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"W" 04-08-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 678830)
nm looked it up myself... 399-419 dollars a rod! and you comparing them to a 120-140 duce rod! don't make any sense to me.... I stated that for the PRICE the duce rod is the best rod ive used!

Exactly


He picks out a $500 rod and compares to a $150 one

Lmao


I only have one Duce and slung in 6+ lb redfish before..

And what is the break % on Shamino rods because they are brought back more than any rod I ever seen in my life

BIG RED 1983 04-08-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 678832)
As I said before I don't understand how ppl are breaking these duce rods! I fish 2-3 times a week and these rods get NO special treatment. I have caught a lot of bigger redfish from a kayak with the ML rod and had it bent 180 degrees never broke. I have had one problem with them and it didn't break just the grip was twisting a lil bit.. .got it swapped out no questions asked.

are you using s series or x series duce rods

Hitinitdaily 04-08-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by specknation (Post 678831)
Regardless of price who wants to buy a rod that breaks at a high rate, and two that you can't get any warranty work. Your buddy stated that high end rods break easy, that is simply not true anymore.

People who are breaking those rods typically don't know how to fish a lighter rod. You don't flip heavy fish into a boat with a ML. Almost all rods that break are misused or crushed in an accident. I have personally caught fish up to 25lbs on my ML DUCE with ease. There is NOTHING wrong with the blanks, the problem was Duce not having the funds and customer service to replace the rods that had issues. NOW THAT WILL CHANGE.. Don't see any more of a reason to continue this convo.

You don't like the rod stop wasting your time to hate on it. Go buy your $400 rods and leave the people who are happy with the product alone.

specknation 04-08-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitinitdaily (Post 678841)
People who are breaking those rods typically don't know how to fish a lighter rod. You don't flip heavy fish into a boat with a ML. Almost all rods that break are misused or crushed in an accident. I have personally caught fish up to 25lbs on my ML DUCE with ease. There is NOTHING wrong with the blanks, the problem was Duce not having the funds and customer service to replace the rods that had issues. NOW THAT WILL CHANGE.. Don't see any more of a reason to continue this convo.

You don't like the rod stop wasting your time to hate on it. Go buy your $400 rods and leave the people who are happy with the product alone.

So its Ok for you to say quote "Duce not having the funds and customer service to replace rods" seems like a double standard to me.

specknation 04-08-2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 678838)
Exactly


He picks out a $500 rod and compares to a $150 one

Lmao


I only have one Duce and slung in 6+ lb redfish before..

And what is the break % on Shamino rods because they are brought back more than any rod I ever seen in my life

Never heard of Shamino rods I think you meant Shimano, anyway I know why you are becoming a DUCE fan new guy promised you some free ones. I am not comparing the DUCE rods to any other rods, I just get kick out of how Loyal you west guys are to the DUCE rods. I don't think you would have the same LOVE if there where made in Slidell. LOL

BassYakR 04-08-2014 11:43 AM

Truth comes out! They are made over here so that's why he cant support them! Case closed... lock thread!

Hitinitdaily 04-08-2014 11:43 AM

I support Louisiana products!


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"W" 04-08-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by specknation (Post 678849)
Never heard of Shamino rods I think you meant Shimano, anyway I know why you are becoming a DUCE fan new guy promised you some free ones. I am not comparing the DUCE rods to any other rods, I just get kick out of how Loyal you west guys are to the DUCE rods. I don't think you would have the same LOVE if there where made in Slidell. LOL

Wrong again.... I use Waterloo and have about 13 of them and have zero reason to stop using them

I have broke my rods before, no big deal!!

specknation 04-08-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 678850)
Truth comes out! They are made over here so that's why he cant support them! Case closed... lock thread!

LOL you really think that DUCE rods where made in the West side of the great state of Louisiana. Come Anthony settle this for us Please. LMAO

BassYakR 04-08-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by specknation (Post 678854)
LOL you really think that DUCE rods where made in the West side of the great state of Louisiana. Come Anthony settle this for us Please. LMAO

Your last post completely contradicts this statement!

"W" 04-08-2014 11:49 AM

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Specknation since your an expert on what is good

Tell us which one catches more fish

Vudu Skrimps or H2O Skrimps


What is the difference in these two baits?

cgoods17 04-08-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by specknation (Post 678843)
So its Ok for you to say quote "Duce not having the funds and customer service to replace rods" seems like a double standard to me.

I think he said "the problem WAS......"


c'mon dude, got somewhere else with all that ish.

specknation 04-08-2014 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 678857)
Specknation since your an expert on what is good

Tell us which one catches more fish

Vudu Skrimps or H2O Skrimps


What is the difference in these two baits?

I don't use fake shrimp baits like you W or popping corks like you, so I cannot comment on the fake shrimp baits.

bayouchub 04-08-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitinitdaily (Post 678851)
I support Louisiana products!


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Louisiana products? Im sure you are not implying that duce rods are made in Louisiana.

"W" 04-08-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by specknation (Post 678861)
I don't use fake shrimp baits like you W or popping corks like you, so I cannot comment on the fake shrimp baits.

You don't catch big trout like us here in the west so you can't comment of big fish breaking rods

Case solved!!

specknation 04-08-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 678864)
You don't catch big trout like us here in the west so you can't comment of big fish breaking rods

Case solved!!

LOL, I just read a post from another thread you where saying Big Pond (lake) is doomed with the oyster dredging and the weir operation. You already come to east side to make your money. Please don't start coming over here to fish, the east side don't want ya. LMAO

Hitinitdaily 04-08-2014 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 678862)
Louisiana products? Im sure you are not implying that duce rods are made in Louisiana.

Louisiana Companies.. Sorry for the choice of words Bayouchub. Man, y'all got too much spare time on your hands that is spend towards negative energy.

The rod is made in Houston now but sold from a Louisiana Based company. Comon guys, grow up!


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BuckingFastard 04-08-2014 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 678853)
Wrong again.... I use Waterloo and have about 13 of them and have zero reason to stop using them

I have broke my rods before, no big deal!!

have any spares since i just broke mine!:smokin:

"W" 04-08-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by specknation (Post 678868)
LOL, I just read a post from another thread you where saying Big Pond (lake) is doomed with the oyster dredging and the weir operation. You already come to east side to make your money. Please don't start coming over here to fish, the east side don't want ya. LMAO

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BuckingFastard 04-08-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 678911)
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i think i just peed a little.... classic!!:work:

fishinpox 04-08-2014 02:04 PM

I don't own any Duce rods ... But I do know when a company is sold / bought/ sold etc its either because the original grew the company and sells for a profit meaning the company grew so most likely it handled business with customers / warrantys etc. OR it sucked azz and was sold for cheap in hopes of re vamping the business into a successful business. Well I can remember a time where there was threads voicing concern on Duce quality/ warranty multiple times . These threads usually went w/o response from the owners . I know my business is much like other businesses , we rely on awesome referrals for a loyal customer base, so if a customer ever voices concern toward quality, or anything for that matter I bend over backwards to remedy the situation immediately . I like seeing young guys do good in business so I hope with the new owners / partners these issues will be corrected , unfortunately until I hear a solution / game plan from the company on how the issues have been resolved I won't be buying a Duce rod.

bayouchub 04-08-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 678911)
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L O L

specknation 04-08-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 678911)
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Nice

K W 04-08-2014 03:37 PM

On la gov website - for whomever wants to know owners
Officer - Member - Matt doucet
Officer - Manager - Cade eskridge



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southern151 04-08-2014 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 678918)
I don't own any Duce rods ... But I do know when a company is sold / bought/ sold etc its either because the original grew the company and sells for a profit meaning the company grew so most likely it handled business with customers / warrantys etc. OR it sucked azz and was sold for cheap in hopes of re vamping the business into a successful business. Well I can remember a time where there was threads voicing concern on Duce quality/ warranty multiple times . These threads usually went w/o response from the owners . I know my business is much like other businesses , we rely on awesome referrals for a loyal customer base, so if a customer ever voices concern toward quality, or anything for that matter I bend over backwards to remedy the situation immediately . I like seeing young guys do good in business so I hope with the new owners / partners these issues will be corrected , unfortunately until I hear a solution / game plan from the company on how the issues have been resolved I won't be buying a Duce rod.

Well said! I wish these guys all the best in the future. Whatever problems they may have had, I hope they work out and, things with Duce get back on track, regardless of who owns the company.

I hate to see failure of any sort in any business. My companies have been on their heels before (not due to poor craftsmanship) and, it's not fun being in that situation. Most small companies have mortgaged dang near everything they owned to make it work! Best wishes to all of the owners!

Ratdog 04-08-2014 09:23 PM

At da risk of getting junk mail.
Please would some one let me know if I can still go to da new location for Duce rods over on 49 south of Lafayette were it ant 49 yet.
If no one is there were cand I go to get a new un used Duce twisted rod.
I read 50 posts on this thread ...a lot for me to digested. And from wated I made out Duce is still around.
I got no sperance wit dem rods but they seem low cost and are custom rodes put together here in the Lafayette area .i got no chicken in dis boxing match .i jus want a rod from a place so close to home.
I don't care if it is made from lower end blankets and so on its just the ideer it comes from here.
I could and will get a higher cost rod soon enough but I believed in a rod for every situation.

Now for food for the frenzy a twisted rod wit a conventional reel might be cool on the retrieve. But only if I can get one with med Hevesy action.

I would also like a decal for the said rod that says what I want it to say. Which I think would be cool to get from a local rod shop.

Now as far as poorticular typs of rods I like da wall marts custom rods and am sold on penn,egeal claws,and I don't know if avet makes a rod but I would get one if they did.

So why is it so bad. And are they still in business or did they go out and are starting over.

If its all screwed up and I can't get one is there a nother custom rod shop putting out in the Lafayette area?

Please pm me info on any of my questions you can.

Ratdog waiting on the pacquet Easter parade .
I support Louisiana made products even if they taste bad look bad smell bad and pacquet bad too.

Ratdog 04-08-2014 09:33 PM

Oh ya rods are like sunglasses for me. I use up in da sun and loose um when it's dark. And when I sit on um they brake. An when day brake I suffer till I get a new pare.

They come in different styles an some make me look good but when I get pissed I throw um which causes them to shatter. But if I like um they last longer than others. But if I don't they sit around till some one comes along that ant got nun an I give um up.

So a rod equil to the price of good glass is not that big a deal and if you plan on giving your glasses......wait I mean your rod to your grand kids just remember they are Gunna be out of style like last years reeboks .

Really guys if I was from another state becouse of what's here I think I would pass up Duce. And that is something to be ashamed of.

Support the local business and think water off the back of a pair of sun glasses.

I just rebooked my rod so now I need a new pare of glasses.

I'm so ashamed.

BuckingFastard 04-09-2014 06:08 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

Goooh 04-09-2014 06:13 AM

Rofl, that's a good belly laugh to start the day

BuckingFastard 04-09-2014 06:15 AM

haha yea i watched it several times this morning

Matt G 04-09-2014 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 679149)


Depends on how you cook them.

YellowMouth7 04-09-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by paublo25 (Post 678354)
Duce is on a return, I have a buddy that I fish with who told me and I have seen first hand their new rods(some new changes). There is a new backer hell bent on bringing this company back. Send me your info and I'll pass on the info and hopefully they can work something out. I don't want to pass out any info right now bc I know they want to get all their ducks in a row before they take off again.


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Got my hands on one of the 1st 3 of them and they rock!!!!!!!!!!

I also have 2 of the older version and there are lots of new features on the new Duce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They will go like hot cakes!!!!!!!

TB

BassYakR 04-09-2014 01:44 PM

cant wait to get my hands on a couple! I like the cork split grip... looks sweet

YellowMouth7 04-09-2014 02:02 PM

As part of the "NEW DUCE" Research and Development team along with HITTINITDAILY I back the rods 100%. Specknation stated that HITTINITDAILY's info was from someone who was not involved with the company.....not so.......we test, we fish, we approve.........anddddddddddddddddd

Specknation all I can say is i hope that you have an oportunity to fish the new Duce and see why we believe

:-)

BuckingFastard 04-09-2014 02:16 PM

cant see with your eyes closed

YellowMouth7 04-09-2014 03:03 PM

touche

specknation 04-09-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by YellowMouth7 (Post 679322)
As part of the "NEW DUCE" Research and Development team along with HITTINITDAILY I back the rods 100%. Specknation stated that HITTINITDAILY's info was from someone who was not involved with the company.....not so.......we test, we fish, we approve.........anddddddddddddddddd

Specknation all I can say is i hope that you have an oportunity to fish the new Duce and see why we believe

:-)

Go back and look I didn't say anything close to that wrong person. LOL

YellowMouth7 04-09-2014 03:41 PM

just assumed i guess cuz of all the other stupid stuff you said

specknation 04-09-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by YellowMouth7 (Post 679352)
just assumed i guess cuz of all the other stupid stuff you said

You just assumed LOL

YellowMouth7 04-09-2014 03:58 PM

put the A.S.S in for you

specknation 04-09-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by YellowMouth7 (Post 679356)
put the A.S.S in for you

Stay classy man good job

Ratdog 04-10-2014 02:10 AM

Will web page be up soon?

grizzon30s 04-10-2014 07:45 PM

I haven't read all the back and forth on this thread so forgive me if I missed something. Here's my take. Duce makes good stuff, at least I like it. Seems a lot of people like there stuff also. Product quality can be debated but the lack of customer service can't. That's where they fell down. Period. Sure they took care of some folks when they happened to be there to answer a phone call. But most people's phone calls simply went unanswered. I talked at length with one of their major retail outlet owners. The thought was that the they were too busy out fishing and buying big toys to effectively run a business. Now I can't hate on anyone for fishing too much! But before I buy more of their products I'd like to see a bigger commitment to the brand. If the owners want to fish all day then they should have folks managing operations to allow them to do so.
I really like the rods I own from them. But, I will not spend that kind of money on a rod again without knowing for sure the company behind it will stand behind their product. The competition at that price point is fierce and there are lots of good choices. I'd like to support local but will not do so at the risk of my pocketbook in the future.

Ratdog 04-10-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by grizzon30s (Post 679832)
I haven't read all the back and forth on this thread so forgive me if I missed something. Here's my take. Duce makes good stuff, at least I like it. Seems a lot of people like there stuff also. Product quality can be debated but the lack of customer service can't. That's where they fell down. Period. Sure they took care of some folks when they happened to be there to answer a phone call. But most people's phone calls simply went unanswered. I talked at length with one of their major retail outlet owners. The thought was that the they were too busy out fishing and buying big toys to effectively run a business. Now I can't hate on anyone for fishing too much! But before I buy more of their products I'd like to see a bigger commitment to the brand. If the owners want to fish all day then they should have folks managing operations to allow them to do so.
I really like the rods I own from them. But, I will not spend that kind of money on a rod again without knowing for sure the company behind it will stand behind their product. The competition at that price point is fierce and there are lots of good choices. I'd like to support local but will not do so at the risk of my pocketbook in the future.

I live close to them. I might buy if I can get true answers. U like um. I don't own yet. But what u say puts um down. Do I trust u? Looks like people have a problem with slow growth. Are you all so used to big store high dollar ideas that a guy can't go fishing. Or have a issue. Man let's screw wallmarrt not the local guy. Give a shadow of a dought not a condemnation.

I still need a PM to know we're to get one.

Ratdog 04-10-2014 11:15 PM

Guys is Duce rods really so bad that y'all have to berate the componay a local Louisiana home grown so bad that it limits them in the public view?

I for one do not listen to ho hum BSFrom boards and will buy a pole soon as I get a PM to we're to buy. But if I were from oh let's say another state looking at this as it comes up on a search on any engine I might be or I would be turned off.
It suckers to see a world wide pissing contest about a co. We all will be held by shot down like this.

I am in no way saying you have no right but if you got a problem with them take it up with them don't end there business becouse you broke a pole. Ya I broke a lot of poles but I did not go after the co. That made them.


We're is your pride in local grown stuff. I guess I'm pissed as I was about pottery. Nothing good there either. Just old guys with the wrong idea.

Support local don't put it down no matter the problem as it can be worked out if you want it to .

But if you dont then I guess it's more a communist idea.

BuckingFastard 04-11-2014 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ratdog (Post 679969)
Guys is Duce rods really so bad that y'all have to berate the componay a local Louisiana home grown so bad that it limits them in the public view?

I for one do not listen to ho hum BSFrom boards and will buy a pole soon as I get a PM to we're to buy. But if I were from oh let's say another state looking at this as it comes up on a search on any engine I might be or I would be turned off.
It suckers to see a world wide pissing contest about a co. We all will be held by shot down like this.

I am in no way saying you have no right but if you got a problem with them take it up with them don't end there business becouse you broke a pole. Ya I broke a lot of poles but I did not go after the co. That made them.


We're is your pride in local grown stuff. I guess I'm pissed as I was about pottery. Nothing good there either. Just old guys with the wrong idea.

Support local don't put it down no matter the problem as it can be worked out if you want it to .

But if you dont then I guess it's more a communist idea.

the rods were great, worked great, felt great. also not made in china, but local. they were a small company that just bit off more than they could chew with their success. it happens... hopefully they will have good backing this time.... but regardless i will get a few ASAP, since the rod is great anyway. youll always find the guy who wants to walk around with saltlife stickers bragging about his $500 rod and his $70k boat that cant catch fish and has nothing but bad to say because its not enough to brag for. ;)

bayouchub 04-11-2014 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 679997)
the rods were great, worked great, felt great. also not made in china, but local. they were a small company that just bit off more than they could chew with their success. it happens... hopefully they will have good backing this time.... but regardless i will get a few ASAP, since the rod is great anyway. youll always find the guy who wants to walk around with saltlife stickers bragging about his $500 rod and his $70k boat that cant catch fish and has nothing but bad to say because its not enough to brag for. ;)

I didnt think the old duce rods were made locally?

BuckingFastard 04-11-2014 08:12 AM

Made in houston and sold locally by Louisiana folk if you read back on this thread.


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BuckingFastard 04-11-2014 08:32 AM

thats what i was told anyway

bayouchub 04-11-2014 08:32 AM

The new models are made in houston if u read back in this thread.


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