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"W" 06-28-2014 08:52 PM

Smalls the head gate guy is the biggest duck hunter behind the weirs


I can't wait till July 9th to hear them lie when I bust there aZZ about duck hunting

Smalls 06-28-2014 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 703027)
Smalls the head gate guy is the biggest duck hunter behind the weirs


I can't wait till July 9th to hear them lie when I bust there aZZ about duck hunting

I asked you for his name months ago, and you never gave it to me.

Why is that?

If you could actually prove me wrong, I would admit it. But you always skirt my questions. Why is that?

Duck Butter 06-28-2014 09:06 PM

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"W" 06-28-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 703029)
I asked you for his name months ago, and you never gave it to me.

Why is that?

If you could actually prove me wrong, I would admit it. But you always skirt my questions. Why is that?

I did give it to you.... Don't remember now but look back I posted it


Again "WE" "Us" locals know it's all about duck hunting , you forget that 90% of the full time guides also guide duck hunting

We know !!! You can act like it's to save the marsh but that's like saying Obama is trying to save healthcare

Evans 06-28-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 703027)
Smalls the head gate guy is the biggest duck hunter behind the weirs


I can't wait till July 9th to hear them lie when I bust there aZZ about duck hunting

I'll be there to hear what they got to say!

Smalls 06-28-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 703036)
I did give it to you.... Don't remember now but look back I posted it


Again "WE" "Us" locals know it's all about duck hunting , you forget that 90% of the full time guides also guide duck hunting

We know !!! You can act like it's to save the marsh but that's like saying Obama is trying to save healthcare

Nah, pretty sure you never did. Go look it up.

And if you did, why don't you post it back up? Shouldn't be a big issue for you.

In case you don't remember, I am from Lake Charles. I care just as much about that area as you do. Maybe more, considering I actually dedicated the first 2 1/2 years of my career to its conservation.

Contrary to what you believe, Waltrip, You aren't the only one that knows a lot of people that care about the resources.

DannyI 06-28-2014 09:46 PM

I will only make one comment on all this, "only" scientific facts should be used to control the weirs. At this point, only MG has offered any "facts", the rest, well each side has their beliefs. The meeting will be interesting "if" truth is discussed and not turn into a shouting arguing match. But the only thing I can say, if anyone doesn't believe that "money" controls all things in this state, and the world, you got your head in a hole.

Smalls 06-28-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyI (Post 703042)
I will only make one comment on all this, "only" scientific facts should be used to control the weirs. At this point, only MG has offered any "facts", the rest, well each side has their beliefs. The meeting will be interesting "if" truth is discussed and not turn into a shouting arguing match. But the only thing I can say, if anyone doesn't believe that "money" controls all things in this state, and the world, you got your head in a hole.


Dude, I've thrown up so many facts on these weirs and that marsh, it ain't even funny. This conversation has been going on for a LONG, LONG, LONG time. I've even offered some of the reports I have on research that has been done on the Cameron-Creole. I quit posting the same thing over and over again because people don't care to know anything scientific unless it supports their side.

Here's your link Waltrip. Find where you posted the name.


homerun 06-28-2014 09:59 PM

Ive been hunting behind weirs for 30 years. The better blinds in marsh tend to be closer to the weirs where it is saltier. I do not believe weirs are for duck hunting.

cajun dave 06-28-2014 09:59 PM

Could someone please let all of us know when and where this meeting will be held?

Smalls 06-28-2014 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cajun dave (Post 703047)
Could someone please let all of us know when and where this meeting will be held?

Its July 9th at Prien Lake Park if I remember correctly. Look for the CCA E-Mail thread.

cajun dave 06-28-2014 10:08 PM

Thanks. Will do.

noodle creek 06-28-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 703036)
I did give it to you.... Don't remember now but look back I posted it


Again "WE" "Us" locals know it's all about duck hunting , you forget that 90% of the full time guides also guide duck hunting

We know !!! You can act like it's to save the marsh but that's like saying Obama is trying to save healthcare

He gave it to you. Go back and look.

noodle creek 06-28-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 703045)
Dude, I've thrown up so many facts on these weirs and that marsh, it ain't even funny. This conversation has been going on for a LONG, LONG, LONG time. I've even offered some of the reports I have on research that has been done on the Cameron-Creole. I quit posting the same thing over and over again because people don't care to know anything scientific unless it supports their side.

Here's your link Waltrip. Find where you posted the name.

Inshore Saltwater Fishing Discussion: Weirs Closed - SaltyCajun.com

You've thrown up facts, but bottom line is, operation of the wiers is contracted out. Explain why they are open with water pouring into the marsh, and closed when it rains it's a** off. Whoever is operating them is not going by your facts as to when it should be opened and closed.

I don't want to see land lost, but I also don't want to see a huge estuary choked off of a major food source.

Come on man, do you believe everything the government tells you? This day and age, it's about money and politics. I know you are smart enough to understand that.

noodle creek 06-28-2014 11:00 PM

Operation of weirs right now is a joke. Bigger issue is rocking the ship channel.

MathGeek 06-29-2014 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 703045)
Dude, I've thrown up so many facts on these weirs and that marsh, it ain't even funny. This conversation has been going on for a LONG, LONG, LONG time. I've even offered some of the reports I have on research that has been done on the Cameron-Creole. I quit posting the same thing over and over again because people don't care to know anything scientific unless it supports their side.

Here's your link Waltrip. Find where you posted the name.

Inshore Saltwater Fishing Discussion: Weirs Closed - SaltyCajun.com

Thanks for the link. There was a lot of good discussion and information posted in that thread. Also note that back in April, a number of folks thought there was something really wrong because their fish catches were down. Others suggested the fish might just be in an unusual pattern and not being caught because of the cooler spring and changed foraging habits.

Now that it's late June, "W" and other guides have been reporting catching limits of specks just about every day, and often by 9:00 AM. Those fish being caught in June were in or near the estuary back in April, they just were not being caught then because even the experienced Big Lake anglers did not know where they were.

Specks are an unpredictable fish and Big Lake is an unpredictable lake. A few months of bad fishing does not mean the sky is falling, it just means the fish are doing something unexpected.

Smalls 06-29-2014 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 703054)
He gave it to you. Go back and look.


Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

"W" 06-29-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 703072)
Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

I posted his name on a thread , I will find who he is again don't worry .


Also tell me why they opened the weirs Mermoral weekend for 72 hrs when the lake salinity was high and marsh was high and 3-4 ft lower than the lake

The lake flowed into the marsh all of those days so why did they open it??







I will tell you why! they are getting heat over the way it's mismanaged and more and more are putting pressure on them about trying to manage the duck grass for duck hunters !!


I can't wait for them to straight aZZ lie to the public July. 9th

"W" 06-29-2014 08:54 AM

Also it should be a conflict of interest for the federal Goverment to allow someone who benefits off the marsh (duck hunters) to run it.

This will be my question at the meeting . How many guys who work on the contract to control weirs duck hunt or have a lease behind the weirs.

" names and leases are being worked on as we speak " if they lie to the public we will have 100% proof with names

slickfish 06-29-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 703072)
Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

This is also the same guy that says you can catch redfish using a car battery.


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