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evidrine 09-28-2011 12:47 PM

Military surplus rifle
 
I picked up a Mosin Nagant 91/30 quite a few years ago. Bought it mainly because of its history, and basically I just like old guns. For $70 bucks I couldnt go wrong. I have shot it a few times and put it away. I am not one to buy somthing and just let is sit around forever. So I have descided that this could make me a nice varmint rifle with a little work. The ballistics fall somewhere in between a 30.06 and .308. I have slowly modified it a little at a time over the past couple years. I have put a monte carlo sythetic stock on it, bent the bolt handle, installed an over the reciever scope rail, added a couple new safety features, and revently done a trigger job. I have a scope but still need to buy scope rings. Anyone else own one of these? What do you think about it used as a varmint rifle. Once I add a bi-pod I think it will be alright. Will have to remember to take pictures.

Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 12:53 PM

I have one in the m44 shoots 7.62x54r. Its shorter than the one you have. Ive been shooting mine alot recently and all I can is that thing is hell when you pull the trigger. Not something you want to shoot more then a few times. And loud too. Every time I shoot everyone at the range turns to see if I am shooting a cannon. I have thought about modifying it to deer hunt but just not sure I want to spend the money to modify a $100 dollar gun. Mine is a 1946 model with original wood stock and built on swing out bayonet.

weedeater 09-28-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 328919)
I have one in the m44 shoots 7.62x54r. Its shorter than the one you have. Ive been shooting mine alot recently and all I can is that thing is hell when you pull the trigger. Not something you want to shoot more then a few times. And loud too. Every time I shoot everyone at the range turns to see if I am shooting a cannon. I have thought about modifying it to deer hunt but just not sure I want to spend the money to modify a $100 dollar gun. Mine is a 1946 model with original wood stock and built on swing out bayonet.

I have the same gun but its be sporterized, which means the stock is more updated and makes it real fun to shoot. Out of the box it will hit a pie plate open site at 100yrds, I want to bring it to TX and shoot a doe to see what damage it will do.

evidrine 09-28-2011 01:03 PM

Yea, I have heard that about the m44. The barrel on mine is like a mile long!!! But, not as bad to shoot. I think so far all I have paid was around $54 bucks for the stock, $23 bucks for the scope mount, and everything else I did myself. Of course the scope itself is always extra with most any rife, and threre was a trigger type safey I paid about $15 bucks for. It makes for a fun project gun I think.

Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 01:03 PM

Yes its very accurate with open sites.

Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 01:04 PM

Did you have to do much adjustment when you switched the wood stock to synthetic?

Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 328926)
I have the same gun but its be sporterized, which means the stock is more updated and makes it real fun to shoot. Out of the box it will hit a pie plate open site at 100yrds, I want to bring it to TX and shoot a doe to see what damage it will do.

Its a pretty big nasty round. I'm sure it will do alot of damage. I sure would have hated to shoot/get shot by it in WWII

evidrine 09-28-2011 01:08 PM

I didnt have to modify anything with the new stock. Just slipped right in.

weedeater 09-28-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 328934)
Its a pretty big nasty round. I'm sure it will do alot of damage. I sure would have hated to shoot/get shot by it in WWII

Yea it would suck to be shot with that thing, I have a buddy that sells guns and he says that if you shoot the cheap surplus ammo in them in the dark it will blow fire like never seen

weedeater 09-28-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by evidrine (Post 328938)
I didnt have to modify anything with the new stock. Just slipped right in.

where did you order the stock, mine is cracked from recoil and I would not mind changin it

Jordan 09-28-2011 01:25 PM

i have an old stock that went under during the hurricanes... I sanded and painted it black if anyone wants it..... come get it.

evidrine 09-28-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 328943)
where did you order the stock, mine is cracked from recoil and I would not mind changin it

I bought mine off of ebay. I think sportsmansguide.com has them as well. You can get the black or the camo stock.

Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 328957)
i have an old stock that went under during the hurricanes... I sanded and painted it black if anyone wants it..... come get it.

Put it with that 25 ammo for me. An I get it when I see ya

Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by evidrine (Post 328975)
I bought mine off of ebay. I think sportsmansguide.com has them as well. You can get the black or the camo stock.

Ive seen them a few places usually around 70 bucks. Ive been shooting the wolf ammo, all I can find at the gun show. Ive had the shell get stuck a couple times after shooting.

weedeater 09-28-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 328980)
Ive seen them a few places usually around 70 bucks. Ive been shooting the wolf ammo, all I can find at the gun show. Ive had the shell get stuck a couple times after shooting.

Cabelas has Brown Bear or somthin like that and Gander Mountian is supose to have it

evidrine 09-28-2011 02:39 PM

Academy now sells 7.62x54 for 9.99 a box.

calcutta37 09-28-2011 06:03 PM

i want to see some pics..

Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 06:38 PM

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Mine.....

Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 06:42 PM

7.62x54 on left 30-06 on right

Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 06:43 PM

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weedeater 09-28-2011 08:14 PM

7.62x54 sporterized
 
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1fastmerc 09-28-2011 08:17 PM

Where do y'all find these guns?


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weedeater 09-28-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 329199)
Where do y'all find these guns?


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got mine at Gander Mountain $100:eek:

1fastmerc 09-28-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 329200)
got mine at Gander Mountain $100:eek:

I'll give ya $125.99


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weedeater 09-28-2011 08:54 PM

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I'll give ya $125.99


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man they sell them a few times a yr

Matt G 09-28-2011 09:02 PM

I bought an M44 a few years ago and sold it to a buddy. Never should have done it. I just recently bought the 91/30 from Bullets and Bows in Rayne. Once I got it home, I was calling my shots at 100yrds open sights. I think it would be the perfect project gun. I just wish I had the skills to modify mine.... Sure as hell don't have the money! Y'all should read up on the history of the gun with the Red army during the Battle of Stalingead. Some of the best snipers ever were women with this gun.

1fastmerc 09-28-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 329220)
man they sell them a few times a yr

How do you find out when?


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Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 329197)
:rolleyes:

Did you buy yours exactly how it looks now? Mine came from a pawn shop originally then I traded my buddy something for it, but I see them at LC gun show every time. Solid rifles, dont know why they are so cheap.

southern151 09-28-2011 09:24 PM

I've got one that looks a lot like what you guys are posting. There's no manufacturer stamp but it does have "cal. 7.62" on the side. Is that mean its just the normal .308? It doesn't have a bayonet but does have a cleaning rod in the end.

What's you guys thoughts?

Lake Chuck Duck 09-28-2011 09:26 PM

post a pic, lets see it! any other words or markings on it?

southern151 09-28-2011 09:37 PM

It's got serial numbers on the receiver and barrel. Is also written by hand on the upper cover with a 19 written on the other side. On the bolt has the same numbers and what looks like the little bomb stamp.

I'll send some some pics via text and you can post em up if ya want. Can't send straight from phone.

cajun_poboy 09-28-2011 09:56 PM

[QUOTE=1fastmerc;329225]How do you find out when?


budsgunshop.com has them for $109 free shipping. The item number is 411540201. I had mine shipped to the pawn shop on 14 near legion. they did the paperwork and transfer for $20.

eman 09-28-2011 10:07 PM

either BP or bellas runs them for $99 , 4 or 5 times a year. Check the rifling out carfully to make sure they haven't been shot out . Check you tube on how to clean out all the old grease,

Ray 09-28-2011 11:46 PM

I got an old WWII German rifle. 8MM Mauser. It has the Nazi emblems on it with an Eagle on top of the emblem. The stock was broken, so my dad put a sport stock on it.
He got it from the Sheriff's Dept. back in the day, when they sold confiscated guns, instead of destroying them.

weedeater 09-29-2011 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 329231)
Did you buy yours exactly how it looks now? Mine came from a pawn shop originally then I traded my buddy something for it, but I see them at LC gun show every time. Solid rifles, dont know why they are so cheap.

Yea thats how I bought it, had a whole rack like that

weedeater 09-29-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 329237)
I've got one that looks a lot like what you guys are posting. There's no manufacturer stamp but it does have "cal. 7.62" on the side. Is that mean its just the normal .308? It doesn't have a bayonet but does have a cleaning rod in the end.

What's you guys thoughts?

they have diff 7.62 rounds 39, 54,25 and 51 but the 39 and 54 are most popular from what I have seen

weedeater 09-29-2011 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 329225)
How do you find out when?


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I have seen them a few times at GM in Beaumont

Lake Chuck Duck 09-29-2011 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 329306)
I have seen them a few times at GM in Beaumont

So basically they take a rifle like mine, strip it down, change the stock, and sell it in stores?

evidrine 09-29-2011 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 329237)
I've got one that looks a lot like what you guys are posting. There's no manufacturer stamp but it does have "cal. 7.62" on the side. Is that mean its just the normal .308? It doesn't have a bayonet but does have a cleaning rod in the end.

What's you guys thoughts?

There are a couple surplus rifles out ther with the same tipe of bold handle. The Mosin Nagant is the only one I have ever seen with that style Mag. If yours mag matches, thats what it is.

evidrine 09-29-2011 08:14 AM

Man, I was supposed to take a picture last night. I will have to remember to take one and post it.

1fastmerc 09-29-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 329225)
How do you find out when?


budsgunshop.com has them for $109 free shipping. The item number is 411540201. I had mine shipped to the pawn shop on 14 near legion. they did the paperwork and transfer for $20.

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weedeater 09-29-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 329314)
So basically they take a rifle like mine, strip it down, change the stock, and sell it in stores?

pretty much, mine looked like a new gun when I bought it and I don't even think if it had ever been fired

evidrine 09-29-2011 09:52 AM

You can get these things still packed in grease and never used. They are so cheap because they're are so many out there. They were made by the thousands. This is why they are so rough around the edges. Made for military and savilian use. They are very simple and very tough. The only draw backs are a tricky safety to deal with and the straight bolt handle if you want to put a scope, but theyre are modifications available to help that. There is a site online that you can mail your bolt assy to and they will send you another bolt assy with the bolt bent to the style of you choice and the safety ring on the back for $55 bucks shipped! Polished and ready to go! I do not reccomend the scope rail that replaces the rear sight. It will never be sturdy enough to hold tight its position, so dont waste your money there. Also avoid the bolt replacemendt kits. It has a long and hard trigger also, but that can be adjusted yourself.

Is it October Yet 09-29-2011 10:05 AM

I have one brand new never fired I'll sell for $75. Just like Lake Chucks. Has all the accessories as well. Bayonet, sling, ammo bag and 10 bullets.

Lake Chuck Duck 09-29-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Is it October Yet (Post 329398)
I have one brand new never fired I'll sell for $75. Just like Lake Chucks. Has all the accessories as well. Bayonet, sling, ammo bag and 10 bullets.

Where do you live?

evidrine 10-03-2011 08:13 AM

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Is it October Yet 10-03-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 329403)
Where do you live?

I live in Luling which is 25 miles west of New Orleans.


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