talking about? I doubt it...... I think our resorces are in bad shape looking into the future because of changes we will make over the next 10 years. I hope I am very wrong!

cmdrost 06-10-2009 01:26 PM

"The biologist of this state work with hand cuffs on."

I agree with this 100%. I wish they could get the funding and resources they need to more completely do their job. They get no money from the state govt, which is very sad.

cmdrost 06-10-2009 01:27 PM

fool....I sent you a PM, but figured I'd say same thing Finfeather said.

LA has to send everything to national office in Houston, TX. Process time takes a while.

SULPHITE 06-10-2009 01:43 PM

Fool, just recieved my packet on Monday...I had signed up at the banquet too.

What are the benefits of being on the board of LDWF?? How does politics play a role in benifiting the sportsman??

LaAngler 06-10-2009 05:29 PM

Wow, this thread was hijacked BAD!!!! I even got sucked in.....:eek:

Hopedale Hustler 06-10-2009 05:44 PM

man...y cant we just leave it all as is..its going smooth now..and as repeated over history when u change things it brings downfalls and problems before comes good...if u changed the limit to 10 fish i personally know prolly 1000 fisherman that wouldnt spend time or money to go after these fish..less fish=less fisherman=less conservationist=dying of the sport...wouldnt mind the 14 inch limit..and i think 15 fish limits for places like Big Lake Or Lake P or maybe even places like Lafite and Dulac Were trout are fewer in numbers and smaller is ok too...but if u were to try to tell a Breton Sound Fisherman he can only catch 10 fish that would create madness...BSM is one of the richest trout sactuarys in the country and to catch these fish during the summer requires a 20+ mile run...we may need to pinpoint and target smaller fisheries in our state and set limits and sizes for certain ones but not all of them...just a thought dont wanna cause no arguing or anything like that..

Salty 06-10-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 13309)
Let me start out by saying I do not fish with live bait. I don't like to buy it and try to keep it alive. I don't need lots of specks, I fill my freezer with flounder and catch them on artificial as well. Now for my opinion. I disagree with yours. I do not understand why you would want to start that war between fishermen? It sounds like you are being selfish and want what YOU think is best for big lake or what's best for your situation. Not only that, you have no basis or research for such a claim that it will better the fishery and is best for the resource. United we can conquer, divided we fall and you seek to drive a wedge into the fishing community!

Now, as far as speck tournys go, I wouldn't mind seeing them be artificial only.



Now you understand why we don't let him run this site. :rolleyes:


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