Any one play or now anything about baseball?? You don't even have a blink of in eye from the time the ball leaves the pichers hand to decide to swing or not, cops have less then that time to decide weather to shoot or not!!! If he did nothing wrong why was he fighting?? Understand people can turn there lives around and maybe that's what he was trying to do. But you don't fight with cops!!!

I think these are more in line with post of the day. I think I'd rather take the ride downtown behind a police car than a hurst.

If you really "know your rights" you'd take a police brutality case to court over your family bringing a wrongful death suit to court on your behalf. But what do I know? I'm just a sheep. :rolleyes:

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Hell I'm still trying to figure out this whole "selling CDs" business... Who still buys CDs? Let alone in a Podunk store parking lot late at night? I'm curious if all these rappers whose CDs he was bootlegging will come out in support of him?

You won't. Cop throws the lights on for no reason. I didn't break a law so screw him just keep driving or speed up. Before long there is a team of them with spike strips and a chopper. Not saying it's right but that's how it is.

Our family has a few occasions where we succeeded. Not on the internet though. Next time we're fishing ...

No joke a while back I was pumping gas and a guy walked up with a backpack and said"yo wa buy some cd?" That's not a typo. I looked at him and asked what he said. The second version resembled english enough for me to understand.

Roger that brother. Be safe my friend. God Bless you and your family. Your friend J :)

Good luck with the helicopters, now days.

One fact is clear if the man would have not fought the cop let a lone two, he would still be alive, and telling his story!! An get a call of a man waving a gun.

Funny he's selling CD's all night long in Austin and Nashville they hand them out for free like hokers cards in vagas !!! Not buying that.

Couple of thoughts
 

*Ya think either of these cops have seen news stories of their police brethren being assassinated.
*Protesters have been saying "shoot the pigs" & "fry em like bacon", now they're worked up again about a cop shooting.
Just saying people's actions lately probably have not helped. Fear and adrenalin might just cause bad decisions.

Everyone is saying how is was a man with a violent past, but he was a good guy and trying to turn his life around. Okay I get that people change, but why if he was on such a positive path, was he in violation of the law at the time of the tragic incident. Breaking the law doesn't seem like a prominent path to a better future to me? He was in violation of the law not only by resisting arrest, but also by being in possession of a fire arm, a illegal fire arm at that. In the state of LA a person who has been convicted of a felon crime while in possession of a fire arm and controlled substance, no longer has the right to bear arms. The minimum sentencing for a convicted felon breaking this law is 10 years, so he was on the way back to the pin if he wouldn't of been shot. Im not saying if the shooting was justifiable or not that is up to criminal justice professionals. This shouldn't be a shock to the media that this day in age a criminal with a violent wrap sheet, who is dis agreeing to comply with law enforcement, while in possession of a firearm gets shot.

Dallas
 

Sounds like 2 cops have been shot in Dallas now.

It's getting closer. Y'all ready?

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Wish they would all watch what this guy has to say.....

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I don't think that link works. Look on his fb page and watch the second video down. He talks about the Alton Sterling situation and speaks the truth about what is really going on. I wish his message would get across to all these narrow minded so called victims of racism. https://m.facebook.com/johnathangentrydotcom/

Just read that, not much being released ?? Man/woman gets shot in the line of duty, and there's nothing about it yet ??
Bet it gets 20-30 sec. On the morning shows tomorrow.

10 cops shot 3 dead

It's all over fox news

Now, I live 2 hours south of there and still no breaking news on the 3 channels we get .. seen when Fox news picked it up cause had been checking

Sad sad day. Just pry or whatever you do for there families

Question
was it OK for Seth fontent to kill 1 of the 3 white guys that where driving away in the truck?
And only be a year in jail ?

You take from me you get killed driving away or not.
Kind of the same concept you all are using. In this situation
You fight 2 coo eliminate the threat

Let's see how you all comments on this.
Probably won't be 13 pages like this one. Lol




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Driving away... No immediate threat.... reaching for a gun they know you have while resisitng arrest... Justified shooting IMO

I'll do like you and use a strawman argument...... So because you believe a white officer unjustly killed an armed black man, it was ok for the terrorist to retaliate and kill 5 armed officers in Dallas?

See how ridiculous that argument sounds? The outcome of the Seth Fontenot case is irrelevant to the Alton Sterling shooting and should not be used to attack an opposing position. I think you are letting your emotions control your argument, and what did you state earlier about a cop working off of his emotions?

I never said any of what you stating I said in first paragraph. I just asked a question. I really don't care what happen to him really that doesn't change anything where myself and my families is headed in life. I'm just asking question. Lol

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From my experience gun point down or in pocket is a not and immediate threat

Gun in hand starting to move up towards my direction is immediate threat. Based on training

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So have you not been arguing that the cops were wrong in shooting the guy?

[quote=seachaser250;800490]Who doesn't argue with the cops are put up some resistance. Just a little.

FYI. By no means an I serious in any of this or taking this personal. I'm just commenting like you guys


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A gun in the pocket of a known criminal that has already pointed it at others... is an immediate threat in my book... IDC if hes white, black, asian or mexican... At the end of the day.. Id rather officers like yourself go home to your families... That man put himself in that position. No one else

You missed my point. This entire thread you have been saying that the cops were wrong in shooting the guy.

So you're saying that if you receive a call to a scene with an irrate man pointing a gun around, get into a physical wrestling match with him, his hands get squirrely and you're gonna just let him keep on with it and hope he doesn't get to it??? So it'll go like this??? "hey man lets just wrestle around and play in the mud, if you end up getting to your gun then I'll try to get to mine! Fair for you? Cool, on your mark, get set, Go!"

Hell, even during old fashioned duels they drew at the same time! But in modern America the convicted Felon possessing a firearm has the right all the way until its pointed at the officer???? End up dead real quick like that. I'll sit before the judge on a stool before I lay before my family in a casket.

I know you don't believe what I stated in the first paragraph. I've never met you in person, but I can tell that you are an upstanding person and I have the utmost respect for what you do. I was using that to point out the fallacy in your logic. The questions concerning Seth Fontenot was a strawman argument. You present this irrelevant instance to attack the original opposing position.

Its all good fellas. As stated before I really don't care what happens. I'm moving forward everyone has an opinion that understood. The judge will determine what happen and we will be fishing drinking making money punishing honey living life. Lol

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One thing is for sure

He won't do it again

I just understand how all these people can protest and say how all cops just want to kill black people, I guarantee none of them are lining up at the police station to apply to be a policeman. If they the really wanted to make a difference in this country, instead of just talking sh** put your life on the line.

Actually, instead probation they should make them serve 6 months on the streets Chicago as a policeman, then maybe they would understand why the police are quick to shoot.

If he's gun in hand I hope you already have your front sight center of his chest. I'm not waiting for the fight to start before I get ready.

I tell you one thing, weather I would be a cop or just an armed citizen, if I'm ever in a situation where I know someone has a gun and is being very aggressive toward me or my family, I damn sure would not wait until they have a gun pointed at me or even wait until their gun is being raised in my direction, the second you reach for that gun I'm shooting your ***! Like someone stated before, I'd rather face a judge than be in a casket.

MY .02

So you know that guy on the left? You know for sure he is still alive? Or, is he one of the dead white guys that the cops have shot? You do know that cops have shot nearly double the amount of whites as they have blacks right?

Except those are both still photos so they don't tell the entire story. Keep the change.

Thanks for playing though.

Do your research on the internet...instead of playing....both situation start out with a "Man with a Gun" call.. totally different ending.

The law is very clear on the use of deadly force. Its the perceived threat an officer feels, Where it gets into a gray area is that a threat to one person is different from another. That along with evidence determines the outcome. Not race or his prior arrest record. But if the officer knew his record or past behavior, that could play into the perceived threat. So lets say the officer knew the guy had a gun the threat is higher already. If he didn't know this guy had a gun the threat level is lower. The evidence will be there at the end of the day. Don't jump too quick on the evidence the media presents us.

Who's playing?? I'm not the one using a meme.

Did you watch the video on that thing called the internet where one guy continues to struggle and fight with the cops? There is no context or backstory related to the picture on the left side of your meme. So it really doesn't help to prove your point. I would agree that the point you're trying to prove is probably worth about 2 cents.

Cop just shot in St. Louis. Guess he allowed the suspect time to point first. What a joke.

Gotta love that "training"

The guy on the left (alive or not) should not have his hand on his weapon.

I'm a man with a gun. Stood side by side with a state trooper once while we both made our fountain coke. He looked at my gun and said nice 1911, not many people carry those anymore.I said thanks Then we went about our way because I didn't act like an idiot and give him a reason to mess with me.

1911 only way to go!! Power to kill or just slap someone with!!

I've been close enough with some level headed LEOs to hear how they distinguish between honest citizens carrying and criminals. Criminals nearly never have real holsters and higher end firearms. Honest citizens nearly always have decent grade firearms and holsters (and firearm never leaves the holster.)

Even the LEOs who gave family members a hard time usually compliment our choice of arms (Kimber 1911s and Sig P229s/P239s) and holsters.

Am i the onlyone that finds it strange that the media never said a man (of any color was killing white cops) but they fast to say a white cop killed a man of (any color)!!!
Let me guess it was not his fault it was the guns fault!!!
I am not saying the two shootings of the (men of any color) were or were not just!!! But what happened in Dallas lastnight was murder any how you look at it!!!

I did think the Mayer and chIef of Dallas did a good job this morning at the press talk.