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mr crab 07-17-2014 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 707352)
You just made ZERO point

zERo

You can not justify what you support

It's simple let me break it down

Crabbers crab and profit money off public waters and pay state fees
oystermen Oyster and profit money off public waters and pay state fees
shrimpers Shrimp and profit money off public waters and pay state fees
Fisherman fish and profit money off public water and pay state fees

Nothing is different

If a Shrimper want to keep his limit he can
If a crabber wants to keep his limit he can
If a Oysterman wants to keep his limit he can
If a fisherman wants to keep his limit he can

It does not matter who is on your boat , you have to follow the state and federal creel limits per your vessel
Bottom line


You can not soundly justify your case on why a "guide " is any different from any other person making a living off public waters


And please explain how a person can take home more fish than the law allows

I'm ready to hear this one !!! Lmao
Actually it does matter who's on the boat. Any person aboard a commercial vessel must hold a commercial fishermans liscense. I used to be commercial bruh. In TX and LA

Reefman 07-17-2014 01:09 PM
GCCA stood for GULF Coast Conservation Assoc. When GCCA expanded to East and West coast states they dropped the GULF association to encompass all coastal states.......Same group, now just much larger.

"W" 07-17-2014 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mr crab (Post 707489)
Actually it does matter who's on the boat. Any person aboard a commercial vessel must hold a commercial fishermans liscense. I used to be commercial bruh. In TX and LA
So a shrimper who has his wife on board requires her to have a commercial licenses also?

Because I see a lot of women on those boats and kids

mr crab 07-17-2014 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 707401)
If not, then what is rex's obssesion with W? Did he just randomly pick someone to dislike? Rex and Slickfish should start their own club. I really don't understand why a persons sole purpose hear is just to talk sheet about someone else.
I don't really have a dog in the hunt here, but you are spot on. Rex and Slick NEVER post unless its to slam W. Its as stale as the "u mad bruh" resonse from W.....just worse cuz those 2 don't ever offer anything useful to the site.

keakar 07-17-2014 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 707491)
GCCA stood for GULF Coast Conservation Assoc. When GCCA expanded to East and West coast states they dropped the GULF association to encompass all coastal states.......Same group, now just much larger.
GCCA never "expanded" the disbanded, closed the doors, turned the lights out, job done for the purpose it was created, finished.

then OTHER people decided thee was a lot more work that needed to be done but wanted to do it nation wide but since GCCA was disbanded and the members had no interest in championing causes nationally they weren't interested in this idea so this NEW group, completely separate from GCCA started CCA and that's where it began.

its really simple to prove if CCA was GCCA by just posting the pictures and notices showing GCCA is the new CCA, but there are no pictures or anything because THESE ARE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE OR THE SAME ORGANIZATION PERIOD.

believe the lies if you want, but you are only deceiving yourself.

"W" 07-17-2014 03:42 PM
GCCA is not CCA

Bottom line

They founders of GCCA never worked under the name CCA

So it's not the same


They branched off the name GCCA like stated above

The prime example is like a company who goes bankrupt and a new group if owners come in and pick it up and old owners leave

They keep the CCA name


Founders never ever worked for CCA NEVER

"W" 07-17-2014 03:43 PM
Here this is for you CCA sheep
Name the head guy who pushed for the ban of Gill Nets for the GCCA

I'll wait !!


Raymond ? KMD??

Com on

Reefman 07-17-2014 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 707515)
Here this is for you CCA sheep
Name the head guy who pushed for the ban of Gill Nets for the GCCA

I'll wait !!


Raymond ? KMD??

Com on
Walter Frondren from TX?

"W" 07-17-2014 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 707516)
Walter Frondren from TX?
Correct and he never worked under the CCA

He was the one who lead the strike against gill nets and the GCCA under his direction are responsible for gill net removal

So the CCA sheep want to take credit for "gill net ban"

When the credit goes to one Man who lead the fight under a 100% volunteer program



Do you know how many people get a check each month as an employee of the "CCA " ? Non profit

Reefman 07-17-2014 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 707523)
Correct and he never worked under the CCA

He was the one who lead the strike against gill nets and the GCCA under his direction are responsible for gill net removal

So the CCA sheep want to take credit for "gill net ban"

When the credit goes to one Man who lead the fight under a 100% volunteer program



Do you know how many people get a check each month as an employee of the "CCA " ? Non profit
W, I respectfully disagree. Walter was active in CCA TX until his death. Although not one to take the spot light he had tremendous influence not only in TX but many other states starting up chapters of CCA.

In the beginning, there were no paid employees (here in LA). After several years of getting no where in the State Legislature, the LA assoc decided to hire a lobbyist. After that a state director was then hired. I haven't sat on the board for quite a few years, I don't know who gets paid now a days.

"W" 07-17-2014 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 707530)
W, I respectfully disagree. Walter was active in CCA TX until his death. Although not one to take the spot light he had tremendous influence not only in TX but many other states starting up chapters of CCA.

In the beginning, there were no paid employees (here in LA). After several years of getting no where in the State Legislature, the LA assoc decided to hire a lobbyist. After that a state director was then hired. I haven't sat on the board for quite a few years, I don't know who gets paid now a days.
Like I said he never "worked" "paid" by the CCA

I'm sure he took part in some activities but the GCCA was not ran like a political office seat when he took the fight to ban gill nets

How come CCA will not release there pay roll to the public ???

KDM 07-17-2014 05:11 PM
W and Kekar you both don't have a clue about what or who GCCA and CCA was or is. Walter Fondren and a group of men started GCCA and the name was changed to CCA to represent the entire United States instead of just the GULF coastal states. Period. End of that story. The EXACT same men and women continue to this day. (Fondren passed away) I was there on the state and national boards at the time. Tell us more about what you don't know. Keep smoking that crack boys!!!!!! Sit tight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

T-TOP 07-17-2014 05:21 PM
I think that cleared things up a bit....


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keakar 07-17-2014 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KDM (Post 707541)
W and Kekar you both don't have a clue about what or who GCCA and CCA was or is. Walter Fondren and a group of men started GCCA and the name was changed to CCA to represent the entire United States instead of just the GULF coastal states. Period. End of that story. The EXACT same men and women continue to this day. (Fondren passed away) I was there on the state and national boards at the time. Tell us more about what you don't know. Keep smoking that crack boys!!!!!! Sit tight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know you don't know what the heck you are talking about but that doesn't stop you.

you must be an Obama supporter the way you want to rewrite history

I was a GCCA member from day 1 until the very last day when it was DISBANDED and it ceased to exist so there are still some of us around that know the truth but go argue with yourself in the mirror if it makes you feel better.

I got a great idea, lets claim CCA won the gulf war for us too because they love taking credit for other peoples sacrifices

T-TOP 07-17-2014 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 707544)
I know you don't know what the heck you are talking about but that doesn't stop you.

you must be an Obama supporter the way you want to rewrite history

I was a GCCA member from day 1 until the very last day when it was DISBANDED and it ceased to exist so go argue with yourself in the mirror if it makes you feel better.

I got a great idea, lets claim CCA won the gulf war for us too because they love taking credit for other peoples sacrifices

You have 2 guys that sat on the board back in the day and you still arguing??? Reef man is no liar....


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KDM 07-17-2014 05:53 PM
Bra you gotta get off the crack!!!!! Sit tight!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"W" 07-17-2014 06:11 PM
Who sat on the board ???

So KDM

Tell me what CCA has done for big lake last 10 years ?

Please do not say nothing about reefs

"W" 07-17-2014 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KDM (Post 707541)
W and Kekar you both don't have a clue about what or who GCCA and CCA was or is. Walter Fondren and a group of men started GCCA and the name was changed to CCA to represent the entire United States instead of just the GULF coastal states. Period. End of that story. The EXACT same men and women continue to this day. (Fondren passed away) I was there on the state and national boards at the time. Tell us more about what you don't know. Keep smoking that crack boys!!!!!! Sit tight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Walter never served under the name CCA

never

I know 110% more about the issue 110%

And I know for a fact CCA was zero responsible for the GillNet ban

If you can prove it on here CCA was responsible for gill net ban I will never post again


I have all day !!! GCCA and CCA were two diffrent operation a


You need to refresh on your History ; how about ask some of the GCCA members here on the lake if it's the same

I bet you will find a surprise in your answers !!

noodle creek 07-17-2014 06:28 PM
Several people from SW LA who were members of GCCA and helped push for the gill net ban despise what CCA is today. I'm not getting into the argument because I don't want to throw out names of people here who are successful business owners.

Still waiting on a response to what CCA has done for our estuary in last 10-15 years....

Top Dawg 07-17-2014 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 707557)
Several people from SW LA who were members of GCCA and helped push for the gill net ban despise what CCA is today. I'm not getting into the argument because I don't want to throw out names of people here who are successful business owners.

Still waiting on a response to what CCA has done for our estuary in last 10-15 years....
Yep. I know ppl that started the gcca chapter here and will have nothing to do with CCA ever since it started.


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