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longsidelandry 05-18-2011 12:16 PM

Louisiana House Votes to Mandate Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients
 
http://www.fox8live.com/news/local/s...MLIjHk1og.cspx

La. House votes to mandate drug tests for welfare

Last Update: 5/17 6:37 pm

(Rob Masson, FOX 8 News)
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) - The Louisiana House has voted to approve a Metairie lawmaker's bill to require drug testing of welfare recipients who get cash benefits.

Republican John LaBruzzo says the bill would help people to get jobs, since many employers require drug tests.

The bill received the support of 65 lawmakers, over half of the chamber. The bill also gained co-authors, bringing the total to six, but not before prompting a heated debate.

Several lawmakers said a similar bill passed in Michigan was overturned by the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which does not control courts in Louisiana.

Others argued the bill unfairly assumed that people receiving welfare take drugs. Rep. Regina Barrow, D-Baton Rouge, said former Metairie Rep. and longtime Klu Klux Klan leader David Duke introduced a similar bill.

(Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

LaAngler 05-18-2011 12:17 PM

cut the welfare all together, geez

longsidelandry 05-18-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 254971)
cut the welfare all together, geez

Yep, that would be the best thing that could happen but this would definitely be a step in the right direction.

jpeff31787 05-18-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by longsidelandry (Post 254973)
Yep, that would be the best thing that could happen but this would definitely be a step in the right direction.


you really think this will go through?

I seriously doubt it! We'd never get that lucky..

Lake Chuck Duck 05-18-2011 12:36 PM

"Others argued the bill unfairly assumed that people receiving welfare take drugs. "

If they arent on crack then they shouldnt have anything to worry about right? This is great news!

Dink 05-18-2011 12:40 PM

This is obviously race motivated......

That's the opening line in the paper tomorrow, watch

joshdomingue 05-18-2011 12:41 PM

heck yea ......please lert this make it through the system!!!!!

cmdrost 05-18-2011 01:16 PM

I agree with this move 110%

LaAngler 05-18-2011 01:18 PM

spend more tax money to police grown adults, why are we worried what they are putting in their bodies?

ShadMan 05-18-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 255006)
why are we worried what they are putting in their bodies?

Because you're paying for what they put in their bodies. ;)

LaAngler 05-18-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadMan (Post 255010)
Because you're paying for what they put in their bodies. ;)

While I certainly do understand that logic, how many state .gov jobs/offices will need to be added??? How can we be sure these welfare leaches aren't smart enough to cheat a simple UA?? They've learned how to work the system for generations now, what stops it now??

A lot of the women start to reproduce & secure a section 8 rental, food stamps, etc.
Then the "ol man" (crack/weed user/dealer) moves in, the profits of the sales fund the entire households habit.

I honestly believe we underestimate the intelligence of a good portion of the recipients. Humans overcome adversity very well and are extremely cunning. If someone is smart enough to figure a way to get free rent/food/cell/tax returns, plus manage a 2006 Lincoln Navigator sitting on "swangas" :D, they can probably beat a drug test every time. They could also make a living without the freebies when push comes to shove.

cmdrost 05-18-2011 01:33 PM

But I guess you're ok to pay taxes for these people to receive free money and to buy whatever they want, party however they want, and have no responsibilities??

I have no problem with welfare system as it is intended. But I have a HUGE problem with the people that expoit/mis-use the system.

ETA - I want SULPHITE to run welfare program!!!

southern151 05-18-2011 01:43 PM

It will never pass. It will somehow violate their civil rights. Here's the logic they will use and it will be effective...If the people trying to pass this law don't have to take a drug test, why should we(welfare recipients)? I agree with the logic in the aspect of politicians should be drug tested too! If we did that, their would be a lot of them off the "system" as well.

As far as I am concerned, a politician is nothing more than a welfare recipient in a 3 piece suit!

SULPHITE 05-18-2011 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cmdrost (Post 255020)
ETA - I want SULPHITE to run welfare program!!!


Drop da hamma on 'em!! :work:

flounder_smacker 05-18-2011 02:32 PM

I agree with taking welfare completely out. You don't work you don't eat. Only the strong survive. Keeping the weak around only hurts a species. Call it uncivilized but that's how it used to be.

longsidelandry 05-18-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 255023)
It will never pass. It will somehow violate their civil rights. Here's the logic they will use and it will be effective...If the people trying to pass this law don't have to take a drug test, why should we(welfare recipients)? I agree with the logic in the aspect of politicians should be drug tested too! If we did that, their would be a lot of them off the "system" as well.

As far as I am concerned, a politician is nothing more than a welfare recipient in a 3 piece suit!

Here's some logic for them. If I gotta take a drug test numerous times a year to barely make a living and pay 1/3 of my income to taxes which pays their way through life, they should have to pass a drug test to get the "right" to free money.
It's pretty sad that I can't afford a new truck but they can afford Escalades and Navigators on ugly *** expensive rims and tv's in the headrests. :pissed: It's very simple, if you need government assistance no problem but if you can afford the finer things in life like $50,000 vehicles you need to get your *** to work and quit being a bum.

southern151 05-18-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longsidelandry (Post 255054)
Here's some logic for them. If I gotta take a drug test numerous times a year to barely make a living and pay 1/3 of my income to taxes which pays their way through life, they should have to pass a drug test to get the "right" to free money.
It's pretty sad that I can't afford a new truck but they can afford Escalades and Navigators on ugly *** expensive rims and tv's in the headrests. :pissed: It's very simple, if you need government assistance no problem but if you can afford the finer things in life like $50,000 vehicles you need to get your *** to work and quit being a bum.

Ross, I agree completely! I've been on jobs where I've had to take 5 drug tests in 6 weeks!! It is infuriating to say the least! On top of those drug tests, I was having to pay near $1300/wk to their BS! It makes me sick and I'd love for them to reform the welfare system but drug tests are just the beginning!...

They should axe the use of these cards at gas stations and on "cold drinks", candy bars, $.99 bags of chips, boiled crawfish, crab legs and a number of other "goods" that those who work only can afford once in a great while. They should set it up more like the WIC program, that is widely abused too! At least that way, they only get to get certain, neccessity items! They should also do like the unemployment division, where they have to go out and seek employment. Do most of these folks actually look for a job in a serious manner?...No but, at least it gets em off the dang couch!

Lake Chuck Duck 05-18-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 255064)
Ross, I agree completely! I've been on jobs where I've had to take 5 drug tests in 6 weeks!! It is infuriating to say the least! On top of those drug tests, I was having to pay near $1300/wk to their BS! It makes me sick and I'd love for them to reform the welfare system but drug tests are just the beginning!...

They should axe the use of these cards at gas stations and on "cold drinks", candy bars, $.99 bags of chips, boiled crawfish, crab legs and a number of other "goods" that those who work only can afford once in a great while. They should set it up more like the WIC program, that is widely abused too! At least that way, they only get to get certain, neccessity items! They should also do like the unemployment division, where they have to go out and seek employment. Do most of these folks actually look for a job in a serious manner?...No but, at least it gets em off the dang couch!

Agreed! Assistance should be given for 3 months, pending a drug test, and if at the end of the 3 months you dont have a job....TOUGH!
If we could put the welfare recipients to work, we could stop hiring so many illegal immigrants.

jpeff31787 05-18-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 255064)
Ross, I agree completely! I've been on jobs where I've had to take 5 drug tests in 6 weeks!! It is infuriating to say the least! On top of those drug tests, I was having to pay near $1300/wk to their BS! It makes me sick and I'd love for them to reform the welfare system but drug tests are just the beginning!...

They should axe the use of these cards at gas stations and on "cold drinks", candy bars, $.99 bags of chips, boiled crawfish, crab legs and a number of other "goods" that those who work only can afford once in a great while. They should set it up more like the WIC program, that is widely abused too! At least that way, they only get to get certain, neccessity items! They should also do like the unemployment division, where they have to go out and seek employment. Do most of these folks actually look for a job in a serious manner?...No but, at least it gets em off the dang couch!


You are right, they should AT LEAST set it up to something similar as that. My g/f used to work at super one, and she'd have customers with $1700/month food stamp cards and she'd watch them drive out in a mercedes.

I don't think i could buy 1700 dollars worth of food a month if i tried. I definitely couldn't eat it all.

Its a ****ed up program for sure. My g/f also said that, "food stamp recepients" would buy steaks for their dogs, instead of dog food, because you can't buy dog food with FS cards. I wish I could remember half the stories she'd tell me, but I know every last one of y'alls jaws would hit the floor.

Some ppl would come in with 2 basket fulls of groceries and then only have $50 on their card, and when she'd tell them they couldn't get everything, they'd look at her with a question mark on their face like "why not?!"

Just plain dummies......:pissed:

jpeff31787 05-18-2011 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 255072)
Agreed! Assistance should be given for 3 months, pending a drug test, and if at the end of the 3 months you dont have a job....TOUGH!
If we could put the welfare recipients to work, we could stop hiring so many illegal immigrants.


sad thing is I think I'd rather work with them, even if they don't speak my language.. At least they GET to work!

Lake Chuck Duck 05-18-2011 03:04 PM

Once I sat behind a lady (in the 15 items or less line) while they scanned her basket full of stuff twice to find the one thing that the FS card wouldnt buy.

jpeff31787 05-18-2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 255077)
Once I sat behind a lady (in the 15 items or less line) while they scanned her basket full of stuff twice to find the one thing that the FS card wouldnt buy.


which was probably dog food, so she went back and bought some Filets from the fresh meat market :pissed::pissed:

longsidelandry 05-18-2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 255064)
Ross, I agree completely! I've been on jobs where I've had to take 5 drug tests in 6 weeks!! It is infuriating to say the least! On top of those drug tests, I was having to pay near $1300/wk to their BS! It makes me sick and I'd love for them to reform the welfare system but drug tests are just the beginning!...

They should axe the use of these cards at gas stations and on "cold drinks", candy bars, $.99 bags of chips, boiled crawfish, crab legs and a number of other "goods" that those who work only can afford once in a great while. They should set it up more like the WIC program, that is widely abused too! At least that way, they only get to get certain, neccessity items! They should also do like the unemployment division, where they have to go out and seek employment. Do most of these folks actually look for a job in a serious manner?...No but, at least it gets em off the dang couch!

I know you do, wasn't taking a shot at you or anything. This stuff just really pisses me off.
It should definitely be set up like the WIC where they are only allowed certain things and it's not the more expensive items but it's the cheap stuff.

jpeff31787 05-18-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longsidelandry (Post 255080)
I know you do, wasn't taking a shot at you or anything. This stuff just really pisses me off.
It should definitely be set up like the WIC where they are only allowed certain things and it's not the more expensive items but it's the cheap stuff.


and you can only buy so much of that product per month.

DUCKGOGETTER 05-18-2011 03:13 PM

I agree 100% if i got to take a drug test to get a job to support my family. They should have to take a drug test for welfare or get off there lazy rumps and get a job.

jpeff31787 05-18-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 255090)
I agree 100% if i got to take a drug test to get a job to support my family. They should have to take a drug test for welfare or get off there lazy rumps and get a job.


AMEN!

DUCKGOGETTER 05-18-2011 03:35 PM

Don't even get me started on this! Like buying crawfish with food stamps that is a luxury not a necessity. I work 12 hour days and sometimes longer to support my family. Yeah we have some nice stuff, but me and my wife work hard for what we have. We wait until the price of crawfish goes down to get them unless we have some extra money, and these waste of sperm go get them on a food stamp card. Like i said don't get me started i can go on about this all day.

LaAngler 05-18-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpeff31787 (Post 255073)
I wish I could remember half the stories she'd tell me, but I know every last one of y'alls jaws would hit the floor.

my last word on this

I'm not familiar with the abuse that goes on in that department...but

I have seen first hand the abuse the happens with the subsidized housing. Imagine having a 3 bedroom house for 28 dollars per month for you and your 4 kids. Then, move 2 boyfriends in and begin complaining about paying the rent. Force the marshalls office to evict you over it, then maybe set fire to the place for revenge. These people will stop paying the utility bills until they're cut off, then start using the restroom on an old mattress in the bedroom b/c the toilet wont flush anymore. (when it gets this bad usually their mainlining crack or something similar) (obviously this is the far opposite of the "smarter" ones i mentioned earlier)

yah, a drug test should correct the mentality :smokin:

Raymond 05-18-2011 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 255107)
my last word on this

I'm not familiar with the abuse that goes on in that department...but

I have seen first hand the abuse the happens with the subsidized housing. Imagine having a 3 bedroom house for 28 dollars per month for you and your 4 kids. Then, move 2 boyfriends in and begin complaining about paying the rent. Force the marshalls office to evict you over it, then maybe set fire to the place for revenge. These people will stop paying the utility bills until they're cut off, then start using the restroom on an old mattress in the bedroom b/c the toilet wont flush anymore. (when it gets this bad usually their mainlining crack or something similar) (obviously this is the far opposite of the "smarter" ones i mentioned earlier)

yah, a drug test should correct the mentality :smokin:

Shouldn't this be Hairowin?:*****:

Ray 05-18-2011 04:29 PM

I worked at a pogy plant for a few months after being out of work. If you need
money, you can find a job.
If'n I drawed gov'ment money, it would be cause I was handicapped.
However, I do have long term disibility insurance to cover me for that right now.
I'd be ashamed to draw a check and be physically able to work, but not take a
job that was open.

ShadMan 05-18-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 255114)
Shouldn't this be Hairowin?:*****:

Or heroin, maybe? :)

Montauk17 05-18-2011 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longsidelandry (Post 255054)
Here's some logic for them. If I gotta take a drug test numerous times a year to barely make a living and pay 1/3 of my income to taxes which pays their way through life, they should have to pass a drug test to get the "right" to free money.
It's pretty sad that I can't afford a new truck but they can afford Escalades and Navigators on ugly *** expensive rims and tv's in the headrests. :pissed: It's very simple, if you need government assistance no problem but if you can afford the finer things in life like $50,000 vehicles you need to get your *** to work and quit being a bum.

Amen brother! :pissed: I almost lost it the other night. Went to walmart for the first time in a long time. Had a lady in front of me with a basket FULL of steaks and other expensive meat. Payed for it with food stamps and walked to her new escalade. Funny thing is the last time I went to wal mart I saw the exact same thing....might have even been the same lady. :pissed:

Big Flounder 05-18-2011 05:28 PM

Not only do I have to take drug tests often but now we even have to take supervised drug tests cause so many people cheat. Thats what they need. Supervised!!!! Dr. Lee at Prime Medical in Brusly has no problem staring at your bird while you pee in the cup.

tumbleweed 05-18-2011 07:54 PM

Instead of drug tests I would be more in favor of forced sterilization for government subsidized bums, nor forever, just as long as they are on welfare. I could care less about the drugs, let em take the drugs, sooner or later they will kill themselves or be killed. If they are allowed to reproduce the cycle continues.

I would also cut out corporate welfare which is just as rampant as the abuse of the food stamps. Entitlement is not just for poor people.

southern151 05-18-2011 08:20 PM

Longside, me and you are good as long as the sun rises in the east! I know it wasn't a shot at me. The "poor" really need to be evaluated! By my biz expenses last year, I'm as poor, if not worse off, than any of them! Still, my knees won't touch the ground for a handout like w looking for a new sheep! Lol

booyagasha 05-18-2011 08:27 PM

http://consumerist.com/2011/05/lotte...od-stamps.html
A Michigan man isn't letting something a lottery windfall stop him from using government assistance to buy food.

In an interview with WNEM Saginaw, the man says his $2 million winnings from last year didn't go as far as he would have liked. He said taxes swallowed up more than half the money, and he has no apologies for using his government-provided electronic card to buy food, saying "If you're going to ... try to make me feel bad, you aren't going to do it."

The man says he has permission from the Department of Human Services to continue using the card. Neighbors have spotted him driving an Audi convertible.

Man Still On Food Stamps Despite Winning $2M [WNEM Saginaw]

Ducktrickster 05-18-2011 09:44 PM

Don't get too excited about the drug testing. A random drug test to only the small percentage that recieve cash from the state. Even if they test positive, the only lose the cash benefit if the refuse government funded rehab. It will not affect any other benefits. Smoke and mirrors.

longsidelandry 05-18-2011 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 255216)
Longside, me and you are good as long as the sun rises in the east! I know it wasn't a shot at me. The "poor" really need to be evaluated! By my biz expenses last year, I'm as poor, if not worse off, than any of them! Still, my knees won't touch the ground for a handout like w looking for a new sheep! Lol

:*****::*****::rotfl::cry::*****:

I know how you feel man. I got a wife in college, a 3 month old baby, 2 car notes and just built a house :cry: but it'll be a cold day in hell before I walk around with my hand out asking for some help like these despicable excuses for humans!


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