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evidrine 07-13-2011 01:37 PM

Anyone want to do me a favor?
 
Im trying to find out if I can get another butt pad for an old Revelation auto 12 shotgun. The one on it is starting to dry out and crack. Its made by Pachmayr. They have a web site but I cant get to it due to this dang web block at work because it has to do with "firearms"! Its driving me nuts! Can anyone see if the have one pre-fit for this gun still? Maybe even a customer service number? It would be well appreciated! :rolleyes:

CajunSaint 07-13-2011 01:45 PM

I'll check 4 ya

wtretrievers 07-13-2011 01:47 PM

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Here ya go

evidrine 07-13-2011 01:47 PM

Awesome! Thanks.

Kenner18 07-13-2011 01:47 PM

dont see one for that gun
Consumer & Dealer Sales and Service
800-225-9626
800-423-9704
860-632-2020

evidrine 07-13-2011 01:48 PM

Appreciate all the help guys. I will give them a call. Thanks!

wtretrievers 07-13-2011 01:54 PM

If you cant find a exact match A good gun smith can order one close & do a little trimming & fitting & make it look nice.

I take all the recoil pads (rubber) off every gun I own, if I shoulder gun quickly butt won't slide, the rubber has a
tendency to grab shirt, I get my gun smith to make a hard plastic butt plate

evidrine 07-13-2011 02:05 PM

I have one from an old NE single shot that is like that and close to the right size. I've been debating if I want to try to make that one fit or not.

Raymond 07-13-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 285747)
If you cant find a exact match A good gun smith can order one close & do a little trimming & fitting & make it look nice.

I take all the recoil pads (rubber) off every gun I own, if I shoulder gun quickly butt won't slide, the rubber has a
tendency to grab shirt, I get my gun smith to make a hard plastic butt plate

Great idea Jeff, please post a pic of a shotgun butt plate so I will have something to go by when explaining to a local gunsmith.

Thanks

eman 07-13-2011 02:20 PM

Just shoot an old Stevens Savage 12 gauge twice barrel like me .
32" barrels. gun is so heavy you dont need a butt pad.
Bare wood works.

evidrine 07-13-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 285765)
Just shoot an old Stevens Savage 12 gauge twice barrel like me .
32" barrels. gun is so heavy you dont need a butt pad.
Bare wood works.

HAHA! My grandpa had one like that. Your not kidding about the weight. It feels like an iron fence post!

evidrine 07-13-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 285761)
Great idea Jeff, please post a pic of a shotgun butt plate so I will have something to go by when explaining to a local gunsmith.

Thanks

Here it is. Measures 5" long, 1 3/4" (widest point) ...all bottom measurements.

evidrine 07-13-2011 02:32 PM

I'm re-finnishing the stock on it as well. Just tryin to make it look nice again. Sweet shooting gun though. Might use it for dove season this year. I have an old Fox s/s I might re-finnish also.

wtretrievers 07-13-2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 285761)
Great idea Jeff, please post a pic of a shotgun butt plate so I will have something to go by when explaining to a local gunsmith.

Thanks

It's just the thin (1/4") hard plastic butt plate that's found on most rifles.
Nowadays most newer rifles are going to a solid piece of rubber bout 3/8" thick, don't like that either.
I'll take a picture of one this evening for ya

wtretrievers 07-13-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by evidrine (Post 285777)
I'm re-finnishing the stock on it as well. Just tryin to make it look nice again. Sweet shooting gun though. Might use it for dove season this year. I have an old Fox s/s I might re-finnish also.

Hmmmm......wanna sell that Fox???? :)

evidrine 07-13-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 285783)
Hmmmm......wanna sell that Fox???? :)

Nah, I'm gonna hang on to that one! ;)

One similar to this.......

wtretrievers 07-13-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by evidrine (Post 285786)
Nah, I'm gonna hang on to that one! ;)

One similar to this.......

Yup......just a hard plastic butt plate, slides, won't catch on shirt or jacket. It will shorten length about 3/4"-1", doesn't bother me tho, I'm 5'8 so most guns I can shorten a little without any problem.

evidrine 07-13-2011 03:02 PM

Yea, length was my only concern. Im around 5'10" so it shouldnt be a problem, but it already felt about right with the other one on it. Plus, this one has a big NEF stamp on the back of it. Doesnt quite go with the gun. It is the closest match I have found so far when it comes to size thugh. E-bay has this one....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

But its slightly bigger. If you think I may be able to cut it down some I might bid on it?

wtretrievers 07-13-2011 03:09 PM

Sure.......start with a belt sander to cut it down then start dropping to a finer grit by hand & finish up with steel wool to polish it back out......

wtretrievers 07-13-2011 03:11 PM

I thought it was hard, its rubber....I don't know

evidrine 07-13-2011 03:12 PM

Yea, I'm not too crazy about the brown anyway.

wtretrievers 07-13-2011 03:20 PM

Take it by a reputable gun smith, he'll help ya out or fix ya up.

evidrine 07-19-2011 04:50 PM

May have found a recoil pad, so thats out of the way. I sanded and re-stained the stock and it came out a very nice color. exactly what I was looking for. Then I sealed it with a high gloss polyurothane. This is was a mistake. I could neary see my dang reflection in the thing. A tad bit way too shiny! I removed all of this and now I have a question. After I re-stain it, again, what should I seal i with. I am tempted to try a semi-gloss polyurothane but want o be certain first. What do you guys think? Will that still be too shiny? I'm not sure if I should try it or not. Is there something else that will work well?

wtretrievers 07-19-2011 05:09 PM

Straight oil finish without the stain looks sweet, had a Browning Citori done that way

Gerald 07-19-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 289600)
Straight oil finish without the stain looks sweet, had a Browning Citori done that way

Maybe try some Tung oil. I have used it several times to finish wood on different things.

wtretrievers 07-19-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 289716)
Maybe try some Tung oil. I have used it several times to finish wood on different things.

That may be what it's was Mr Gerald, I don't remember been about 10-12 years ago, but it came out gorgeous!!!!

I bought the gun at a garage sale & it looked like it had been drug down several miles of gravel rod, took the forearm & stock & sanded & oil finished & took barrel & receiver to gunsmith & had it parkerized, bought the gun for $75 & after it was finished had it appraised for $1100 ;)

evidrine 07-20-2011 08:33 AM

Nice! Do you think I could do that after I re-stain it????

wtretrievers 07-20-2011 08:35 AM

Boiled Linseed oil with about a 1/3 of turpentine is what it was, warm the wood stock & oil by setting in the sun, let dry or soak up polish with OOOO steel wool then repeat several times, the more coats the better plus the look & color will change after each application grain in wood will stand out.

evidrine 07-20-2011 08:37 AM

do you have picture of that gun?

wtretrievers 07-20-2011 08:40 AM

Not with me, I'll have check when I get home. Shoulda never sold that gun :(
Gotta a couple more that need refinishing, may have to get on them.

wtretrievers 07-20-2011 08:57 AM

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Here's a picture of an oil finish, got picture from the net, mine looked real similar. The more defined the grain the better it will look

Gerald 07-20-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 289844)
Boiled Linseed oil with about a 1/3 of turpentine is what it was, warm the wood stock & oil by setting in the sun, let dry or soak up polish with OOOO steel wool then repeat several times, the more coats the better plus the look & color will change after each application grain in wood will stand out.

If I remember correctly...... Linseed oil finish is just a little lighter than Tung oil.

If you use either of these oils...........in a few years you may want to give the gun stock a recoating to make it look like new again.

evidrine 07-20-2011 12:26 PM

I saw something online called tru-oil. It is supposed to work well, not sure where to get it around here though. I want something I wont have to order and wait for. Where can I get the stuff you guys mentioned locally?

wtretrievers 07-20-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by evidrine (Post 289961)
I saw something online called tru-oil. It is supposed to work well, not sure where to get it around here though. I want something I wont have to order and wait for. Where can I get the stuff you guys mentioned locally?

That tru-oil is made by Birchwood Casey, cheap stuff & looks cheap, boiled linseed oil or tung oil can be bought at any home depot, lowes are hardware

wtretrievers 07-20-2011 01:11 PM

Dang it!!! You got me fired up to do another one or 2!!!! :)

wtretrievers 07-20-2011 01:13 PM

Btw....get turpentine also helps thin it & helps soaks into the wood

Gerald 07-20-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 289985)
Btw....get turpentine also helps thin it & helps soaks into the wood

Never tried doing that.

I just wipe it on with a rag to give it a good coating. Let it dry good and give it a light scrubbing with some very fine steel wool. Then recoat and steel wool lightly again. Finished.

Wear plastic glove....that will keep your hands cleaner.

evidrine 07-24-2011 05:59 PM

Well, I read all the reviews about the different oils to use and most people say its better not to use with an oil based stain. So, I went with the clear satin polyurethane. It came out pretty good, I am deff satisfied. I brougt out the color depth in the stain with just mild enough shine and all the protection of a polyurethan. The recoil pad didnt fit as well as I thought it would though. I think I can make it work with a little effort.

Ray 07-24-2011 09:47 PM

Them Revelations were sold at Western Auto when I was a kid.
That was my first pump shotgun. Revelation .410 pump.
My dad had to get the stock shortened cause of my age.
I still got that gun.

evidrine 07-25-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by corkyfatboy (Post 292830)
How about a pic of the finshed product? Gotta show off all that hard work!

Yea, I guess I will have to post one!

Took a lot of research to get any info on these things. Western Auto sold different guns at the time made by popular manufacurers, just under a different name. Some include Mossberge, Savage, Marlin etc. The most poplular Revelation is the pump action modeled after the Mossberge 500. Mine is actually an Italian import modeled after the Franchi Al48. Not too many semi-auto revelations out there anymore.

Ray 07-25-2011 12:02 PM

My dad bought mine in 1970.

evidrine 07-26-2011 08:10 AM

It was hard to get a good picture. The flash kept makeing a glare off the stock and it wasnt nay better without it. Anyway, here she is...


evidrine 07-26-2011 08:10 AM

Well, that didnt work....

SaltERedneck 07-26-2011 08:11 AM

pics or it didnt happen lol

evidrine 07-26-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by evidrine (Post 293520)
It was hard to get a good picture. The flash kept makeing a glare off the stock and it wasnt nay better without it. Anyway, here she is...

lets try again....

SaltERedneck 07-26-2011 08:13 AM

there it is!

wtretrievers 07-26-2011 08:13 AM

Nice....came out good!


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