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Salty 07-07-2009 08:06 PM

Curado
 
Fishinpox, my neighbor fished a CuradoE7 out of Lake Pontchartrain today. When he first told me...I thought it might be yours but it was mounted on an AllStar rod. I walked over to see what the rig looked like and it was unbelievable. The rod had mega rust on the reel seat but everything else looked good. The Curado's pawl and worm gear was coated with rust. Amazingly, the spool still turned so it probably hadn't been submerged very long. He's taking it apart to look at damage and see how much it will cost to restore it.

"W" 07-07-2009 08:26 PM

That's why I use them!!! Sink em for a month and just add line and roll!!!! I want some pics because I don't believe that there was rust on that reel!!

Ducktrickster 07-07-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 21637)
That's why I use them!!! Sink em for a month and just add line and roll!!!! I want some pics because I don't believe that there was rust on that reel!!

I'd like to see them too. I didn't think that rust could form underwater.:confused:

Salty 07-07-2009 08:45 PM

Pics? Y'all think I'm BS'n? If I had a camera worth a crap I'd send ya a pic of the Curado I left in my pool for a week back in December. Remember that one....W? :cool:

Deadly D 07-07-2009 08:48 PM

I was reading a post on a shimano site that said they was going to stop making the e series because of corrosion problems with them:cry::cry:

Salty 07-07-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 21638)
I'd like to see them too. I didn't think that rust could form underwater.:confused:


Ducky, I'm no chemist but I disagree. If the object is a high-grade stainless steel...then maybe not. If it's not a high-grade stainless then the water must be free of dissolved oxygen. Drop a galvanized nail in a metal buck filled with water. The nail and the bucket bottom will rust..."underwater".

Salty 07-07-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 21644)
I was reading a post on a shimano site that said they was going to stop making the e series because of corrosion problems with them:cry::cry:




Wait just a damn minute, D...you're confusin' me. Is rust and corrosion the same thing? :rolleyes:

slip knot 07-07-2009 09:39 PM

Salty; corrosion=rust=corrosion all the same thing. Got a good friend that works for an oilfield loggin company and he gave me some badA** nickle monel cable. they use it H2S wells i think. but it dont rust at all in salt water. if you can find some its good stuff. I've had it on my anchor for @3yrs and the only problem i've had was the "stainless" clamps corroded /rusted off. SK

"W" 07-07-2009 09:55 PM

I dropped one of mine twice in the saltwater and I never clean my reels .....not one time have I had trouble with any of them!!! Shimano don't make junk reels

fishinpox 07-07-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 21623)
Fishinpox, my neighbor fished a CuradoE7 out of Lake Pontchartrain today. When he first told me...I thought it might be yours but it was mounted on an AllStar rod. I walked over to see what the rig looked like and it was unbelievable. The rod had mega rust on the reel seat but everything else looked good. The Curado's pawl and worm gear was coated with rust. Amazingly, the spool still turned so it probably hadn't been submerged very long. He's taking it apart to look at damage and see how much it will cost to restore it.

man that would be sweet if it was mine im over it now and have bought 3 more curados!!! crap i see it as my rig being structure for my kids to fish!!!!! anyways about the stainless steel a couple years ago my buddy hooked a 9ftx 4ft stainless steel resturant prep table while rig fishing he thought it was a catch of a life time pullin that sucker in but it was pretty rusty now it sittis at the camp in grandisle and continues to get worse everyyear

Deadly D 07-07-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 21645)
Ducky, I'm no chemist but I disagree. If the object is a high-grade stainless steel...then maybe not. If it's not a high-grade stainless then the water must be free of dissolved oxygen. Drop a galvanized nail in a metal buck filled with water. The nail and the bucket bottom will rust..."underwater".

Thats why they are going to stop making them at the end of the year. They are using a cheaper grade and its not holding up to exspectatoins thats why they are a little cheaper. you know that saying you get what you paid for

Salty 07-07-2009 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 21652)
I dropped one of mine twice in the saltwater and I never clean my reels .....not one time have I had trouble with any of them!!! Shimano don't make junk reels

I never said Shimano made "junk reels". But, those Curados are not as bullet-proof as you may think. I've seen rust on several of 'em....all in the same place...on the pawl. Now, for the $$$ I do think it's the best buy in a casting reel. They changed the materials to make these lighter than the older models and, obviously, these materials are not as good. My bro-in-law works for 'em and he says the Curado E-Series is an "economy" reel. Now, if only they were as tough as "economy" ribeyes. :spineyes:

Salty 07-07-2009 10:42 PM

W, if someone were to give you a brand new 2009 Chronarch or Calais, would you use it or would you just deny yourself the opportunity to fish with the absolute best baitcasters that money can buy? :confused:

"W" 07-07-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 21656)
I never said Shimano made "junk reels". But, those Curados are not as bullet-proof as you may think. I've seen rust on several of 'em....all in the same place...on the pawl. Now, for the $$$ I do think it's the best buy in a casting reel. They changed the materials to make these lighter than the older models and, obviously, these materials are not as good. My bro-in-law works for 'em and he says the Curado E-Series is an "economy" reel. Now, if only they were as tough as "economy" ribeyes. :spineyes:

That is not RUST.....I will take pics of my 4 reels and I promise they have never been clean since day one!!!! They have been sprayed ,dropped,fished and abused in saltwater!!!! I have never seen any type of rust!!!

LaAngler 07-07-2009 10:46 PM

now we're gettin somewhere......

Salty 07-07-2009 10:54 PM

W, you didn't answer my question. Would you stubbornly not use the Calais because you're afraid of how much more reel it actually is? :eek:

"W" 07-07-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 21667)
W, you didn't answer my question. Would you stubbornly not use the Calais because you're afraid of how much more reel it actually is? :eek:

You buy me one and I will use it.....Curados are the best light tackle reels!!!! Have you heard of anyone complaining about these reels yet???? I have sold over 400 this year and not one person has said anything bad about them!!!! So why spend more money?

Salty 07-07-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 21670)
You buy me one and I will use it.....Curados are the best light tackle reels!!!! Have you heard of anyone complaining about these reels yet???? I have sold over 400 this year and not one person has said anything bad about them!!!! So why spend more money?



Well, with you being the self-proclaimed "best fisherman on Big Lake", I just thought you would use nothing but the best. I'll use a Calais with Power Pro on a 7 1/2' Cenderi and cast over my shoulder farther than you can cast forward with a Curado. Same bait. :eek:

BTW, a Curado is not the "best light tackle reels". If that were true, a Calais wouldn't have twice as many bearings and cost 2 1/2 times as much.

"W" 07-07-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 21675)
Well, with you being the self-proclaimed "best fisherman on Big Lake", I just thought you would use nothing but the best. I'll use a Calais with Power Pro on a 7 1/2' Cenderi and cast over my shoulder farther than you can cast forward with a Curado. Same bait. :eek:

BTW, a Curado is not the "best light tackle reels". If that were true, a Calais wouldn't have twice as many bearings and cost 2 1/2 times as much.


Lets look at Facts from fisherman......I fish 99xs more than you a year and cast half million times!!!! I also talk with many guys who are on the water 100 plus days a year....I'm not talking any series just reel names here

This is what I heard over the past 5 years

Calcutta... Dont last or hold up in salty conditions
Core.....Dont waist the money if your fishing saltwater ...Needs lots of cleaning
Citica (sp)....Junk in Saltwater....Monster in Fresh

Cruado...Stands alone!!! all purpose reel hold up great in saltwater coditions!!!

Gerald 07-07-2009 11:23 PM

I was out fishing with someone last month that had a fairly new looking Calais. I tried it for several cast......it cast about the same as my 6 year old 200BSF curado but not nearly as smooth reeling as my reel.

Salty 07-07-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 21677)
I was out fishing with someone last month that had a fairly new looking Calais. I tried it for several cast......it cast about the same as my 6 year old 200BSF curado but not nearly as smooth reeling as my reel.


:help: Mr. Gerald, I will outcast your "200BSF". :D Shimano says that their absolute best reel for saltwater applications is a Chronarch 100D. That is, if you are wading. From a boat, Calais is the best application. Now, at these prices, I understand that they are not for everyone and I am not trying to sell 'em. I'm just letting W know that a Curado, while it is a great buy in a reel, it is nowhere near the best. Totally different guts in these reels.

"W" 07-07-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 21678)
:help: Mr. Gerald, I will outcast your "200BSF". :D Shimano says that their absolute best reel for saltwater applications is a Chronarch 100D. That is, if you are wading. From a boat, Calais is the best application. Now, at these prices, I understand that they are not for everyone and I am not trying to sell 'em. I'm just letting W know that a Curado, while it is a great buy in a reel, it is nowhere near the best. Totally different guts in these reels.


Salty pack your bags and bring them reels with all that dust on em and lets have a sand eel toss with 1/80z 1/2oz and 1/2oz.....My Curado against and bait caster you want!!! Bring IT

Salty 07-07-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 21682)
Salty pack your bags and bring them reels with all that dust on em and lets have a sand eel toss with 1/80z 1/2oz and 1/2oz.....My Curado against and bait caster you want!!! Bring IT

How about a bare hook? No bait...no nothin' :eek:

Reel Bender 07-08-2009 09:06 AM

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jpeff31787 07-08-2009 03:07 PM

My favorite reel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 21670)
You buy me one and I will use it.....Curados are the best light tackle reels!!!! Have you heard of anyone complaining about these reels yet???? I have sold over 400 this year and not one person has said anything bad about them!!!! So why spend more money?


where do you sell them at? Can I get a discount lol

LaAngler 07-08-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 21676)
Calcutta... Dont last or hold up in salty conditions


do you have any calcutta's?

dbarham 07-08-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 21644)
I was reading a post on a shimano site that said they was going to stop making the e series because of corrosion problems with them:cry::cry:

good! I like the old ones mo bettah!:grinpimp:

Reel Bender 07-08-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeff31787 (Post 21752)
where do you sell them at? Can I get a discount lol

That's what I was thinking, Maybe a Saltycajun Discount!

"W" 07-08-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeff31787 (Post 21752)
where do you sell them at? Can I get a discount lol


Look in the Classifieds I have a add......

Bruce my dad uses the Calcuttas and has had to send a few of them off..... He told me that I should of put him on the Curados years ago.....That's all he uses NOW

LaAngler 07-08-2009 04:38 PM

I honestly believe the calcutta TE is a better reel, maybe not for trout fishing b/c of the weight, but for saltwater fishing in general.

"W" 07-08-2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 21762)
I honestly believe the calcutta TE is a better reel, maybe not for trout fishing b/c of the weight, but for saltwater fishing in general.

My dad has the Calcutta 50mgs..(I think that's right)...There a smooth casting reel but he has had trouble with fishing them in saltwater

LaAngler 07-08-2009 04:47 PM

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i like the conquest..

Big Lake Blondie 07-08-2009 04:50 PM

I have to disagree about the Citica being trash in saltwater...We have both Citica's and Curado's and they both hold up well in the salt...Have been fishing them in Big Lake for over 5 years now and they have both been swimming and still going strong with proper cleaning and maintenance...

"W" 07-08-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Lake Blondie (Post 21766)
I have to disagree about the Citica being trash in saltwater...We have both Citica's and Curado's and they both hold up well in the salt...Have been fishing them in Big Lake for over 5 years now and they have both been swimming and still going strong with proper cleaning and maintenance...


BLB....Too me a good reel is one with no maintenance....I never clean my reels....I dropped one in today taking a trout off....I just let them ride....If you have to clean a reel then its not worth using in my book!!! Add a little oil every now and then and that's it.....I have some old green Curados that have never been worked on and still cast like new......I had to have some gears in the 100D's changed out before due to wear but nothing major...A good reel should be able to handle abuse ,abuse , and more abuse;)

Big Lake Blondie 07-08-2009 05:15 PM

I don't think there is such a thing as a reel that requires absolutely no maintenance...If you do no maintenance at all, it will only last you a few years, then you have to replace it...We oil and lube ours at least once a year(sometimes more if someone decides to go swimming:D) to ensure maximum performance and a long life on the reel...Some people don't like to mess with their reels; good for them...we just prefer to take extra care to ensure the best fishing we can...:spineyes:

LaAngler 07-08-2009 05:21 PM

so the curado is better than the core?

"W" 07-08-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 21776)
so the curado is better than the core?


From what I have been told in saltwater YES!!!! I have been told the Cores need tender loven care in saltwater.....Maybe a good reel but who has time to clean reels.....I need my reels to work day in day out!!!

Capt. Ryan Rachunek 07-08-2009 05:27 PM

So Reddy, the definition of a good reel is one you can abuse and neglect and it will still work??? It not like the reel can be smooth after the abuse and lack of cleaning.... There is a big difference between a smooth reel and one that "works"..... Out of the box, a Curado doesn't hold a candle to a CORE....

Reel Bender 07-08-2009 05:29 PM

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I sense another challenge on the Horizon!!!

"W" 07-08-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Ryan Rachunek (Post 21782)
So Reddy, the definition of a good reel is one you can abuse and neglect and it will still work??? It not like the reel can be smooth after the abuse and lack of cleaning.... There is a big difference between a smooth reel and one that "works"..... Out of the box, a Curado doesn't hold a candle to a CORE....


Out the box...Core is better than a Curado....But use them the same about of time with out cleaning and see which one holds up better...... I have only used a Core once..Nice reel but I was talked out of buying one by the Shimano dealer I use.....He said it was not a saltwater friendly as the Curado!!! I have also heard that from other guys......

Reel Bender 07-08-2009 05:42 PM

I would never have a core......................................













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Hackberry Hustler 07-08-2009 05:42 PM

w...like BLB said we have citicas and curados in our arsenal. The Citicas are awesome, but you are right they are not better than the curados. I love my curados, but if you have taken apart and cleaned as many as i have and looked inside, just not on the surface, they all are subject to corrosion from abuse in saltwater. All of the low profile shimanos have the same style drive gear that is made of brass and prolonged use in saltwater they will show signs of corrsion, especially if never cleaned. I do have a citica that has been completely submurged three times now, and by properly tearing it down and cleaning it still works like new....:):)

slick143 07-08-2009 05:49 PM

:work:lets get on!!!!!!!!!:work::work::work:

"W" 07-08-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackberry Hustler (Post 21789)
w...like BLB said we have citicas and curados in our arsenal. The Citicas are awesome, but you are right they are not better than the curados. I love my curados, but if you have taken apart and cleaned as many as i have and looked inside, just not on the surface, they all are subject to corrosion from abuse in saltwater. All of the low profile shimanos have the same style drive gear that is made of brass and prolonged use in saltwater they will show signs of corrsion, especially if never cleaned. I do have a citica that has been completely submurged three times now, and by properly tearing it down and cleaning it still works like new....:):)


I use to clean them years ago but I just don't find that I need too...... Just add some Shimano oil and let ER Rip!!!!..... I would hate to see what the inside of my reels really look like!!!!! They might get a cleaning Next year!!(Maybe)

all star rod 07-08-2009 06:34 PM

I have to agree with W on this one. I have 3 Curado reels and I know a few people that have the 2 other high $ reels (Calais & Chronarch). They may be a little bit smoother but they do not cast any further. For the price, I will stick with the Curado reels. Also, I have a few Citica reels and I only fish in saltwater and I have had zero trouble with them. After I use them I just wash them off with water from a garden hose. My Curados & Citicas have zero rust on them. I probably fish 50-75 times a year.

Salty 07-08-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 21768)
BLB....Too me a good reel is one with no maintenance....I never clean my reels....I dropped one in today taking a trout off....I just let them ride....If you have to clean a reel then its not worth using in my book!!! Add a little oil every now and then and that's it.....I have some old green Curados that have never been worked on and still cast like new......I had to have some gears in the 100D's changed out before due to wear but nothing major...A good reel should be able to handle abuse ,abuse , and more abuse;)


I'll just bet that your reels have never had any problems with the drag...... :*****: :*****: :*****: :*****:

Deadly D 07-08-2009 06:38 PM

Alright guys Im about ready to get my zebcos out and lets get it on. 202 and the famous 33:*****::*****::*****::*****:

Salty 07-08-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 21804)
I have to agree with W on this one. I have 3 Curado reels and I know a few people that have the 2 other high $ reels (Calais & Chronarch). They may be a little bit smoother but they do not cast any further. For the price, I will stick with the Curado reels. Also, I have a few Citica reels and I only fish in saltwater and I have had zero trouble with them. After I use them I just wash them off with water from a garden hose. My Curados & Citicas have zero rust on them. I probably fish 50-75 times a year.


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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 21684)
How about a bare hook? No bait...no nothin' :eek:


ASR, how far can you cast a bare hook with a Curado? You really disappoint me. You agree with an idiot that knows nothing about a reel if he thinks it should never need cleaning. :cry:

"W" 07-08-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 21805)
I'll just bet that your reels have never had any problems with the drag...... :*****: :*****: :*****: :*****:


Drag this!!!!! Just look at that Bull Minnow in his mouth!!!!!

Salty 07-08-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 21811)
Drag this!!!!! Just look at that Bull Minnow in his mouth!!!!!


Yep, that's the "fish" that made the REDDY GARFISH COMBO so famous. Damn...you sure look proud. :eek:


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