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Spunt Drag 04-30-2012 11:06 PM

The life of a land manager

DUCKGOGETTER 05-01-2012 06:56 AM

NICE!!!!!

Feesherman 05-01-2012 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 426169)
Got my back couple acres bush hogged, guess I need to buy some seed and start planting.

If you spray and kill that grass, then disk, let the weeds come up again, and spray one more time and then disk and plant you will be in great shape.

Micah 05-01-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 426383)
If you spray and kill that grass, then disk, let the weeds come up again, and spray one more time and then disk and plant you will be in great shape.

Cool, I'll try that.

Reefman 05-01-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 426383)
If you spray and kill that grass, then disk, let the weeds come up again, and spray one more time and then disk and plant you will be in great shape.

That, above, is great advice Micah. You might be surprised to find birdeye popping up after your second spraying. Don't use round up, it will kill goat weed and birdeye. I would get a coupla pounds of sunflower and plant a few rows in the middle of your field. Use the sunflower as natural blinds until the second season. Let seed fall naturally, i wouldn't burn the sunflower...keep the weeds away from from your sunflowers, keep your ground clean as possible underneath. Doves will fly on to the big seed clusters and try to knock off seeds on the ground then drop to feed. The cleaner your field the better. Tie vines are your worst enemy.

DUCKGOGETTER 05-01-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by reefman (Post 426423)
that, above, is great advice micah. You might be surprised to find birdeye popping up after your second spraying. Don't use round up, it will kill goat weed and birdeye. I would get a coupla pounds of sunflower and plant a few rows in the middle of your field. Use the sunflower as natural blinds until the second season. Let seed fall naturally, i wouldn't burn the sunflower...keep the weeds away from from your sunflowers, keep your ground clean as possible underneath. Doves will fly on to the big seed clusters and try to knock off seeds on the ground then drop to feed. The cleaner your field the better. Tie vines are your worst enemy.


is it a good idea to run a harrow through disc area to clear dirt of all weeds too? Also is the actual name for birdseye (pigweed)?

Reefman 05-01-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 426431)
is it a good idea to run a harrow through disc area to clear dirt of all weeds too? Also is the actual name for birdseye (pigweed)?

The first plowing buries the grass and weeds and kills them. The seed from these buried grasses will sprout up shortly; that's where the second disking comes in, along with herbiside. I've never used a harrow to clean the plowed ground. Chris, I looked up pics of pigweed and I don't think this is the same as birdseye; might be in the same family, leaf looks very simular however the seed pod doesn't.

Micah 05-01-2012 10:25 AM

What should I use to kill grass?

DUCKGOGETTER 05-01-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by reefman (Post 426444)
the first plowing buries the grass and weeds and kills them. The seed from these buried grasses will sprout up shortly; that's where the second disking comes in, along with herbiside. I've never used a harrow to clean the plowed ground. Chris, i looked up pics of pigweed and i don't think this is the same as birdseye; might be in the same family, leaf looks very simular however the seed pod doesn't.


i thought the same thing as it looks similar, but i don't think that's it.

Duck Butter 05-01-2012 10:52 AM

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=CAPA11

This is what people down here call birdseye. Its an invasive exotic weed that farmers hate but doves really like!

False croton (Goatweed is a croton) is another name

LSU will tell you how to kill it, but not grow it! Better pics in here

http://www.lsuagcenter.com/en/crops_...+palustris.htm

Reefman 05-01-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 426447)
What should I use to kill grass?

Your disking/plowing twice will kill the grass. The only area to use herbicide is the sunflower area. Using herbicide on brown top will not only stunt its growth but also kill your goat weed and what birdeye will come up with the millet.
I've called my friend who prepares the fields to give me the name and ratio of the herbicide he uses for the sunflowers.

Dual 21oz to an acre
Spartan 4 oz to an acre.
8lbs of prodovic sunflower seed per acre (broadcasted).

Brown top millet broadcasted 20lbs/acre.

Fertilizer 25-15-15 200lbs/acre

hope this helps....

Micah 05-01-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 426459)
Your disking/plowing twice will kill the grass. The only area to use herbicide is the sunflower area. Using herbicide on brown top will not only stunt its growth but also kill your goat weed and what birdeye will come up with the millet.
I've called my friend who prepares the fields to give me the name and ratio of the herbicide he uses for the sunflowers.

Dual 21oz to an acre
Spartan 4 oz to an acre.
8lbs of prodovic sunflower seed per acre (broadcasted).

Brown top millet broadcasted 20lbs/acre.

Fertilizer 25-15-15 200lbs/acre

hope this helps....

Thanks man, you've been a big help!!!!

Micah 05-01-2012 12:59 PM

I'll post some pics of my progress....I'm pumped. We got lots of birds in the area already and I can kill a few just pass shooting, I'm hoping by planting I can invite people for some shoots and kill enough to make all this worth it.

DUCKGOGETTER 05-01-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by micah (Post 426490)
i'll post some pics of my progress....i'm pumped. We got lots of birds in the area already and i can kill a few just pass shooting, i'm hoping by planting i can invite people for some shoots and kill enough to make all this worth it.

holla if you need some help getting it ready?

Micah 05-01-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 426492)
holla if you need some help getting it ready?

Shouldn't be too bad but I'll give you a call if I need some help.

DUCKGOGETTER 05-01-2012 01:23 PM

Been looking on the internet about different dove plots, but it looks Reefman knows his ****!!!

Reefman 05-01-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 426498)
Been looking on the internet about different dove plots, but it looks Reefman knows his ****!!!

Thanks Chris, however I know very little. I just follow orders from the head guy of our dove club. He's now retired and devotes all his time to preparing dove plots. He really knows his *****! Big Time!

DUCKGOGETTER 05-01-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by reefman (Post 426502)
thanks chris, however i know very little. I just follow orders from the head guy of our dove club. He's now retired and devotes all his time to preparing dove plots. He really knows his *****! Big time!


lol!!!!!!!!!! Well someone knows their ****!!!!

Micah 05-01-2012 04:41 PM

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Anyone know what these seeds are or if they are worth anything? Got em all over.

Duck Butter 05-02-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah (Post 426598)
Anyone know what these seeds are or if they are worth anything? Got em all over.

Almost looks like a wild onion/garlic (Allium spp.) but can't see the leaves or the plant in that picture. If it smells like onions then thats it. My wife did tell me I was wrong on something yesterday, so....:)


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