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all star rod 01-04-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 371761)
That's all well and good. But the man paid for a lease and if he chooses to skybust or pass shoot it really is no one's business. He paid, it's his!

x2...I do not like to sky bust....but maybe they should not lease blinds that are so close.....its all about how much money the landowner can get.....period

last year I was on a good rice field lease that had four blinds....really should of only been 2 but like most landowners or people that may lease or sub lease a blind, it is all about the money,,,,,well the guy who ran the farm did not like when others hunted unless he happen to hunt that day. He wanted you to pay 5 k and hunt 1 or 2 times a week like a Dr buddy of his who was leaseing one of the blinds on the farm....he basically told the landowner we would shoot early or late and all kinds of other crap. Well we lost the lease but I found a good one for this year. Best part was he got run off by the landowner before the start of the season...not sure why.

huntin fool 01-04-2012 08:20 PM

I'm sorry, letme explain how the sky busting affects it as far as geese... When he sky busts into a big group of geese, the group that was constantly dropping and heading towards the blind, when shot at breaks up and heads a completely different direction.

Ragin_Cajun 01-04-2012 08:23 PM

Time to eat my "crow"...no pun intended. How does the farmer come out smelling like a rose after setting up the blinds like this. Hope both of you work it out and thanks for comming forward to defend. Always two sides to a story and i stuck my foot in my mouth before hearing the other......sorry again.

Feesherman 01-05-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 371774)
I'm sorry, letme explain how the sky busting affects it as far as geese... When he sky busts into a big group of geese, the group that was constantly dropping and heading towards the blind, when shot at breaks up and heads a completely different direction.

I understand the affects of skybusting. Believe me, I do. I hunt the refuges. But you need to understand that it is not the fault of either party that the blinds are too close to each other. You have to understand that he paid for a lease. It's his lease. I can assure you, no one will dictate my actions on MY lease that I paid for.

Lake Chuck Duck 01-05-2012 07:47 AM

I guarantee that there isnt one person on this site that can truthfully say "I never sky bust". Not one person. Everyone does it out of necessity sometimes. If its a slow day and nothing wants to work, and all you get is one or two groups of snows flying over.....you are going to shoot, period. As yall know we have had a terrible season this year, and sometimes the only shot we get is at a group of snow on the pass. Oh well, coming up empty handed sucks when you pay that much money.

DUCKGOGETTER 01-05-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lake chuck duck (Post 371904)
i guarantee that there isnt one person on this site that can truthfully say "i never sky bust". Not one person. Everyone does it out of necessity sometimes. If its a slow day and nothing wants to work, and all you get is one or two groups of snows flying over.....you are going to shoot, period. As yall know we have had a terrible season this year, and sometimes the only shot we get is at a group of snow on the pass. Oh well, coming up empty handed sucks when you pay that much money.


x2 everybody sky bust sometimes

cajunsorc 01-05-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 371901)
I understand the affects of skybusting. Believe me, I do. I hunt the refuges. But you need to understand that it is not the fault of either party that the blinds are too close to each other. You have to understand that he paid for a lease. It's his lease. I can assure you, no one will dictate my actions on MY lease that I paid for.

Look guys. I'm not asking this guy not to shoot at birds. Im asking that he not skyblast or shoot crows or shoot blackbirds while we have birds working our spread as I wouldn't do that to him.

I guess it would be like catching 2-4lb trout under the birds and this guy coming into them on plane and shutting down right in the middle of where you are catching em. And then you find another school and he does it again......and again......and again. Its public water and he as just as much right to do that as you do to sit there and catch em.

The first time he did it most people would be ready to jump in the boat and kick his a$$. How many of you would politely ask him to stop as I did not just the first time he did it but several times.

Its just common courtesy and sportsmanship that seem to be missing from so many people's vocabulary these days and with 2 young boys in the blind with me that I'm trying to show the "right" way to do things, its frustrating.

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Originally Posted by DeeCee (Post 371671)
I've read all this, and think I have figured out who the real *** is. Cajunsorc, you are the winner. I am always suspicious of a hunter who says he "works" birds to within 15 yards. Much of your *****ing seems to be an effort to brag about what a great hunter you are. I wouldn't want to hunt a blind, that before I shoot, I would need to peep up to make sure no birds were circling the next blind over.

And as far as me bragging about me being a great hunter.....................That IS what this is ALL about as you can see all of my hunting pictures and posts about our great hunts posted here on this site in hunting reports. OH YEAH--I LOVE to brag soooo much that I didn't post any!!!!!

He knew where the blinds were BEFORE he paid for the lease and we had several lengthy phone conversations prior to him leasing the blind. I have learned a valuable lesson and would like to thank everyone for their opinions. Sorry, if I ruffled anyones feathers.

Jordan 01-05-2012 09:51 AM

How hard is it to move a blind ?? Can it be done after duck season so all this childish bull crap would stop ?

cajunsorc 01-05-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 371944)
How hard is it to move a blind ?? Can it be done after duck season so all this childish bull crap would stop ?

I will probably lease the blind next year and use if for a dry field goose blind. Problem solved.

evidrine 01-05-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cajunsorc (Post 371949)
I will probably lease the blind next year and use if for a dry field goose blind. Problem solved.

Kinda sounds like thats what you wanted all along. Just my $0.02

cajunsorc 01-05-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by evidrine (Post 371952)
Kinda sounds like thats what you wanted all along. Just my $0.02


Nope. I could have leased it this year. Its hard to pony up $4500 for only 2 or 3 hunts a year.

DUCKGOGETTER 01-05-2012 10:01 AM

I mean i have guys hunting to the west of me that sky blast all the time. Hell even we do it on slow mornings. Even though it pisses me off when i got a group of birds working and they shoot at high ones passing nothing i can do about it period! It's there blind they can hunt how they want to.

Lake Chuck Duck 01-05-2012 10:13 AM

Even if you had birds working your blind, but he was steady killing birds sitting in his decoys (as in not sky busting) making your birds flare.......would you still be irritated? Probably so.

Point being, its a known fact that it screws you up when others shoot, sky bust or not. Thats hunting 101. Matter a fact if you are the one with the "duckier blind", put yourself in his shoes. Think how much you shoot compared to him. Could you be screwing him up just as much? Think about it...

Keep in mind no one really knows the truth except yall 2. We are all just a bunch of Judge Judy's, you both got a chance to speak and now we tell you who is wrong. (really just killing time at work lol :smokin:)

DUCKGOGETTER 01-05-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lake chuck duck (Post 371963)
even if you had birds working your blind, but he was steady killing birds sitting in his decoys (as in not sky busting) making your birds flare.......would you still be irritated? Probably so.

Point being, its a known fact that it screws you up when others shoot, sky bust or not. Thats hunting 101. Matter a fact if you are the one with the "duckier blind", put yourself in his shoes. Think how much you shoot compared to him. Could you be screwing him up just as much? Think about it...

Keep in mind no one really knows the truth except yall 2. We are all just a bunch of judge judy's, you both got a chance to speak and now we tell you who is wrong. (really just killing time at work lol :smokin:)


x2 good point LCD

redaddiction 01-05-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 371963)
Even if you had birds working your blind, but he was steady killing birds sitting in his decoys (as in not sky busting) making your birds flare.......would you still be irritated? Probably so.

That's what I was thinking. Does a guns muzzle blast sound different to ducks when you sky bust as compared to decoying ducks making them flair more? LOL!!

If the sounds of gunshots are messing up your hunt's then you either have to deal with it or go buy yourself 10,000 acres somewhere and put yourself one blind smack in the middle so you can have peace and queit!!

evidrine 01-05-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 372015)
That's what I was thinking. Does a guns muzzle blast sound different to ducks when you sky bust as compared to decoying ducks making them flair more? LOL!!

If the sounds of gunshots are messing up your hunt's then you either have to deal with it or go buy yourself 10,000 acres somewhere and put yourself one blind smack in the middle so you can have peace and queit!!

agreed!

evidrine 01-05-2012 12:53 PM

I would think that anytime "Sky bustin" would screw you up is if you were sitting the same blind. You have shot plent enough birds so far. Its one thing to take your hunting seriously, but once you start worrying about what everyone else is doing, it tuns into a different story. Next season you will have your duck blind and your goose blind back. Sounds like you win.

jdm4x43732 01-05-2012 01:13 PM

Now both sides story has been spoken.... I know if I dropped $4,500.00 on a blind and I wanted to hunt in a pink dress and shoot my decoys that is my business. Not that I agree with sky busting but I can say we have all done it at some point. Even Phil Robertson had to learn how to hunt at some point, he wasn't born with a beard and face paint.

cmcnabb 01-05-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by evidrine (Post 372019)
I would think that anytime "Sky bustin" would screw you up is if you were sitting the same blind. You have shot plent enough birds so far. Its one thing to take your hunting seriously, but once you start worrying about what everyone else is doing, it tuns into a different story. Next season you will have your duck blind and your goose blind back. Sounds like you win.

Your first statement is wrong. Sky busting educates birds. When you sky bust, how many birds are you killing out of a group? None! Maybe 1. Now the whole group has seen what a blind looks like and since this happens several times a morning, they learn a lot. I think what Cajunsorc is trying to get across is being misinterpreted. Does a muzzle blast from 15 yards teach a bird just as much as a blast from 100 yards? Absolutely! But when your smoking 6 or 7 birds a flock, ain't many left to remember you so which is more efficient? I didn't learn how to work birds by shooting as soon as I could kill them, I learned by missing out on some birds a lot of days. A lot of people get caught up in wanting to "kill" more than "hunt". I was lucky enough to have someone teach me the right way to do things

evidrine 01-05-2012 01:46 PM

Not denying any of that at all. Just saying that when it comes down to it, it aint illegal is it? Point being, he paid his dues, worry about you not the other guy. Especially if you have taken more birds than most other guys this season already. If obviously aint messin you up that bad.

evidrine 01-05-2012 01:50 PM

I'm not gonna lie to ya. If you read all of this it does come accorss as him being used to having his run of both blinds. Seems to always be issues when haveing to share one with someone else. Just the way I see it.

Niothin against any of you guys. I mean, I dont even know you. Just seems like a lot of venting goin on.

Duck Butter 01-05-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cmcnabb (Post 372028)
Your first statement is wrong. Sky busting educates birds. When you sky bust, how many birds are you killing out of a group? None! Maybe 1. Now the whole group has seen what a blind looks like and since this happens several times a morning, they learn a lot.

Ducks get educated real quick skybusting or not. EVERYTHING educates birds, what if you shoot your limit and are walking out to pick up your decoys and ducks are working? Dogs picking up birds while ducks are working? What If 50 ducks come in and sit 10 feet from your blind and you knock out 8 of them, there are 42 ducks out there that just got a real lesson and probably are gonna be a little shy about the next bunch of plastic things that are all surprisingly sitting in one little area of a huge field, none of them are moving and there is a duck sitting on a metal pole flapping his wings:smokin:



You will NEVER find a completely satisfied duck hunter, and a farmer will NEVER have a problem leasing a field because there are suckers born every SINGLE day:help:

If I was that farmer, I would put MORE blinds out there and make even more money from silly duck hunters

cajunsorc 01-05-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 372023)
Tell you what I would be very polite the first time and the second time it wont be good for one of us. In our marsh if you sky bust I will come meet you one time and then thats it, we dont sky bust and for those who do thanks for teaching birds to flare a half a mile from the blind. Thats why alot of yall dont kill birds in a area and a 1/4 of a mile is not close guys sorry


Well said!!!

cajunsorc 01-05-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmcnabb (Post 372028)
Your first statement is wrong. Sky busting educates birds. When you sky bust, how many birds are you killing out of a group? None! Maybe 1. Now the whole group has seen what a blind looks like and since this happens several times a morning, they learn a lot. I think what Cajunsorc is trying to get across is being misinterpreted. Does a muzzle blast from 15 yards teach a bird just as much as a blast from 100 yards? Absolutely! But when your smoking 6 or 7 birds a flock, ain't many left to remember you so which is more efficient? I didn't learn how to work birds by shooting as soon as I could kill them, I learned by missing out on some birds a lot of days. A lot of people get caught up in wanting to "kill" more than "hunt". I was lucky enough to have someone teach me the right way to do things

EXACTLY

cajunsorc 01-05-2012 03:23 PM

[QUOTE=Duck Butter;372042]Ducks get educated real quick skybusting or not. EVERYTHING educates birds, what if you shoot your limit and are walking out to pick up your decoys and ducks are working? Dogs picking up birds while ducks are working? What If 50 ducks come in and sit 10 feet from your blind and you knock out 8 of them, there are 42 ducks out there that just got a real lesson and probably are gonna be a little shy about the next bunch of plastic things that are all surprisingly sitting in one little area of a huge field, none of them are moving and there is a duck sitting on a metal pole flapping his wings:smokin:


What if the 50 ducks were about 60yds above your blind and the guy in the blind just over from you skyblasted 50 birds over his blind----you have 100 educated birds and no one killed a thing.

all star rod 01-05-2012 03:26 PM

duck butter....maybe you should lease that blind next year....

Duck Butter 01-05-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 372097)
duck butter....maybe you should lease that blind next year....

I would rather hunt public and know what to expect than be out 4K!

A fella can buy a nice boat with a blind for that much:)

BIG RED 1983 01-05-2012 03:54 PM

[quote=cajunsorc;372095]
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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 372042)
Ducks get educated real quick skybusting or not. EVERYTHING educates birds, what if you shoot your limit and are walking out to pick up your decoys and ducks are working? Dogs picking up birds while ducks are working? What If 50 ducks come in and sit 10 feet from your blind and you knock out 8 of them, there are 42 ducks out there that just got a real lesson and probably are gonna be a little shy about the next bunch of plastic things that are all surprisingly sitting in one little area of a huge field, none of them are moving and there is a duck sitting on a metal pole flapping his wings:smokin:


What if the 50 ducks were about 60yds above your blind and the guy in the blind just over from you skyblasted 50 birds over his blind----you have 100 educated birds and no one killed a thing.


Cash is king he payed up he can do what he wants if he wanted to be a real @$$ seeing as how he was called out he could sky bust all day when he sees you out there.

longcast 01-05-2012 03:57 PM

Yup. I'm gonna stick with fishing. It's safer and I don't have to put up with anyone's ****.

DUCKGOGETTER 01-05-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by longcast (Post 372106)
yup. I'm gonna stick with fishing. It's safer and i don't have to put up with anyone's ****.


yeah there's way less yahoos on the lake

Lake Chuck Duck 01-05-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 372108)
yeah there's way less yahoos on the lake

Yeah right! lol....are we talking about Big Lake?

Duck Butter 01-05-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by longcast (Post 372106)
Yup. I'm gonna stick with fishing. It's safer and I don't have to put up with anyone's ****.

You can have 50 boats fishing in a square mile and it ain't gonna matter too much, but if you have 4 duckhunters hunting in a square mile, then it aint good. There is nothing a duckhunter hates more than hearing other gunfire

longcast 01-05-2012 04:20 PM

At least on the lake I can move. I don't think you can just up and move a blind. Or I can just toss Jared out the boat. Lol.

DUCKGOGETTER 01-05-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by longcast (Post 372114)
at least on the lake i can move. I don't think you can just up and move a blind. Or i can just toss jared out the boat. Lol.


good point!

huntin fool 01-05-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 371901)
I understand the affects of skybusting. Believe me, I do. I hunt the refuges. But you need to understand that it is not the fault of either party that the blinds are too close to each other. You have to understand that he paid for a lease. It's his lease. I can assure you, no one will dictate my actions on MY lease that I paid for.

The blinds aren't too close. Myself and Shawn hunt around the same distance if not closer, and we both kill limits with no problem.

Next, just because you leased it, doesn't make you soul boss. The land owner can very easily dictate your actions!

PaulMyers 01-05-2012 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 372154)
Next, just because you leased it, doesn't make you soul boss. The land owner can very easily dictate your actions!

But its obvious the land owner doesn't care because he didn't step in.



+1

Uncle Barty 01-05-2012 06:54 PM

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Feesherman 01-05-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 372023)
Tell you what I would be very polite the first time and the second time it wont be good for one of us. In our marsh if you sky bust I will come meet you one time and then thats it, we dont sky bust and for those who do thanks for teaching birds to flare a half a mile from the blind. Thats why alot of yall dont kill birds in a area and a 1/4 of a mile is not close guys sorry


I'll tell you what, YOU will not dictate how I hunt on MY lease!! YOU WILL NOT!!!

Dink 01-05-2012 07:10 PM

We have 2 blinds about 500ft from eachother. Never a problem.

longcast 01-05-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 372174)
If I am part of it I WILL

Let's get ready to rumble. Lol. Jk guys. Hey I will follow anyone's rules if they want to take me hunting.

huntin fool 01-05-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 372174)
If I am part of it I WILL

Exactly.

all star rod 01-05-2012 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 372170)
We have 2 blinds about 500ft from eachother. Never a problem.

does not matter if you never shoot any ducks...
l m a o

meaux fishing 01-05-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by longcast (Post 372176)
Let's get ready to rumble. Lol. Jk guys. Hey I will follow anyone's rules if they want to take me hunting.

X2. I usually let the guy who's blind it is call the shot because everybody's birds work differently and you know how the birds are gonna work in your field

mcjaredsandwich 01-05-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by longcast (Post 372114)
At least on the lake I can move. I don't think you can just up and move a blind. Or I can just toss Jared out the boat. Lol.

Why you gonna toss me out the boat? I understand watching somone else catch more fish on your boat is frustrating, but you aint gotta throw me overboard!! ;)

PaulMyers 01-05-2012 08:22 PM

I think both sides have been represented.

This thread is now closed.

+1


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