About $70 rigged out

This is what im going to power it with....

i've ran mercs for years with no problems

a 2 1/4 opti will make that F150 feel like a dog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwJB4D0Sl7k

[QUOTE=LaAngler;26064] he will be crying after he gets caught un a thunder bommer and doest make it in in time or when he puts 3 or 4 people and gear in it. Oh well thats him:*****:

He will be crying when that storm is coming and that MERC will not start. I think when you buy a MERC it automatically comes with one year free of SEATOW and a marine radio...:*****::*****:Also, going an extra 5-7 mph faster will save you what 2-3 minutes over a 10 miles stretch.

NOW THAT FUNNY RIGHT THERE:*****::*****::*****::*****:..... 25hp Merc I will take all day....but when it comes to big motor.....Yammahammer :D

i had a fairly late model 25 merc i thought it sucked

225 HPDI would be nice too

Really if I ever owned a MERC it would be an Optimax. I just think Yamaha is a better motor. Most guides and people that run crab traps have Yamaha 4 strokes. This should tell you something since they are on the water basically every day. The 4 stroke Yamaha 150 is a lot more powerful/work horse motor than you would think and it is very, very quiet!

U right ever since they got awawy from the chrome cylinder wall they went to briggs and stration throwaways

game wardens run a merc something...dont know wether it was hpdi or optimax..QUIET! i couldn't hear it at all while they chewed us out..didn't even know it was running til he threw it in reverse while a wave came...

had yellow stripes..quiet...fast...

Meeshigun

I ride in boats daily and trust me,you dont want a 150 fourstroke on a 22 foot boat.Get yourself a 225 opti or hpdi and you will be much more happy.

W did you ever find out what that 21' Haynie runs with a 150 4 stroke & 225 Opti ready to fish....just wondering what the price range is.

I have a 19' Cobia bay boat with a 150 Yahama 4 stroke. It runs 50 mph wide open with me and the wife, full of gas, eats and drinks, and about 43 mph loaded with me and Jfranovich(BIG ole country boy), 3 full ice chests, and supplies for an all day fishing trip.
I run about 35 mph at 4500 rpms fully loaded. She gets on top step o.k., but not like my old boat with a 2 cycle Mercury.
But my fuel economy is pretty great compared to my old 2 cycle Mercury.
I can talk to anyone fishing with me when running at any speed. The Yamaha is a super quiet motor.
My boat doesn't have rolled sides, she has the liner. She weighs 1960 lbs. dry, without engine.
I got her because it was one of the few boats that would fit in my car port and it had a 60 gal. gas tank.
I don't know now well a 150 would push a 22 ft'er, unless it is a light boat.

29,000 to 35,000

Plus taxes and registration?
I live in Lake Charles(9% tax) and it killed me when they added the taxes and registration. When I lived in Cameron, we only had a 4% tax.
My Cobia was $27K and it ended up being $30K after titling the trailer, registering the boat and fokking me with the 9% tax.

Thats just some base prices.....I havent got all the details yet but I may just get the Z21 with the 225 Opt,Jack Plate,Power pole,trolling motor and GPS....Im sure it will run high 30s lower 40s....

Thats what Im talking about. I might start fishing with you more:*****:

W was the 225 Opti more $ than the best outboard ever made: "4 stroke 150 Yamaha"?

I dont know that for sure.....We havnt talked about the Opti yet...... Im just going off prices other guys have paid with kind of what I want....he is calling me back after the 1st with all info.... This boat will run mid to high 30's with tax and equi....I getting mine loaded becasue I hope it last 10-15years....

Rule #1 when you buy a boat get everything you need at the time of purchase from the dealer.....For example, I bought a radio & he threw in the jack-plate....that kind of thing!

wonder what kind of buy 2 boats discount they would give

i think the same dealer has kenner also, be interesting to know how the performance of the haynie vs kenner is

Once I get to talk to him ...I will make my mind up on the Merc or yammy......Just need someone to talk me into going Merc...

You wont be disatisfied with the optima Im telling you. Ill even work on it for you but you wont have to worry about that if you take care of it.

that's one of the nice things about getting a used rig! :)

Optimax
 

I run an Optimax and the rest of our lodge runs them. I was gonna buy a Blackjack but will probably go with a Haynie 24 and just sell it every year to buy a new one. Gonna put a 225 Pro XS on the back of it. We have 2 Haynie's right now and we'll probably be running at least 4 next year. Sweet riding boats. Chris is a good guy to deal with. He helps you out any way that he can.

BD

How does a Haynie compare to the Blackjack 22' model

I thought the same thing but, it is actually Mississippi.

MS is the abbreviation for Mississippi.....

Here is Merc's info.....
Mercury Racing
N7480 County Road UU
Fond du Lac, WI 54935
Phone: 920-921-5330
FAX: 920-921-6533




Mercury Marine
W6250 W. Pioneer Road
P.O.Box 1939
Fond du Lac, WI 54936-1939

They are out of Wisconsin.....

Not on Boats, brother lives in Greenville Ms and all of the boats at the yatch club have MI on them. Don't worry it won't be the first time you have been wrong.

I dropped kenner 2 years ago tracker marine just dont build them like bill kenner did to many warranty issues and a pain in the a-- to deal with we only sell Haynie and will make you a deal on 2 for sure

"tracker marine just dont build them like bill kenner did"

You got that right......I'm ready for k2 marine to come out with the 24 ft frontier.

Comparison...
 

Well, for one the Blackjack is a boat with a cap. The Haynie's have wood whereas the Blackjack's do not. Now, Chris says that the wood is all glassed over, so, we'll see. The price is also a factor; about $8,000 difference. I personally like the Blackjack, but wish it was a 24'. If Bill Kenner makes a 24' Blackjack, you will see them all over the lake, as they will be a lifetime hull. I would be going from 24' to 22.5' fishing 3 people plus me everyday. Not sure how it will be. THe Haynie is 24' and just a little narrower than the BJ. Ultimately, 2 great boats with different pros and cons. It's all about preference.

BD

In my opinion, I would not get a boat with wood in it, even if it was glassed over, if I were keeping it for a long time. Sooner or later, water will rot the wood if you use it enough. I have seen a lot of boats at Olmsted Shipyard fixing soft decks and transoms from wood rot. Water seems to seep down screws used for seats and tops. There are ways to prevent this, if the boat builder builds it right. But I still would rather not take the chance. There are too many new coring products that can take the place of wood, but will not rot like wood.

Bill Kenner told me at the last boat show that a 24 blackjack and 24 frontier are in the works and should be out by 2010.

2010
 

Drost, we've been hearing about a 24 BJ and Frontier since he startted building them. Those will be some great boats. If I am not mistaken, and maybe I am, the Frontier has wood and the BJ does not. Most all non-capped boats will contain wood. Haynie's are SOLID built boats and so are Bill's boats. Either way, W or myself will have a good boat for years to come.

The wood we use is called boat panel you can not buy at lowes are home depot it comes with a 100 year warranty against rot,the composite on the other hand does have a lifetime warranty against rot and rot only but what happens when your motor falls of the back of your boat like more than 1 has done in the IFA tournament out of kema and texas redfish series. both were composite boats and i talked to one of the owners of one of the well known boat builders and he was told if he could use the boat panel like he did on most all of the boats he has built threw the years this would not have happened in my eyes the composite deal is a sales pitch.look at 2 year old composite boat that has been run in rough water you will see stress cracks every where and thats considered not warranty,some ofthe best selling boats come from texas and they all have wood and its for a reason <strength>

I keep a Chris Craft boat at Olmsted Shipyard in a boat shed there. I have seen a LOT of boats come in to get soft decks fixed due to rotten wood. I have to believe what I see, not what I hear.

good information here

Talked to Chris today....These boats are the real deal....They come loaded .... I think I'm sold on the Z21 w/225 Opti Max...Body Black....Hope this all goes like I have Planned.

Are you still getting the boat after Cora found out about you buying the site?

quiksilver baby, merc all the way

jet black helps you sneak up on the fish better, but if you want it to look good at 10 years old get solid white.

Those are some pretty light boats for a 21 ft'er. I bet it hauls @$$...

65mph!!!!:p

what size motor?

dubya is really gonna hop the waves now haha

HERE

Yup, it will cruise. Dubya gunna look like a kid in that big boat!!!! :*****::*****: jk dubya lol

Wood in a boat is not a bad thing at all if it's done right. My boston whaler is a 1970 model,and it has wood in it....still solid as a rock.I've never really heard of a haynie untill now,but it seems to be a well built boat from what I can see.

The boat will not be an issue.....I would be more worried about the Merc motor:puke: