sorry didnt see answer to post..thanks

The fishing is pretty good in Leeville. Hell maybe the best thing would be to take the wiers down, let the marsh change to salt, lose land, let Big Lake get bigger. Bigger lake, spreads the pressure out. There. Problem solved. Send this to Jindal.

Hahaha, good joke. Oh wait.....you were joking right? I wouldn't call myself an expert by any means, but I have done a lot of research on the subject, and since this thread, I've been doing alittle more in the direction of the affects of weirs as well. My stance on this argument is and will continue to be that we need those weirs. The evidence speaks for itself. When you step out into a marsh in this estuary with heavy organic matter in the soil, and all you see for miles is brackish and salt marsh vegetation, the system is not what it was. We may never see that marsh return to what it was, but then again, there is always hope......with proper management.

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Just FYI to "W". The weirs have slots always or near always open for free flow of fish, shrimp, etc. Also, the state will open the main gates strictly for the free flow of fish, shrimp, etc. for estuary health and you are too closed minded to see. They aren't the devil. They understand both the need to maintain/revive marsh and keep the estuary healthy.

So now shrimp crabs and fish can swim up a 3ft flow of water ???

Are they ever gonna put rocks from super cut south towards and thru washout. That should control the tide from the ship channel which in turn help stop erosion behind weirs.

The weirs are not just there to stop erosion. The weirs are there to control salinities in the marsh.

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Rocks on the channel would slow the inflow of salinity into the lake which in turn slow it into the marsh. When ship channel was first dug land was all the way down the channel besides old river(jetties) and weirs were not needed. First washout (got its name from washing out due to channel flow) disappeared then 9 mile to super cut. Just a thought

Super cut is just about gone,....next summer there will be no super cut...

its happening right before your eyes, erosion, saltwater intrusion, vegetation changes, what's next? One only needs to look further east to see this

No, weirs WERE needed and this change took time, once the weirs were placed in, the damage had already began.


Again, its not an overnight process, its slow, but not really in geological terms, a hundred years is the blink of an eye in geological terms. You are answering your own questions. The land begins to erode due to wave action, saltwater intrusion kills the vegetation that holds the land together, the land becomes mud, the erosion washes away the mud into the ship channel, gets dredged, repeat. When man interferes with hydrology, the water body tries to correct itself. Look at any pass out into the gulf, one side of the jetties will be shallow and the other side will be highly eroded, and you just keep adding rocks to reduce the problem but the problem will always be there. Rocks and dredging are a temporary fix to a permanent problem

I guess if you can get "UU" to support your rocks and prove that its not going to affect the fishery. But you'd better rock armor all the way up past turners because salt water is still going to get in the lake. You also have to get army corp of engineers on board with that. Good luck on that endeavor.

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Hydrology is not my specialty, but my understanding is that rocks prevent erosion from wave action rather than salt intrusion. If the tidal ranges of high and low are not significantly reduced by the rocks, they will do nothing to reduce salt intrusion, because salt intrusion is governed by the volume of flow in (with salty water) and out (with fresh water).

Well its not always such a drastic difference in water levels but it can work both ways. You need to quit being such a whining little man child about this. It's there for a reason and sorry to say its not targeted at ticking you off.

That was towards the most uninformed know-it-all aka W

Hey I'm telling facts here...you take a pic for me when the lake side is lower or same level as marsh with gates closed
Please be the 1st to provide us with that pic Mr. Sup up marsh guy

It's irrelevant what anyone thinks about how the weirs should he managed and whether fish slats work or not or how high the water is on one side versuses another. Science, sound scientific knowledge that anyone could see if they know anything of marsh vegetation and succession, drives how those weirs are managed. Face facts, the weirs are there to protect the marsh and by extrapolation the long term viability of the fishery. Provide me evidence that proves any of this wrong, and I will gladly admit that I am. SOUND evidence.

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:work::work: LMAO! that's worth some salty cash! :rotfl::rotfl:

X2


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Yep the crumb snatching Pilgrims are Mad

Jedi, Sportsman, Smalls, Merc, see below :rolleyes:

Very true Hydro. Literally words from the wise.

"Can't fix stupid"... Guy is a blowhard and legend in his own mind :shaking:...

I have a low tolerance for idiots....


Hydro

Thats one of my favorite sayings. And Hydro I agree 100%.


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Now we have 5 marsh scholars ...weehhhh getting full up maybe you all could get some advice from your blood brother

al gore approves the weirs

And we have 1 Waltrip.

1 too many

Lol


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"Dumb-Ya" ....

Its sad when I can lead a jackass to the water and make him drink ..carry on

Gore approves your message

And another for "Dumb-Ya"....

Oh snap! Lol!!

Looks to me like this thread has degraded to nothing more than a "who's insult is better match". Case closed on the weir discussion I assume? Haven't seen anything to the contrary, and no hard argument as to why the weirs are a bad thing, other than for short term fisheries which I do not buy.

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Also don't agree with that statement in this situation. It has pretty much been proven that waltrip cannot argue against any point I've made effectively.


And as far as you and your buddy Gore, Waltrip, that guy doesn't know a damn thing.
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Smalls, I apologize for the de-railment...

As I stated before, my tolerance for ignorance and poor behavior is low and many of the guys being insulted are those who I consider friends...

Signing off...


Hydro

sammich

I was really over this when I talked to there operations manager and he told me they will open them on twice a month on full./new moon...at minimum
This was plenty enough to make me happy


But I love taking my lil al gore people to my water hole and make them drink
Quit entertaining I find

That was the plan all along silly!

you won right?? :rotfl:

Ask your self this:

Self did W just become the winner of this thread ?

Self to you; Yes he did

Case close , why we have so many pelicans willbe the topic for next week

I don't fish west side and really don't know a lot about the weirs.
But this comment^^^ i do know about. In my 20+ years of fishing south of fourchon from the banks. I have seen many a canal go from 30 ft wide to 50 - 75 yds wide. Places that are open water now for 100s of acres are places i used to walk to my duck blind as a teenager. Many of the pits and ponds that i used to be able to walk around the banks and fish are nothing but open water. So if closing the weirs for 24 days a month saves some marsh then they should be closed. There are places that we fished when the SC members went to grand isle that i will not be able to fish in the next year or two as the land will be gone. I wish there would have been something like the weirs to help save the marsh around G.I.

Still number 1 in your own mind, both on and off the water! You might just be our saviour if you don't kill us all first. :rolleyes:

"w" stands for "W"inning

Suit yaself. If all the garbage had been left out of this thread, I see the outcome quite differently. Several times this thread died, and not because of comments you made Waltrip. Not once have you had a legitimate argument against what I have said. Say what you will about taking your *** to water and teaching it to drink (what you do in your spare time is not my business, although I bet that is a neat trick....however, I think we should keep it G for all the kiddies here), but I see this outcome quite differently.

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"W" stands for "Whaaaaaaaaa" :cry:...

Have a nice day guys, time for this "office fisherman" to go out and make a living :D....

Hydro

Hey now, I've been working all night. :eek:

This was a good discussion until a few fecesl holes had to chime in with there non "CENTS"

I will agree with you on that, it was civilized and constructive for a good while.

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How would it be any different? Now matter how much you proved him wrong in his mind "he's still Winning". Haven't you learned by now now matter how much you prove him Wrong he's right. Of only in his head is he right. Sorry if I offended or messed up yalls thread but the outcome as all the other many threads with him involved would've been the same. W winning.


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It's irrelevant, we were having a good back and forth for a while, then the thread goes all to hell and completely off the subject. You look back and thread was dead for nearly a week, and then someone started back up with all this crap. I don't care if Waltrip thinks he won or not, I made my points, points which on a few times stopped the thread all together cause no one could say anything or wanted to say anything. But all the childish little antics that degraded this to nothing more than a **** fight aggravate the hell out of me. If this weren't behind a computer and in a parking lot or something, someone would have probably got knocked out for buttin in with stupid crap like that.

I'm just sayin, I understand its a public forum, but I prescribe to the idea that if you aren't gonna contribute anything worthwhile, stay the **** out of it.

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